# Does anyone here below 23 uses more than 5mg of none? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [January 30, 2008, 11:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-anyone-here-below-23-uses-more-than-5mg-of-none/8759 "2008-01-30T23:02:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![BrazilianGuy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/brazilianguy/32/713_2.png) [@BrazilianGuy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/BrazilianGuy)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2008, 11:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-anyone-here-below-23-uses-more-than-5mg-of-none/8759/1 "2008-01-30T23:02:10Z")
Hey guys, I have been using 1 or 2 sprays of ammo afraid of an OD but I don’t see many results so far. Maybe I have a low -none production… Does anyone here uses more than 5mg with success without bad consequences? ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2008, 11:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-anyone-here-below-23-uses-more-than-5mg-of-none/8759/2 "2008-01-30T23:50:35Z")
I’ve heard some of the younger Asian guys do, and with good success. Everyone is different so experiment until you find your sweetspot. ---
**Author:** ![sigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dec6dc/32.png) [@sigma](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sigma)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2008, 11:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-anyone-here-below-23-uses-more-than-5mg-of-none/8759/3 "2008-01-30T23:52:49Z")
> [@BrazilianGuy](#): > > Hey guys, > > I have been using 1 or 2 sprays of ammo afraid of an OD but I don’t see many results so far. Maybe I have a low -none production… > > Does anyone here uses more than 5mg with success without bad consequences? I’m 24 now, but have been using [pheromones](https://a314.com/) since I was 20. There was a time when I would regularly wear somewhere around 40mcg of androstenone in some of my mixes (4 drops NPA), with good, although volatile results. There are a lot of broad generalizations about how certain pheromones should work for certain people. We are all different in terms of biology, culture, behavior, physical appearance etc etc etc, however…all of these factors (and an endless amount of others) contribute to what kind of reactions we wear with different pheromones. The best way to get an idea about how pheromones work **for you** is to experiment for yourself. Use the generalizations you read about on the forums as a spring board, but don’t be afraid to take the plunge for yourself. Simply put, don’t be afraid to experiment, and yes risk the possibility of having bad reactions. Whether your results are good, bad, or non-existent, you learn something new each time you put your pheromones on. After over four years I’m still learning, and re-learning all the time. ---
**Author:** ![BrazilianGuy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/brazilianguy/32/713_2.png) [@BrazilianGuy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/BrazilianGuy)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2008, 12:33am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-anyone-here-below-23-uses-more-than-5mg-of-none/8759/4 "2008-01-31T00:33:25Z")
Thanks for your replies guys! > [@sigma](#): > > I’m 24 now, but have been using pheromones since I was 20. There was a time when I would regularly wear somewhere around 40mcg of androstenone in some of my mixes (4 drops NPA), with good, although volatile results. What do you mean by good, “although volatile results”? ---
**Author:** ![mothra](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mothra/32/995_2.png) [@mothra](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mothra)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2008, 3:18am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-anyone-here-below-23-uses-more-than-5mg-of-none/8759/5 "2008-01-31T03:18:51Z")
I’m 19 so I’m afraid of using a lot of -none as well, I just ordered some p79 which I guess has a strong sexual/respect side without the potential scariness of -none, you might want to check it out. Personally I have never gone above 1 spray of ammo as far as -none is concerned so I can’t answer “yes” to your question. ---
**Author:** ![LastTry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/b2d939/32.png) [@LastTry](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/LastTry)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2008, 4:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-anyone-here-below-23-uses-more-than-5mg-of-none/8759/6 "2008-01-31T04:19:43Z")
he means the women might really dig him, but all the males want to smash you to pieces. I nearly got bashed up using too much none, lucky some friends just pulled up and saved me or i woulda been really hurt. It can really piss off some alpha mucho mucho guys ---
**Author:** ![sigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dec6dc/32.png) [@sigma](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sigma)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2008, 6:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-anyone-here-below-23-uses-more-than-5mg-of-none/8759/7 "2008-01-31T06:00:23Z")
> [@LastTry](#): > > he means the women might really dig him, but all the males want to smash you to pieces. > > I nearly got bashed up using too much none, lucky some friends just pulled up and saved me or i woulda been really hurt. > > It can really piss off some alpha mucho mucho guys Not necessarily. I never ever really had trouble with pissing guys off while wearing androstenone. I’ve found that the most blatantly successful hits with androstenone come just below an OD level..and that the most blatant sexual hits come coupled with some OD effects. With high doses of androstenone you will come off pretty aggressively, and a bit intimidating…but this also creates an air of sexual tension, and attention. Its really a double edged sword, but thats the nature of androstenone. The aggressive, intimidating vibes that androstenone tend to create are the same vibes that women find attractive. It really helps to buffer the negative effects of androstenone with more inviting pheromones like androstenol..maybe even androsterone. Those extremely high doses of NPA were used mostly in club settings, where alcohol made women respond more positively, and are much less inhibited in acting upon the effects. For a more everyday application I would use somewhere around 20mcg androstenone (NPA). AD’s androstenone products (with exception to Raw Power) are much lower in concentration than others out there that have also proven effective. TUTH and Ammo use highly diffusive carriers, however, likely creating more of an effect at a lower dose. Whatever the case is, 2.5, 5, or even 10mcg of androstenone isn’t as extreme as a lot of people think. I can’t say with any bit of certainty how your body will react to high levels of androstenone, but don’t be afraid to experiment. OD’ing isn’t THAT bad. But on days when you really want good results, use the stuff mindfully.