# does heat/cold effect pheromones?

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-heat-cold-effect-pheromones/36480>\
**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [February 23, 2010, 5:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-heat-cold-effect-pheromones/36480 "2010-02-23T17:07:35Z")\
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**Author:** ![andycrazn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/2bfe46/32.png) [@andycrazn](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/andycrazn)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2010, 5:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-heat-cold-effect-pheromones/36480/1 "2010-02-23T17:07:35Z")

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i just got some [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) in the mail and when i opened them up they were really cold. does that effect the pheromones at all?

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**Author:** ![\_moko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/_/0ea827/32.png) [@\_moko](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/_moko)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2010, 5:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-heat-cold-effect-pheromones/36480/2 "2010-02-23T17:18:59Z")

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> [@andycrazn](#):
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> i just got some pheromones in the mail and when i opened them up they were really cold. does that effect the pheromones at all?

What I understand is that cold doesn’t have any effects on pheromones, but heat does. So you shouldnt have worries..

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**Author:** ![Olfact\_Amorous](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/olfact_amorous/32/434_2.png) [@Olfact\_Amorous](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Olfact_Amorous)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2010, 5:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-heat-cold-effect-pheromones/36480/3 "2010-02-23T17:54:14Z")

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You got nothing to worry about. Mones dont spoil like things like food or insulin etc. As long as you don’t put mones in extreme environments I don’t think theres anything to be concerned with. Its hot in florida and I still to-go’s in the car and it works just fine after weeks baking in there.

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**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2010, 9:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-heat-cold-effect-pheromones/36480/4 "2010-02-23T21:52:18Z")

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faster and quicker hits in hot environment; slower and smoother in colder environment.  
It is less effective in cold, outside, large indoors, etc. A small warm/hot indoor setting is where mones are most effective…

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**Author:** ![Ralse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f475e1/32.png) [@Ralse](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Ralse)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2015, 8:33am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-heat-cold-effect-pheromones/36480/5 "2015-12-31T08:33:44Z")

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> [@Olfact\_Amorous](#):
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> You got nothing to worry about. Mones dont spoil like things like food or insulin etc. As long as you don’t put mones in extreme environments I don’t think theres anything to be concerned with. Its hot in florida and I still to-go’s in the car and it works just fine after weeks baking in there.

I’m sure they don’t spoil like food, but how do they spoil, if they spoil?  
I had a togo bottle in my cupboard for a year and it started to turn yellow.  
How long would mones last in a closet?

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**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2015, 12:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-heat-cold-effect-pheromones/36480/6 "2015-12-31T12:35:10Z")

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Use your nose! Pheros get very sour/unpleasant smelling when they go-off.

Otherwise, a bit of yellowing is no problem - some products do that after a while no matter how they are stored but there is no effect on performance.

Extreme heat can damage pheros but will likely do-for the scent/solvent components first.

Dark storage is probably more important - Pheros can degraded badly by light. in a room-temp cupboard they will last for years.

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**Author:** ![Conjurator](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/conjurator/32/410_2.png) [@Conjurator](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Conjurator)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2015, 4:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-heat-cold-effect-pheromones/36480/7 "2015-12-31T16:28:14Z")

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Question for you Mobo. What happens if the products freezes during transport? It’s more than a possibility around here to get severe subzero temperatures (-20 to -30C) if I order some bottles here in january/february? Will the PA/DPG mix prevent the bottles from freezing? If so, down to what temperature? If it freezes, will freeze/thaw ruin everything mone-wise?

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**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2015, 5:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-heat-cold-effect-pheromones/36480/8 "2015-12-31T17:57:04Z")

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The lowest I’ve had personal experience of is about -14c and that had no ill-effects whatsoever.

The freezing point of PA is what, around -90c and DPG approx -40c, so no I doubt that would be any kind of problem. Although mone diffusion below around 4c is IME negligible. Look for heated indoor space then and let your fresh out the cold, rosy glow do its best to help you. 🙂
