# Does IH cause a somber or depressed mood in the wearer? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [July 2, 2012, 12:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-ih-cause-a-somber-or-depressed-mood-in-the-wearer/56022 "2012-07-02T12:26:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![dsouza](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dsouza/32/840_2.png) [@dsouza](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dsouza)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2012, 12:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-ih-cause-a-somber-or-depressed-mood-in-the-wearer/56022/1 "2012-07-02T12:26:41Z")
Any links to IH causes somber or depressed mood in the wearer.. In the past I have felt rather introspective and rather flat while wearing it.. It wasn’t more than a spray or 2.. Did anyone else experience it? This time round I’m planning on adding in [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) IS… ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2012, 1:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-ih-cause-a-somber-or-depressed-mood-in-the-wearer/56022/2 "2012-07-02T13:17:02Z")
I can’t come up with any links but I have heard that Bnol which is the primary in IH can cause more introspection in some people. It wont cause depression but if depression is there you will notice it. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![Aghor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/aghor/32/1558_2.png) [@Aghor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Aghor)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2012, 12:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-ih-cause-a-somber-or-depressed-mood-in-the-wearer/56022/3 "2012-07-03T00:46:56Z")
while using heavy doses of IH when I was new to it, i used to fall in to those silent moods where I wont feel like talking much.. but on regular use, I got used to it and later on I have even used upto 12X (yeah 6 sprays of double strength) without any such introspective moods. as to what I was doing with 12X IH… that is a different story… PS: I had worn 30-45 mcg [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) along with that 12 X IH 😛 ---
**Author:** ![dsouza](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dsouza/32/840_2.png) [@dsouza](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dsouza)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2012, 3:31am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-ih-cause-a-somber-or-depressed-mood-in-the-wearer/56022/4 "2012-07-03T03:31:50Z")
One other question: IF IH makes others more open to intimacy and deeper communication but you are wearing something like IS/AMMO on the neck and IH on elbows wouldn’t you still be more of a sensual , happy guy and not intimate because the IH wouldn’t be effecting you as much? Therefore if a woman wants a serious discussion and you keep it light will there be problems with congruency? The reason I’d rather spray IH to my elbows and not my neck is because last time I did it to my neck it made me introspective into my depressive thoughts.. It was not good . ---
**Author:** ![Aghor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/aghor/32/1558_2.png) [@Aghor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Aghor)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2012, 6:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-ih-cause-a-somber-or-depressed-mood-in-the-wearer/56022/5 "2012-07-03T06:19:20Z")
do not go by last time alone… it may be due to the particular situation. I’d suggest that you reserve your judgement atleast until you have used it similarly for atleast 5 more times. I never faced depression or anything near it while wearing IH. Oh high doses it just made me not wanting to talk… I think its from the comfort generated by IH which necessarily makes you not feel the need to open your mouth to connect with the persons near you ---
**Author:** ![dsouza](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dsouza/32/840_2.png) [@dsouza](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dsouza)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2012, 7:10am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-ih-cause-a-somber-or-depressed-mood-in-the-wearer/56022/6 "2012-07-03T07:10:08Z")
> [@Aghor](#): > > do not go by last time alone… it may be due to the particular situation. I’d suggest that you reserve your judgement atleast until you have used it similarly for atleast 5 more times. > > I never faced depression or anything near it while wearing IH. Oh high doses it just made me not wanting to talk… **I think its from the comfort generated by IH which necessarily makes you not feel the need to open your mouth to connect with the persons near you** If you don’t need to open your mouth to connect to people near you, do you connect at all? How do they interpret you? As a loner? As someone whose angry and therefore they have to initiate? Also since you’re saying you don’t need to open your mouth to connect, does that mean IH doesn’t work good with people who a PUA? Is it better left for those who are more seductive listeners? dsouza ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2012, 1:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-ih-cause-a-somber-or-depressed-mood-in-the-wearer/56022/7 "2012-07-03T13:12:35Z")
> [@dsouza](#): > > One other question: > > IF IH makes others more open to intimacy and deeper communication but you are wearing something like IS/AMMO on the neck and IH on elbows wouldn’t you still be more of a sensual , happy guy and not intimate because the IH wouldn’t be effecting you as much? Therefore if a woman wants a serious discussion and you keep it light will there be problems with congruency? > > The reason I’d rather spray IH to my elbows and not my neck is because last time I did it to my neck it made me introspective into my depressive thoughts.. It was not good . No it wont matter. The mix doesn’t usually make the user congruent. Mones work mostly in the subconscious and your conscious your wearing them. I think people get to hung up on congruence. Just don’t act in opposition to the signal thats all. So dont act cold, unfriendly or uncaring. I use IH to the back of my body. I dont find wrists or inner elbows diffuse well at least for me. If I am going to spray to the arms I sweep the spray up the forearm. > [@](#): > > If you don’t need to open your mouth to connect to people near you, do you connect at all? How do they interpret you? As a loner? As someone whose angry and therefore they have to initiate? You dont need to open you mouth to connect. We communicate in many ways other then verbal communication. Body language is a huge way people communicate subconsciously. Pheremonally, through touch, facial expressions. So suppose someone is effected by your IH and they come up and sit next to you and spill there guts. You dont really have to say anything. Just make eye contact, nod your head, maybe tilt it to the side a little. If they start to bring something up thats emotional touch there shoulder or hand. > [@](#): > > Also since you’re saying you don’t need to open your mouth to connect, does that mean IH doesn’t work good with people who a PUA? Is it better left for those who are more seductive listeners? Being a PUA is not just about being a smooth talker. Listening is probably more important to a PUA then talking. I think IH would work fine for a PUA. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![Aghor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/aghor/32/1558_2.png) [@Aghor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Aghor)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2012, 12:39am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-ih-cause-a-somber-or-depressed-mood-in-the-wearer/56022/8 "2012-07-04T00:39:13Z")
> [@dsouza](#): > > If you don’t need to open your mouth to connect to people near you, do you connect at all? How do they interpret you? As a loner? As someone whose angry and therefore they have to initiate? > > Also since you’re saying you don’t need to open your mouth to connect, does that mean IH doesn’t work good with people who a PUA? Is it better left for those who are more seductive listeners? > > dsouza I didnt exactly mean one do not need to open your mouth to connect to people. All I mean was that with high doses of IH you and your neighbors could feel connected to each other even without much conversation. Its like being around with someone you have known for ages… hard to explain in words…unless you have experienced the same… The trick with gauging the impact of [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/) in not in relying only on what others experience or think happened to them but to experience it yourself… I still maintain that you should experiment more with IH or any other phero before rushing in to a conclusion. After using more than 150 ml of IH (thats 5 + bottles) I never found it depressive…may be puts u in a bit of introspective mood at worst. Thats just my opinion… ---
**Author:** ![dsouza](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dsouza/32/840_2.png) [@dsouza](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dsouza)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2012, 1:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-ih-cause-a-somber-or-depressed-mood-in-the-wearer/56022/9 "2012-07-04T01:00:02Z")
> [@Aghor](#): > > I didnt exactly mean one do not need to open your mouth to connect to people. All I mean was that with high doses of IH you and your neighbors could feel connected to each other even without much conversation. Its like being around with someone you have known for ages… hard to explain in words…unless you have experienced the same… > > The trick with gauging the impact of pheromones in not in relying only on what others experience or think happened to them but to experience it yourself… I still maintain that you should experiment more with IH or any other phero before rushing in to a conclusion. > > After using more than 150 ml of IH (thats 5 + bottles) I never found it depressive…may be puts u in a bit of introspective mood at worst. Thats just my opinion… Thanks Aghor Can you tell me do think IH works better on its own or do you like to combine it with other mones.. If so which ones? ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2012, 1:44am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-ih-cause-a-somber-or-depressed-mood-in-the-wearer/56022/10 "2012-07-04T01:44:49Z")
IH works well with so many mones to different ends. Particularly IME Ammo, A314 (all forms) IS, TAA, TUTH, P74, P83, P103, P96, Alter Ego and NPA. Its just finding the combo that suits you and your siuation best. Personal favourites of mine include - IS/IH + sexual, P74/IH + A314. ---
**Author:** ![Aghor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/aghor/32/1558_2.png) [@Aghor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Aghor)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2012, 2:21am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-ih-cause-a-somber-or-depressed-mood-in-the-wearer/56022/11 "2012-07-04T02:21:01Z")
u said it mobo 🙂 IH goes well with so many phers… my personal favorite is AMMO + IH + [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/) or just an overdose of IH and P83 when u go drinking with friends.. just for the perverse pleasure of getting access to the nastiest confessions 😃 ---
**Author:** ![dsouza](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dsouza/32/840_2.png) [@dsouza](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dsouza)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2012, 6:38am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-ih-cause-a-somber-or-depressed-mood-in-the-wearer/56022/12 "2012-07-04T06:38:38Z")
> [@mobocaster](#): > > IH works well with so many mones to different ends. Particularly IME Ammo, A314 (all forms) IS, TAA, TUTH, P74, P83, P103, P96, Alter Ego and NPA. > > Its just finding the combo that suits you and your siuation best. > > Personal favourites of mine include - IS/IH + sexual, P74/IH + A314. A 21 year old waitress tells me she is taken (I indirectly asked her).. She knows I’m taken too. Right now I’m just trying to figure out why she gave me so many IOI and went out of her way to talk to me over other customers over the past 3 weeks. There may be some interest there but she is in a relationship. In any case I had given her a task to do a couple of weeks back that I thought she would enjoy. That is checking out my youtube channel.. Last week when I saw her she apologized by saying she’s been working all week and would look into it.. Now i’m on the second week and so far nada. If I get no response from her at all by the end of this week I want to go into the restaurant and kinda forget PUA mentality, forget even pursuing her ( she has a boyfriend and told me) in that way, but try to find out what she really thinks of me and why. I figure I have to be nice to her so she’ knows I’m not a total ass\*ole and at the same time I have to get her to know I’m upset but not devasted (not that she has a boyfriend but why she’s not following up with a favor I asked her). The point of this all? I’ve been wearing AMMO/IS around her and now I think its time to add some IH to open her lips and make her slip! She didn’t respond well to a314 in the past and i find most waitresses at this restaurant don’t. Would you recommend IS/AMMO/IH or IS/IH.. I have been wearing ammo around her at 2 sprays for 2 weeks now and seen her 3 times. We are basically out of the dating bracket now (well potential may be there if she didn’t have a BF) but I’d like to keep her as a friend but only if she respects me.. I am not a good flirt.. but my whole life I’ve been great at creating a challenge. I want HER to pursue me at this point and wonder if IH is the ticket. Maybe it will bring her guard down as she sees me as someone she can open up to and not someone who sees her as a slut (i.e. since she’s taken). She is young.. I figure ammo at 2 sprays may be too much for her. Also I have found when I applied IH in the past to my neck I became somewhat effected by it.. I know I shouldn’t judge this based on a few experiences but even the website says it will effect you more if you wear it close to your head and neck. Tisha says spraying the elbows isn’t going to work much and thats basically my only choice as I wear a tshirt. Any ideas where else I can spray it? ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2012, 7:34am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-ih-cause-a-somber-or-depressed-mood-in-the-wearer/56022/13 "2012-07-04T07:34:18Z")
> [@dsouza](#): > > A 21 year old waitress tells me she is taken (I indirectly asked her).. She knows I’m taken too. Right now I’m just trying to figure out why she gave me so many IOI and went out of her way to talk to me over other customers over the past 3 weeks. There may be some interest there but she is in a relationship. > > Any ideas where else I can spray it? Women do this all the time, almost regardless of any relationship status - They like flirting and being flirted with. Some go as far as claiming its some sort of validation reflex to confirm that they are still attractive or others see it as them constantly testing the water in search of someone better. Personally I think its more simple/straightforward and most of them just like to flirt a bit and I enjoy flirting back - Just take it in that spirit and don’t be bothered if they don’t follow through, or put a stop when its going too far - at least you know where you are and can concentrate elsewhere. Also, by engaging with them, you will inevitably meet more women who are in a position to go fourther, if you click - but if you don’t flirt a bit, you will never know. 🙂 Application - I tend to go mainly for the wrists/forearms and neck. Back of neck has least self effects and like any phero, self effects are often strongest the first few times you wear them. So using a small dose over several days to a couple of weeks can help innure yourself to any negative self effects. I get the downers from A1 and it took about a fortnight of wearing a minimal dose daily and washing when it hit to adjust myself - now I can wear a reasonable dose without problems, even if its been a while. Similarly, I can wear hefty doses of 4x IH (yes, I still have most of a bottle! 😉 ) with no ill effect when needed. ---
**Author:** ![Whitehall](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/whitehall/32/1087_2.png) [@Whitehall](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Whitehall)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2012, 10:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-ih-cause-a-somber-or-depressed-mood-in-the-wearer/56022/14 "2012-07-04T10:46:05Z")
I found that it depresses the male libido and performance (mine at least). Others have disputed my observations for not very good reasons or bases but I’ve seen the trend. I avoid it for sexual situations. ---
**Author:** ![dsouza](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dsouza/32/840_2.png) [@dsouza](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dsouza)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2012, 11:43am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-ih-cause-a-somber-or-depressed-mood-in-the-wearer/56022/15 "2012-07-04T11:43:57Z")
I’m wearing 3 IS 2 AMMO and 2 IH all to my neck tonight out to a restaurant.. I’m going in without any idea what to expect so as they say expect the unexpected! I can’t wait… let us see how the cards unfold! I will report back my IH experience (That is the only thing that has changed in the mix I wear – I usually wear IS AMMO all the time). ---
**Author:** ![dsouza](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dsouza/32/840_2.png) [@dsouza](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dsouza)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2012, 2:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-ih-cause-a-somber-or-depressed-mood-in-the-wearer/56022/16 "2012-07-04T14:55:32Z")
> [@dsouza](#): > > I’m wearing 3 IS 2 AMMO and 2 IH all to my neck tonight out to a restaurant.. I’m going in without any idea what to expect so as they say expect the unexpected! > > I can’t wait… let us see how the cards unfold! I will report back my IH experience (That is the only thing that has changed in the mix I wear – I usually wear IS AMMO all the time). Just got back from my outing.. As usual IH backfired on me and its not the 1st nor only 5th time this has happened. It created great introspection making me prone to tension and bout of depression that already exist (I am bipolar). I never have this problem with IS AMMO. IH = wrong product for me at all costs. ALSO SO says I looked tense as hell and “out of it”. Whereas 20 min before applying it I was jolly ,extroverted and in a good mood. I wore IS/AMMO/IH. I’ll be sending my bottles of IH back for refund! ---
**Author:** ![Aghor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/aghor/32/1558_2.png) [@Aghor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Aghor)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2012, 5:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-ih-cause-a-somber-or-depressed-mood-in-the-wearer/56022/17 "2012-07-04T17:09:20Z")
> [@dsouza](#): > > It created great introspection making me prone to tension and bout of depression that already exist (I am bipolar). maybe your medical condition has something to do with this… else more people should have had the same effect ---
**Author:** ![dsouza](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dsouza/32/840_2.png) [@dsouza](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dsouza)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2012, 7:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-ih-cause-a-somber-or-depressed-mood-in-the-wearer/56022/18 "2012-07-04T19:08:49Z")
> [@Aghor](#): > > maybe your medical condition has something to do with this… else more people should have had the same effect IS . AMMO has never bothered my medical condition.. But IH does.. Strange.. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2012, 11:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-ih-cause-a-somber-or-depressed-mood-in-the-wearer/56022/19 "2012-07-04T23:37:40Z")
> [@](#): > > A 21 year old waitress tells me she is taken (I indirectly asked her).. She knows I’m taken too. Right now I’m just trying to figure out why she gave me so many [IOI](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-tell-a-woman-is-interested-in-you-the-master-indicators-of-interest-list/8333) and went out of her way to talk to me over other customers over the past 3 weeks. There may be some interest there but she is in a relationship. IOI are just that. We find interest but interest doesn’t always indicate desire or availability. Women flirt more so if they sense a man is interested in them whether they are interested or not they flirt. Its a ego thing. > [@](#): > > IS . AMMO has never bothered my medical condition.. But IH does.. Strange.. I agree it probably just doesnt mesh with your natural chemistry. Bnol is not in Ammo or IS so that gives you a strong indication which molecule is not compatable with you. Depending on our natural chemistry and medical issues certain mones wont mesh or work for us the same as they do for others. Take Whitehalls example. Its not the IH in itself that is causing the issue, its how the IH meshes with his natural chemistry and the signal that it is sending to his body. I know hundreds of males who use IH in intimate situations and have the opposite effect. This in no way means there is something wrong with your natural chemistry. We are all designed a little different, there is no wrong or right. There is just products that fit our individual needs and chemistry’s and products that dont. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![dsouza](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dsouza/32/840_2.png) [@dsouza](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dsouza)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2012, 10:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-ih-cause-a-somber-or-depressed-mood-in-the-wearer/56022/20 "2012-07-05T10:40:00Z")
> [@tisha23](#): > > IOI are just that. We find interest but interest doesn’t always indicate desire or availability. Women flirt more so if they sense a man is interested in them whether they are interested or not they flirt. Its a ego thing. > > I agree it probably just doesnt mesh with your natural chemistry. Bnol is not in Ammo or IS so that gives you a strong indication which molecule is not compatable with you. > > Depending on our natural chemistry and medical issues certain mones wont mesh or work for us the same as they do for others. Take Whitehalls example. Its not the IH in itself that is causing the issue, its how the IH meshes with his natural chemistry and the signal that it is sending to his body. I know hundreds of males who use IH in intimate situations and have the opposite effect. This in no way means there is something wrong with your natural chemistry. > > We are all designed a little different, there is no wrong or right. There is just products that fit our individual needs and chemistry’s and products that dont. > > Tisha I agree wholeheartedly, which is why I’ve opted to order in some ammo summer edition.. Can’t wait to try that out!