# Does IO make you more beta? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [September 2, 2011, 7:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-io-make-you-more-beta/52154 "2011-09-02T19:30:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![kentdave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f04885/32.png) [@kentdave](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/kentdave)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2011, 7:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-io-make-you-more-beta/52154/1 "2011-09-02T19:30:34Z")
I’m pretty sure I already have the answer to my question, but I just wanna confirm it - does IO make one more beta? One spray and I didn’t feel as certain or confident, and I found myself second-guessing my actions (at least for a while). 6 hours later, two sprays made me giddy and unable to focus [during lecture], more chatty but feeling less confident and manly. I suppose with all the -nol in it this is natural, so is it common that you would use IO (or the socials in general) with something like A314, IG, IJ and the like? Would love to hear your opinion, thanks. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Sebastian](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/john_sebastian/32/1060_2.png) [@John\_Sebastian](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/John_Sebastian)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2011, 1:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-io-make-you-more-beta/52154/2 "2011-09-03T13:00:21Z")
Not if you don’t let it. I blame this post on a misconception (that I am ready to squash) that socials make you less alpha. Completely false. IO can get people chatty but it doesn’t mean your status is lowered. If anything in some situations I’ve seen it make somebody the alpha - because you become a congregation point. Work with it! ---
**Author:** ![thegentleman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/thegentleman/32/1770_2.png) [@thegentleman](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/thegentleman)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2011, 8:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-io-make-you-more-beta/52154/3 "2011-09-03T20:24:58Z")
Yeah socials don’t make you less alpha or less attractive. Man IS can make you one attractive mother fudda! Add in some IH after you get to know each other a bit and you’re one of the few people she’s around that make her feel so damn good…nothing more attractive than that. ---
**Author:** ![Felex](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/felex/32/1096_2.png) [@Felex](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Felex)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2011, 8:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-io-make-you-more-beta/52154/4 "2011-09-03T20:50:27Z")
Im my experience the only time i ever felt bete wearing Io is when I became introverted(Im always extroverted) but i think itss do to that fact that i know I’m wearing a product that suppose to make it easier for me to make conversion with people ,but im stuck in my head.Thats probably why you feel betta becuase you know your wearing the io but ur in your head imagine idk wtf.then the negative self talk starts and then the body feelings follow…and that why you feel beta This happen to me few times till i figured it out.If your going to wear Io try being in an optomistic mood were your naturally wanting to talk then take a spray or whatever. ---
**Author:** ![kentdave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f04885/32.png) [@kentdave](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/kentdave)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2011, 8:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-io-make-you-more-beta/52154/5 "2011-09-03T20:57:57Z")
actually i meant did it make YOU feel more beta? i’m sure appearing social and all may make you appear more alpha, but personally what were the self effects of IO? in my experience i felt more beta, but that was only a single time, so there could have been other factors too. a highly probable one was cause i was constantly watching to see what IO would do, and such self-awareness made me more self-conscious / less certain. i am finding that the best way for mones to work is to spray them on and forget about them, and then you’ll find that the results are much more natural. ---
**Author:** ![Felex](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/felex/32/1096_2.png) [@Felex](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Felex)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2011, 9:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-io-make-you-more-beta/52154/6 "2011-09-03T21:24:00Z")
Honestly I don’t get anu self effects on Io its effects others like on day at work i was talking a lot n one of the cooks told me i talk too much after w while i go and spray 2 shots of io and i was quite and she keep saying i talk too much when i would barely say a few things so i think for me its works with others no self effects ---
**Author:** ![Pandakun](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pandakun/32/953_2.png) [@Pandakun](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Pandakun)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2011, 7:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-io-make-you-more-beta/52154/7 "2011-09-04T07:00:05Z")
I got Little to No Self Effects… Also I Don’t Think any Product MAKES You Anything… You Have a Choice… If you Feel the Product Gives you a Beta Vibe then Just Up Your Alpha Game abit… Or Mood is Honestly Up to You a Good 90% of the Time… ---
**Author:** ![thegentleman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/thegentleman/32/1770_2.png) [@thegentleman](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/thegentleman)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2011, 5:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-io-make-you-more-beta/52154/8 "2011-09-04T17:15:57Z")
I used to feel self-conscious when I would wear IH ONLY because I have no boundaries, and that’s something that can get me into a lot of trouble. It finally came to me one day when I kept finding myself going ahead and sending that text I knew I shouldn’t, or saying one more thing I knew I shouldn’t. I started to see the correlation, and how much IH I was wearing LOL. I’m not blaming the product, I have a choice. But once I realized it was having some effect on me, anytime I wore it, it was like showing up baked at a 7-11 to get some chips and being all in my head saying…“OMG they must know I’m high…no one ever buys chips at a 7-11 sober.” So yeah, when I would be wearing it, I’d get all in my head making sure to censor myself…but not so much anymore. I’m now just spray and play and then analyze later. ---
**Author:** ![kentdave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f04885/32.png) [@kentdave](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/kentdave)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2011, 6:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-io-make-you-more-beta/52154/9 "2011-09-04T18:24:32Z")
> [@thegentleman](#): > > I’m now just spray and play and then analyze later. yes i find analyzing all the time kills everything, and i may tend to do that more when i wear mones (after all it’s my first time!). spray and play sounds great. must remember to just go have fun. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Gslinger](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/johnny_gslinger/32/748_2.png) [@Johnny\_Gslinger](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Johnny_Gslinger)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2011, 8:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-io-make-you-more-beta/52154/10 "2011-09-04T20:31:30Z")
If you’re the naturally chatty type and are one of those who find a need to talk to people when they’re around you and you feel awkward with silence then yes IO might make you a little beta because you might then find yourself having conversation that doesn’t make you display value. This is where posture and inner game come into play. If a certain product brings out a certain flaw in you then make a conscious mental note to deal with the effects I don’t know about IO but one of my friends has remarked that he tends to feel a little beta when he has IH on and that Beta-Androstenol makes him overthink things, ie. it causes thoughts to ruminate in his mind so he tends to guess too much or is over-sensitive when he’s with his girls. Make note of your own personality and character traits and be conscious of the changes when you bring IO out. You’ll be able to tell if IO does make you beta or not > [@kentdave](#): > > I’m pretty sure I already have the answer to my question, but I just wanna confirm it - does IO make one more beta? > > One spray and I didn’t feel as certain or confident, and I found myself second-guessing my actions (at least for a while). > > 6 hours later, two sprays made me giddy and unable to focus [during lecture], more chatty but feeling less confident and manly. > > I suppose with all the -nol in it this is natural, so is it common that you would use IO (or the socials in general) with something like A314, IG, IJ and the like? > > Would love to hear your opinion, thanks. ---
**Author:** ![kentdave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f04885/32.png) [@kentdave](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/kentdave)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2011, 8:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-io-make-you-more-beta/52154/11 "2011-09-04T20:44:58Z")
> [@Johnny\_Gslinger](#): > > If you’re the naturally chatty type and are one of those who find a need to talk to people when they’re around you and you feel awkward with silence then yes IO might make you a little beta because you might then find yourself having conversation that doesn’t make you display value. This is where posture and inner game come into play. > > If a certain product brings out a certain flaw in you then make a conscious mental note to deal with the effects > > I don’t know about IO but one of my friends has remarked that he tends to feel a little beta when he has IH on and that Beta-Androstenol makes him overthink things, ie. it causes thoughts to ruminate in his mind so he tends to guess too much or is over-sensitive when he’s with his girls. > > Make note of your own personality and character traits and be conscious of the changes when you bring IO out. You’ll be able to tell if IO does make you beta or not Thanks Johnny, very good answer, resonates with me. ---
**Author:** ![Astrea](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/astrea/32/1928_2.png) [@Astrea](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Astrea)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2011, 12:23am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-io-make-you-more-beta/52154/12 "2011-09-05T00:23:06Z")
> [@kentdave](#): > > actually i meant did it make YOU feel more beta? i’m sure appearing social and all may make you appear more alpha, but personally what were the self effects of IO? > > in my experience i felt more beta, but that was only a single time, so there could have been other factors too. a highly probable one was cause i was constantly watching to see what IO would do, and such self-awareness made me more self-conscious / less certain. > > **i am finding that the best way for mones to work is to spray them on and forget about them,** and then you’ll find that the results are much more natural. 🙄 Duh.