# Does P74 Have Any attraction? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [July 19, 2014, 4:34am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-p74-have-any-attraction/62446 "2014-07-19T04:34:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Mrdimes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/50afbb/32.png) [@Mrdimes](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mrdimes)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2014, 4:34am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-p74-have-any-attraction/62446/1 "2014-07-19T04:34:26Z")
By itself say at 10 to 30mcg range? Can it create some type of crush attraction effect with highschool girls? These are things I need to know for my final decision on it. Share your experience if you like 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Username1234](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/43a26b/32.png) [@Username1234](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Username1234)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2014, 7:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-p74-have-any-attraction/62446/2 "2014-07-19T07:46:26Z")
I think it’s a very friendly phero, but I’ve read that if you use too much of it then it can put you in the friendzone and make you quite beta. You need something like ammo, IG or a314 with it. I have read that it can create a crush effect, but I think that is something that would take multiple exposures. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2014, 10:20am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-p74-have-any-attraction/62446/3 "2014-07-19T10:20:17Z")
[P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/) is great for stimulating closeness, comfort and bonded feelings with someone but is best when used along with other products to keep the sexual &/or status aspects going. Also look into “boyfriending” behaviour traits to help it hit home. P74 will also moderate/round-out overt sexuals like TUTH in ways that do make them more usable around younger women. If you are looking at using it for fallout/crushy effects then you need to be pairing it with IH. See all the fallout threads for more advice. A314 and IH/A314 is also in this spectrum but will be more tuned for older women. Dose - If you want its properties for attraction, then keep it at the lower end of the scale. 10-30mcg is a reasonable range but even by the time you get to 20-30mcg, I would expect you to be using a morerately overt sexual alongside it. More than 30mcg in a mix is the stuff of serious professional/interpersonal bonding mixes that are most likely nonsexual or you would be using a honking sexual to help offset its friendliness. ---
**Author:** ![Mrdimes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/50afbb/32.png) [@Mrdimes](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mrdimes)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2014, 11:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-p74-have-any-attraction/62446/4 "2014-07-19T11:28:40Z")
> [@mobocaster](#): > > P74 is great for stimulating closeness, comfort and bonded feelings with someone but is best when used along with other products to keep the sexual &/or status aspects going. Also look into “boyfriending” behaviour traits to help it hit home. > > P74 will also moderate/round-out overt sexuals like TUTH in ways that do make them more usable around younger women. > > If you are looking at using it for fallout/crushy effects then you need to be pairing it with IH. See all the fallout threads for more advice. A314 and IH/A314 is also in this spectrum but will be more tuned for older women. > > Dose - If you want its properties for attraction, then keep it at the lower end of the scale. 10-30mcg is a reasonable range but even by the time you get to 20-30mcg, I would expect you to be using a morerately overt sexual alongside it. More than 30mcg in a mix is the stuff of serious professional/interpersonal bonding mixes that are most likely nonsexual or you would be using a honking sexual to help offset its friendliness. When you say a sexual… Can ammo fill that spot or would something TUTH be needed? ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2014, 1:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-p74-have-any-attraction/62446/5 "2014-07-19T13:28:50Z")
Around younger women, yes P74 will round-out [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) nicely. ---
**Author:** ![leaf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ec9cab/32.png) [@leaf](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/leaf)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2014, 4:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-p74-have-any-attraction/62446/6 "2014-07-19T16:10:12Z")
i read on this forum that mixing p74 with another phero gives a friendly vibe with attraction. ---
**Author:** ![sillysilly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4bbf92/32.png) [@sillysilly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sillysilly)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2014, 7:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-p74-have-any-attraction/62446/7 "2014-07-21T07:27:15Z")
i want more information about p74 as-well its is my all time favorite [pheromone](https://a314.com/shop/) for self effects around 10mcg its that one pheromone that gets girls looking at me, stops bitchsheilds, and makes girls comfortable around me during the day. and i alwase have a awesome time with it on, same as the fun i have with mx297 but with both these i have yet to have a kiss or lay while wearing p74. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2014, 8:36am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-p74-have-any-attraction/62446/8 "2014-07-21T08:36:14Z")
There is a lot of info on P74 here if you search back. And for [MX297](https://a314.com/product/mx297/) and P74, the best way to make them sexual is to add something like TUTH - Both are capable moderators, and MX297 is so astoundingly sociable, you don’t need to worry too much about ODing with it. ---
**Author:** ![monesmadedoit](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/monesmadedoit/32/325_2.png) [@monesmadedoit](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/monesmadedoit)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2014, 1:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-p74-have-any-attraction/62446/9 "2014-07-21T13:26:56Z")
[P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/) 20 mcg + P75 10 mcg = Attracts blondes. P74 20 mcg + p75 10 mcg = Attracts men. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2014, 4:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-p74-have-any-attraction/62446/10 "2014-07-21T16:24:05Z")
TBH, guys can be attracted to almost any female-oriented phero sig. Even the most overt and masculine. I’ve found that time and time again - and its often a good sign you have hit an excellent combo. But yes, the bonding/buddy qualities of [P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/) are also very useful in other ways. Its no accident I’ve got a rep for being able to cope with the awkward squad at work - P74 mixes have been great at getting the more difficult arseholes on my side when needed - and often with a good few females going doe-eyed and fluttering their lashes at the dame time - and juducuous use an overt sexual does help the “if you don’t do what I say, you **will** regret it!” Impression. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![sillysilly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4bbf92/32.png) [@sillysilly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sillysilly)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2014, 7:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-p74-have-any-attraction/62446/11 "2014-07-22T07:26:40Z")
i just want to hear somone say they wear p74, and get same day lays or dates that turn into lays with it on, so i stop advioding this wonderful product, when around girls. ---
**Author:** ![lwatkins](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lwatkins/32/472_2.png) [@lwatkins](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/lwatkins)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2014, 2:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-p74-have-any-attraction/62446/12 "2014-07-22T14:26:55Z")
[P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/) by itself says you’re IN-GROUP, which reduces defensiveness. I think if you go too high, it triggers an incest-avoidance mechanism, like you’re her brother/cousin (who she completely trusts, but doesn’t see that way). The threshold seems to be around 15-20 mcg where if you go over you may begin to trigger it. Which around actual family - your cousins, friends you want to continue to be just friends, etc, that’s what you want. With a love-interest, a lower amount seems helpful to form a good rapport, but not too high to trigger defense against incest - ie. “good neighbor”, rather than the out-group “creepy stranger”. One strategy is you can start out very high with the P74, and very low on the eNone (0.5 mcg), to get good emotional bonding for friendship. Then over time gradually lower the P74 and ratchet up the eNone until you see some negative reactions. The spark develops and frienship develops fallout. It’s been said that TAF is useful to help women “see you in a new light” and be more open-minded about your potential, when combined with eNone / eRONE, and other masculine P’s, she will become aware of your sexual readiness and begins to mirror. I agree with this. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2014, 4:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-p74-have-any-attraction/62446/13 "2014-07-22T16:24:04Z")
Yes - the starting with [P74](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p74/) higher in the mix and later introducing the none is something I’ve noticed as well - Mainly when wearing P74 in professional mixes at @40mcg. Then adding a sexual after - that has turned many women drawn to me/exhibiting fallout by the prof mix into a very sexual frame of mind. Except I’m not usually so subtle with the None. P74 can take it! 😃 But if I was looking for attraction/closeness properties from the off, I would keep the P74 much lower. 30mcg would be used beside something quite ballsy but a more broad-based social/sexy or status/sexual would normally be 20mcg or less. ---
**Author:** ![still18](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/34f0e0/32.png) [@still18](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/still18)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2014, 10:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-p74-have-any-attraction/62446/14 "2014-07-22T22:58:55Z")
[P74](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p74/) on its own is too friendly, especially in high doses 15mcg+ and lacks respect, as people walking over you. It needs at least some P75 to make it attractive. ---
**Author:** ![sillysilly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4bbf92/32.png) [@sillysilly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sillysilly)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2014, 8:58am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-p74-have-any-attraction/62446/15 "2014-07-23T08:58:15Z")
> [@lwatkins](#): > > P74 by itself says you’re IN-GROUP, which reduces defensiveness. I think if you go too high, it triggers an incest-avoidance mechanism, like you’re her brother/cousin (who she completely trusts, but doesn’t see that way). The threshold seems to be around 15-20 mcg where if you go over you may begin to trigger it. Which around actual family - your cousins, friends you want to continue to be just friends, etc, that’s what you want. With a love-interest, a lower amount seems helpful to form a good rapport, but not too high to trigger defense against incest - ie. “good neighbor”, rather than the out-group “creepy stranger”. > > One strategy is you can start out very high with the P74, and very low on the eNone (0.5 mcg), to get good emotional bonding for friendship. Then over time gradually lower the P74 and ratchet up the eNone until you see some negative reactions. The spark develops and frienship develops fallout. > > It’s been said that TAF is useful to help women “see you in a new light” and be more open-minded about your potential, when combined with eNone / eRONE, and other masculine P’s, she will become aware of your sexual readiness and begins to mirror. I agree with this. Wow excellent post! my standard p74 is 10mcg for good results socially and self effects. I haven’t gone over that but maybe its to much, i have seen 5mcg stop bitchy girls so maybe that could be a new night dosage. (on note i have walked into a bar when everyone was dancing dirty with p74 in a few seconds of its presence everyone stops making out and everyone is modestly talking. at 1am. I have meet a couple of girls in day game with 10mcg p74 solo and p74/1ammo. All were perfect interactions in daytime! neither of thoses dates turned sexual though, even though i turned up with no p74 but maybe the problem is i stop using it, in replacement for others. up the none possibly form the usual if theres p74 Or half the p74 and substitute the other half to IS. or 5mcg p130 which also gives me the desired comfort from woman im looking for. I dont want girls to blush and run away like most do, p74 stops this so does p130, Tac and IH. But noting can beat p74 in the comfort and interest/ ioi’s it can get in girls. Just interest that makes friends. p74 and mx297 kills my sex drive. do you think matching p74 with p96 could keep it sexual. You have a good tactic one i have been thinking myself but i want the right impression to be on her when i first meet her. p102 has similarities to TAF? As i have p102 and not TAF. I have been thinking lately that p102 can possibly break the friend zone. and now i think about it the strong iois i have had with p74 that felt intimate i had p102 on as well with p74. But then again it could just be boosting the p74 response. ---
**Author:** ![Mrdimes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/50afbb/32.png) [@Mrdimes](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mrdimes)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2014, 9:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-p74-have-any-attraction/62446/16 "2014-07-23T21:16:27Z")
> [@still18](#): > > P74 on its own is too friendly, especially in high doses 15mcg+ and lacks respect, as people walking over you. It needs at least some P75 to make it attractive. Really? I have heard nothing but friendliness and buddy effects from high p74. Would you say 12.5 mcg is pushing it? ---
**Author:** ![still18](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/34f0e0/32.png) [@still18](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/still18)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2014, 9:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-p74-have-any-attraction/62446/17 "2014-07-23T21:51:07Z")
> [@Mrdimes](#): > > Really? I have heard nothing but friendliness and buddy effects from high p74. Would you say 12.5 mcg is pushing it? The most buddy effects are noticeable when combining [P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/) with a respect product like IG or A314, its not really noticeable for me with P74 alone. It would benefit a guy the most if he’s really intimidating and would need to dial down his attitude, I don’t see any other benefit from it. 12.5mcg would be still OK to wear. 20mcg is a bit on the high side. ---
**Author:** ![banditdave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/47e85d/32.png) [@banditdave](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/banditdave)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2014, 11:42am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-p74-have-any-attraction/62446/18 "2014-07-24T11:42:03Z")
It’s been a while since I’ve worn [P74](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p74/) solo. From what I can remember P74, solo in the 15-45mcg range is more like “hey buddy” than “attraction/crush”. From my haphazard testing a while back I noticed the crush effect was a little more consistent from partnering P74(45mcg)+ P83(15mcg) and IS(2X) but that’s a little bit off topic. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2014, 12:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-p74-have-any-attraction/62446/19 "2014-07-24T12:15:13Z")
> [@banditdave](#): > > It’s been a while since I’ve worn P74 solo. From what I can remember P74, solo in the 15-45mcg range is more like “hey buddy” than “attraction/crush”. From my haphazard testing a while back I noticed the crush effect was a little more consistent from partnering P74(45mcg)+ P83(15mcg) and IS(2X) but that’s a little bit off topic. For any fallout/crush purposes, IME you really need to be paring P74 and IH in your mix but keeping the P74 below 30mcg, depending on the proportion of any sexual if you want a sexual/romantic response. [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) is also useful but its very much a secondary that can help the P74/IH effects come to the fore - and you need **repeated** exposure, sometimes over a prolonged period to let it set-in.