# Does P75 help with SAD (Social Anxiety Disorder) **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [January 2, 2013, 8:42am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-p75-help-with-sad-social-anxiety-disorder/57724 "2013-01-02T08:42:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![dsouza](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dsouza/32/840_2.png) [@dsouza](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dsouza)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2013, 8:42am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-p75-help-with-sad-social-anxiety-disorder/57724/1 "2013-01-02T08:42:39Z")
Just curious what you think… Many people feel at a loss for what to say or how to act when around beautiful women. [P75](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p75/) has often brought out a confident , funny, and not afraid to express my sexuality side when around women alongside of no emotional attachment during the process. It’s easy to be congruent with as the self effects are huge when it hits. Any people here rather nervous during approach find p75 has helped them during initial encounters? ---
**Author:** ![monesmadedoit](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/monesmadedoit/32/325_2.png) [@monesmadedoit](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/monesmadedoit)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2013, 10:23am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-p75-help-with-sad-social-anxiety-disorder/57724/2 "2013-01-02T10:23:01Z")
> [@dsouza](#): > > Just curious what you think… > > Many people feel at a loss for what to say or how to act when around beautiful women. P75 has often brought out a confident , funny, and not afraid to express my sexuality side when around women alongside of no emotional attachment during the process. It’s easy to be congruent with as the self effects are huge when it hits. > > Any people here rather nervous during approach find p75 has helped them during initial encounters? I wear [P75](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p75/) at between 2.5 and 5 mcg. When I do, I fear no one and nothing. ---
**Author:** ![Evilcalyptic](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/evilcalyptic/32/1567_2.png) [@Evilcalyptic](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Evilcalyptic)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2013, 10:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-p75-help-with-sad-social-anxiety-disorder/57724/3 "2013-01-02T10:46:47Z")
p130 is good for this ---
**Author:** ![dsouza](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dsouza/32/840_2.png) [@dsouza](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dsouza)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2013, 11:17am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-p75-help-with-sad-social-anxiety-disorder/57724/4 "2013-01-02T11:17:28Z")
> [@monesmadedoit](#): > > I wear P75 at between 2.5 and 5 mcg. When I do, I fear no one and nothing. Do you combine with any other mones or use it by itself, when you fear no one and nothing? How consistently do you get these effects? And when you don’t wear it are you still confident to approach beautiful women or are you more shy? 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![dsouza](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dsouza/32/840_2.png) [@dsouza](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dsouza)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2013, 11:18am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-p75-help-with-sad-social-anxiety-disorder/57724/5 "2013-01-02T11:18:52Z")
> [@Evilcalyptic](#): > > p130 is good for this Unfortunately p130, on its own ,has been discontinued! ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2013, 11:20am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-p75-help-with-sad-social-anxiety-disorder/57724/6 "2013-01-02T11:20:07Z")
[MX297](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/mx297/) is the only product that I’ve seen have significant and repeatable positive effects on people with social anxiety and yes, that would include its use with a smallish amount of P75. MX297/CTTM2 also worked pretty well but in a way that previously reticent and avoidant people were next to flaming impossible to get rid of! :o However P75 alone, beyond very small doses (2.5-7.5mcg in my case) without significant social moderation can work against you - It can make life easier for you but set people around you on edge in a way that makes interaction harder overall. ---
**Author:** ![Evilcalyptic](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/evilcalyptic/32/1567_2.png) [@Evilcalyptic](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Evilcalyptic)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2013, 11:30am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-p75-help-with-sad-social-anxiety-disorder/57724/7 "2013-01-02T11:30:26Z")
p130 is golden 13 isnt it? ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2013, 12:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-p75-help-with-sad-social-anxiety-disorder/57724/8 "2013-01-02T12:12:51Z")
> [@Evilcalyptic](#): > > p130 is golden 13 isnt it? Yes it is. ---
**Author:** ![dsouza](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dsouza/32/840_2.png) [@dsouza](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dsouza)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2013, 12:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-p75-help-with-sad-social-anxiety-disorder/57724/9 "2013-01-02T12:58:21Z")
Correct me if I’m wrong but [P130](https://a314.com/product/p130/) is only available in summer ammo right now NOT? If I am wrong please let me know where in the store I can find it.. i searched and couldn’t locate it. ---
**Author:** ![dsouza](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dsouza/32/840_2.png) [@dsouza](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dsouza)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2013, 1:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-p75-help-with-sad-social-anxiety-disorder/57724/10 "2013-01-02T13:08:31Z")
> [@mobocaster](#): > > MX297 is the only product that I’ve seen have significant and repeatable positive effects on people with social anxiety and yes, that would include its use with a smallish amount of P75. MX297/CTTM2 also worked pretty well but in a way that previously reticent and avoidant people were next to flaming impossible to get rid of! :o > > However P75 alone, beyond very small doses (2.5-7.5mcg in my case) without significant social moderation can work against you - It can make life easier for you but set people around you on edge in a way that makes interaction harder overall. Well I tried mx297 p75 and never liked it much because it made me too emotional and always put me in beta friend mode. It also attracted really old asian women eye fucking me. Not my cup of tea. However, summer ammo has worked well for me.. It kills anxiety and also includes p130. Furthermore, p75 in small doses like you said has a no fear vibe. Do you find summer ammo/p75 a very good mix for SAD? I’m talking 2 sprays summer ammo, and maybe 2.5 mcg p75. One other thing we shouldn’t overlook a314.. I only have the a314b togo’s but I find that leaves me fairly confident to talk to people when it hits too. Then again its a relationship builder so that may be why it works so well . SAD seems to be different from just general anxiety or chronic anxiety which plagues a large portion of people these days. It’s the fear of approaching a stranger… even the best PUA in the world say it took them hundreds of approaches to tame it and it still resurfaces with them. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2013, 1:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-p75-help-with-sad-social-anxiety-disorder/57724/11 "2013-01-02T13:41:57Z")
[Summer Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/)/P75 is an excellent mix, esp around younger ones but apart from its more genial, fun/playful/chilled vibe, I can’t say I’ve noticed any significant anxiety-reducing effects on anyone. A314 might well be good for you and your personal situation but personally, it has been about the worst phero of all for me to wear around anxiety sufferers as it tends to overwhelm them entirely and leave them cowed by my very presence. Which only makes your own position more difficult. And yes, Summer is the only P130 product for now, except when they give it out in MX or putative form with orders - Its never been on sale as a single molecule. Trading post might be the next best option for getting it? ---
**Author:** ![monesmadedoit](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/monesmadedoit/32/325_2.png) [@monesmadedoit](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/monesmadedoit)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2013, 5:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-p75-help-with-sad-social-anxiety-disorder/57724/12 "2013-01-02T17:19:06Z")
> [@dsouza](#): > > Do you combine with any other mones or use it by itself, when you fear no one and nothing? > > How consistently do you get these effects? And when you don’t wear it are you still confident to approach beautiful women or are you more shy? > 🆒 IShine is very effective to moderate [P75](https://a314.com/product/p75/). Needs to be reapplied after 3 hours. Consistency? 100%. ---
**Author:** ![Evilcalyptic](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/evilcalyptic/32/1567_2.png) [@Evilcalyptic](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Evilcalyptic)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2013, 5:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-p75-help-with-sad-social-anxiety-disorder/57724/13 "2013-01-02T17:56:58Z")
> [@dsouza](#): > > Correct me if I’m wrong but P130 is only available in summer ammo right now NOT? > > If I am wrong please let me know where in the store I can find it.. i searched and couldn’t locate it. I just got a free to go today of p130 i guess for buying some A314 ---
**Author:** ![dsouza](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dsouza/32/840_2.png) [@dsouza](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dsouza)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2013, 6:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-p75-help-with-sad-social-anxiety-disorder/57724/14 "2013-01-02T18:25:52Z")
Today I tried [Summer Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) , p75 after a week off and went out to the mall alone.. noticed I was rather lucid.. I guess this is p75 taking its usual few hours to kick on properly. By the time I got home I was feeling rather anxious so I thought I’d try 1 spray of p74 at 10 mcg to relax me. I went out to dinner with SO and was very talkative and social. I noticed i was in a great mood. But I noticed other like the waiters etc were rather ignoring us the whole night except for the bill.. Service was slow.. Why? Did they sense I like to talk. Were they intimidated by the mix? They were indian.. It was bombay bhel restaurant. Then I went out to the mall. Felt awesome and energtic and like talked to my SO forever.. But we both noticed others in stores we entered (the hosts) not to friendly or energetic whereas the same people always are when we go there.. This happened in 3 stores I frequent.. the same kinda I’ll stay out of your way and hardly try to sell you my product (no pushiness). Then during the walks down the malls eyes i made eye contact with a few people (women) and they all either had no looks at me, dirty looks like as if they were angry or jealous of who I was with, or frowning. Lots of puzzled looks too. I felt no OD. . Neither did my SO. Can someone who has worn this out before kinda explain what just happened? I’m still trying to piece things together and I can’t! ---
**Author:** ![monesmadedoit](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/monesmadedoit/32/325_2.png) [@monesmadedoit](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/monesmadedoit)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2013, 9:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-p75-help-with-sad-social-anxiety-disorder/57724/15 "2013-01-02T21:58:16Z")
> [@dsouza](#): > > Today I tried Summer Ammo , p75 after a week off and went out to the mall alone.. noticed I was rather lucid.. I guess this is p75 taking its usual few hours to kick on properly. > > By the time I got home I was feeling rather anxious so I thought I’d try 1 spray of p74 at 10 mcg to relax me. > > I went out to dinner with SO and was very talkative and social. I noticed i was in a great mood. But I noticed other like the waiters etc were rather ignoring us the whole night except for the bill.. Service was slow.. Why? Did they sense I like to talk. Were they intimidated by the mix? They were indian.. It was bombay bhel restaurant. > > Then I went out to the mall. Felt awesome and energtic and like talked to my SO forever.. But we both noticed others in stores we entered (the hosts) not to friendly or energetic whereas the same people always are when we go there.. This happened in 3 stores I frequent.. the same kinda I’ll stay out of your way and hardly try to sell you my product (no pushiness). > > Then during the walks down the malls eyes i made eye contact with a few people (women) and they all either had no looks at me, dirty looks like as if they were angry or jealous of who I was with, or frowning. Lots of puzzled looks too. > > I felt no OD. . Neither did my SO. Can someone who has worn this out before kinda explain what just happened? I’m still trying to piece things together and I can’t! If harshness is breaking through with P75 and affecting women, lower to 5 mcg or increase buffering with P83, IShine, IO or perhaps [P74](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p74/). Anything that is “nice.” P75 is not “nice.” P75 is powerful. Too much power is misinterpreted as anti-social. You need more socials. ---
**Author:** ![eibmoz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bc8723/32.png) [@eibmoz](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/eibmoz)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2013, 1:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-p75-help-with-sad-social-anxiety-disorder/57724/16 "2013-01-03T01:08:18Z")
I find 2.5 mcg of [P75](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p75/) or AndrostAnone helps against anxiety. ---
**Author:** ![dsouza](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dsouza/32/840_2.png) [@dsouza](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dsouza)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2013, 1:29am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-p75-help-with-sad-social-anxiety-disorder/57724/17 "2013-01-03T01:29:40Z")
> [@monesmadedoit](#): > > If harshness is breaking through with P75 and affecting women, lower to 5 mcg or increase buffering with P83, IShine, IO or perhaps P74. Anything that is “nice.” P75 is not “nice.” P75 is powerful. Too much power is misinterpreted as anti-social. You need more socials. I only used 2.5 mcg of p75 an amount that always agreed with me in the past. I dare not go over 10 mcg of p74 as I could feel very very beta with it on. Like best buddy man and not a stud. Perhaps this combo doesn’t deliver for me. I’m going to change to IS, reg AMMO, p75 and IO (Coolkats combo and retest!) ---
**Author:** ![Mysterion](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mysterion/32/986_2.png) [@Mysterion](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mysterion)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2013, 2:18am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-p75-help-with-sad-social-anxiety-disorder/57724/18 "2013-01-03T02:18:42Z")
> [@dsouza](#): > > I dare not go over 10 mcg of p74 as I could feel very very beta with it on. Keep in mind that P74 is a rapport building molecule and if you got too much rapport youre the best friend -\> friendzone. Buffer it with some attraction spiking molecules like Androstenone or [P75](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p75/) and it should work! ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2013, 4:53am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-p75-help-with-sad-social-anxiety-disorder/57724/19 "2013-01-03T04:53:53Z")
> [@Mysterion](#): > > Keep in mind that P74 is a rapport building molecule and if you got too much rapport youre the best friend -\> friendzone. Buffer it with some attraction spiking molecules like Androstenone or P75 and it should work! Yup, I find it best to keep the [P74](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p74/) fairly low in a normal/balanced mix - up to around 20mcg, except a very overt one where you can go a fair bit higher - up to @60mcg. In fact, I’ve found 30-50mcg P74 pretty good at moderating 2x TUTH for use even in daytime. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![dsouza](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dsouza/32/840_2.png) [@dsouza](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dsouza)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2013, 5:34am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-p75-help-with-sad-social-anxiety-disorder/57724/20 "2013-01-03T05:34:18Z")
Ahh maybe next time I’ll throw in some tuth in there!!! [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-p75-help-with-sad-social-anxiety-disorder/57724.md?page=2)