# Does P83 have -none in it? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [March 6, 2009, 4:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-p83-have-none-in-it/26785 "2009-03-06T04:25:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![M\_P](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/m_p/32/1633_2.png) [@M\_P](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_P)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2009, 4:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-p83-have-none-in-it/26785/1 "2009-03-06T04:25:19Z")
Does [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) have -none in it? ---
**Author:** ![ariadne](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ariadne/32/770_2.png) [@ariadne](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ariadne)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2009, 4:43am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-p83-have-none-in-it/26785/2 "2009-03-06T04:43:22Z")
[P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/) just has P83 in it. 😕 ---
**Author:** ![M\_P](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/m_p/32/1633_2.png) [@M\_P](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_P)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2009, 4:56am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-p83-have-none-in-it/26785/3 "2009-03-06T04:56:30Z")
lol alright I’ll accept that. I was curious whether or not I should be using it with TUTH ---
**Author:** ![ariadne](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ariadne/32/770_2.png) [@ariadne](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ariadne)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2009, 4:58am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-p83-have-none-in-it/26785/4 "2009-03-06T04:58:27Z")
> [@M\_P](#): > > lol alright I’ll accept that. I was curious whether or not I should be using it with TUTH Oh, sure. I think quite a few people have (women included). 😉 ---
**Author:** ![M\_P](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/m_p/32/1633_2.png) [@M\_P](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_P)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2009, 5:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-p83-have-none-in-it/26785/5 "2009-03-06T05:02:40Z")
Thanks for your help. ---
**Author:** ![ariadne](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ariadne/32/770_2.png) [@ariadne](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ariadne)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2009, 5:06am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-p83-have-none-in-it/26785/6 "2009-03-06T05:06:16Z")
🙂 You’re welcome! I didn’t do too much, though… 😛 ---
**Author:** ![M\_P](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/m_p/32/1633_2.png) [@M\_P](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_P)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2009, 5:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-p83-have-none-in-it/26785/7 "2009-03-06T05:07:32Z")
Well it’s appreciated nonetheless 😛 ---
**Author:** ![ntk23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/65b543/32.png) [@ntk23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ntk23)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2009, 5:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-p83-have-none-in-it/26785/8 "2009-03-06T05:59:07Z")
also, [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) was discussed as a potential substitute for -none, with the thought that it could replicate the positive effects of -none without the negative: > [@Petition for an Ammo version with P83 instead of -none](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/petition-for-an-ammo-version-with-p83-instead-of-none/189823): > > Heyho guys! I really like the idea of an all-in-one product like [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) that you can apply and then leave without fiddling around with tons of bottles. The thing is: My tolerance for androstenone is dropping and it seems I’m already slightly ODing with two sprays (at least I’m sure I OD’ed this last weekend with two sprays only). That’s not a problem with buildup, because I’m not using -none products often. So, P83 is said to have -none-like sexual effects without the negative sides. What do you… I haven’t found much effects from p83 myself. Although I haven’t had much time to conduct any tests recently - ain’t posted for a while either! I should try a megadose sometime like River did in this thread: > [@P83/CTTM/MX134/ISx20 cops-They were falling over themselves, literally!](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-cttm-mx134-isx20-cops-they-were-falling-over-themselves-literally/21564): > > Yesterday, I left work early because I wanted to buy a treadmill since my old one broke frowning It was mid-afternoon and I had just re-applied my pheros at work. I re-applied: 1 spray ISx20 cops (hair) (30ml bottle) 4 sprays CTTM (2 hair, chest, back of neck, wrists)(TOGO size) 4 sprays MX134 (2 hair, chest, both sides of neck (TOGO size)(damn-I’m out now!) With this particular mix, I’ve had no problem at work getting what I request. Everyone seems to treat me with respect, have come more… The only thing I can think of out of the ordinary while wearing p83 is that (on 2 occasions) young children were intently staring at me while I was out and about, like I was a Teletubby or something 🙂 Apart from that, very little has happened. I went up to 60 mcg. I will replicate River’s 150mcg soon! ---
**Author:** ![M\_P](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/m_p/32/1633_2.png) [@M\_P](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_P)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2009, 6:10am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-p83-have-none-in-it/26785/9 "2009-03-06T06:10:53Z")
Could it also mean that [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/) might enhance and/or buffer the effects of none? ---
**Author:** ![tfrankz](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tfrankz/32/468_2.png) [@tfrankz](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tfrankz)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2009, 6:50am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-p83-have-none-in-it/26785/10 "2009-03-06T06:50:22Z")
Go out to a bar/club wear [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/) and TUTH. It will be a very fun night most times after you stay in a spot for alittle. The girls dance and depends where, they pull there top up playing or show the head lights. I don’t put that on anymore because It’s not good for picking up the ladies. You have to fight to keep them with you!!! ---
**Author:** ![tangent](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tangent/32/5178_2.png) [@tangent](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tangent)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2009, 6:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-p83-have-none-in-it/26785/11 "2009-03-06T18:57:15Z")
[P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) + TUTH + CTTM is the most reliable and strongest mix I’ve used to date to get the ladies interested It has a lot of immediacy to it and definitely lowers inhibitions in women that feel an attraction to you. I have a feeling it might need something extra to build in a more lasting, memorable effect but for short term explosiveness it takes some beating. ---
**Author:** ![renny](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/renny/32/2104_2.png) [@renny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/renny)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2009, 7:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-p83-have-none-in-it/26785/12 "2009-03-06T19:08:03Z")
M P, P83 is one of the puative [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/), hence the P designation. That means it may or may not be a pheromone but it has a chemical structure similar to many pheromones. P83 is a favorite because there have been a lot of reports on it but it still needs more research and it would be great if you would use it alone and in combination with other products. Then make up your own mind about the best ways to use it and give us your opinion about it. When dealing with the P series take everything as if it was brand new. Have fun!