# Does P83 have -none in it? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [March 6, 2009, 4:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-p83-have-none-in-it/26785 "2009-03-06T04:25:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 8
**Author:** ![ntk23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/65b543/32.png) [@ntk23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ntk23)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2009, 5:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-p83-have-none-in-it/26785/8 "2009-03-06T05:59:07Z")
also, [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) was discussed as a potential substitute for -none, with the thought that it could replicate the positive effects of -none without the negative: > [@Petition for an Ammo version with P83 instead of -none](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/petition-for-an-ammo-version-with-p83-instead-of-none/189823): > > Heyho guys! I really like the idea of an all-in-one product like [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) that you can apply and then leave without fiddling around with tons of bottles. The thing is: My tolerance for androstenone is dropping and it seems I’m already slightly ODing with two sprays (at least I’m sure I OD’ed this last weekend with two sprays only). That’s not a problem with buildup, because I’m not using -none products often. So, P83 is said to have -none-like sexual effects without the negative sides. What do you… I haven’t found much effects from p83 myself. Although I haven’t had much time to conduct any tests recently - ain’t posted for a while either! I should try a megadose sometime like River did in this thread: > [@P83/CTTM/MX134/ISx20 cops-They were falling over themselves, literally!](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-cttm-mx134-isx20-cops-they-were-falling-over-themselves-literally/21564): > > Yesterday, I left work early because I wanted to buy a treadmill since my old one broke frowning It was mid-afternoon and I had just re-applied my pheros at work. I re-applied: 1 spray ISx20 cops (hair) (30ml bottle) 4 sprays CTTM (2 hair, chest, back of neck, wrists)(TOGO size) 4 sprays MX134 (2 hair, chest, both sides of neck (TOGO size)(damn-I’m out now!) With this particular mix, I’ve had no problem at work getting what I request. Everyone seems to treat me with respect, have come more… The only thing I can think of out of the ordinary while wearing p83 is that (on 2 occasions) young children were intently staring at me while I was out and about, like I was a Teletubby or something 🙂 Apart from that, very little has happened. I went up to 60 mcg. I will replicate River’s 150mcg soon! --- _[View the full topic](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-p83-have-none-in-it/26785)._