# Does sweat wash off the pheromones that are applied on your skin? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [February 23, 2010, 10:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-sweat-wash-off-the-pheromones-that-are-applied-on-your-skin/36490 "2010-02-23T22:57:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![pheromones824](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/b38774/32.png) [@pheromones824](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/pheromones824)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2010, 10:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-sweat-wash-off-the-pheromones-that-are-applied-on-your-skin/36490/1 "2010-02-23T22:57:16Z")
if you are working out in the gym or running, and you are sweating, will the [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/) still work? i assume that the pheromones will not be sweated away and should still work to a degree. Why else would i see other people here on the forum wear pheromones to the gym? Also, is it true that when you shower, the pheromones that are on your body will wash off? ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2010, 11:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-sweat-wash-off-the-pheromones-that-are-applied-on-your-skin/36490/2 "2010-02-23T23:21:34Z")
Here’s the deal: a good sweat tends to mingle and interact with artificial mones. And, depending on your body chemistry, this can be good or bad. Whatever, it will be unique. First many mones breakdown and change to other forms when exposed to sweat and skin bacteria. For example, A1 morphs to androstenol. In turn, androstenol changes to androstenone. Under ideal conditions–lots of sweat and body heat–this can happen in as little as 20 minutes. I avoid applying to sweat parts of my body for this very reason. The worse is yet to come. Androstenone eventually breaks down but, unlike A1 & nol, doesn’t become anything useful when subject to sweat and skin bacteria. It becomes a rank 'n funky odor worse than 5 day old roadkill. Test this terrible truth by spraying androstenone in your armpit and working out for an hour (NPA, TE or TUTH will do). You won’t have to stick your nose in your pit to smell it. Everybody in the room will drink your sweetness. On a hot day no workout is need, just normal activity, and pits from hell will be enabled. ---
**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2010, 12:33am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-sweat-wash-off-the-pheromones-that-are-applied-on-your-skin/36490/3 "2010-02-24T00:33:39Z")
In the past, I have worn AMMO , A314 or IG to workouts and sweated a lot. I did get great responses from all three. A314 + my sweat from a bit older women 22+ -\> fascination ; IG or AMMO + my sweat = great response from 16 to 30 -\> strong interest… I wonder what other hundreds of pheromones I have that were mixes pretty well with the artificial ones, haha ---
**Author:** ![deeddy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/deeddy/32/1779_2.png) [@deeddy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/deeddy)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2010, 6:37am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-sweat-wash-off-the-pheromones-that-are-applied-on-your-skin/36490/4 "2010-02-24T06:37:07Z")
> [@CoolKatDC](#): > > In the past, I have worn AMMO , A314 or IG to workouts and sweated a lot. I did get great responses from all three. A314 + my sweat from a bit older women 22+ -\> fascination ; IG or AMMO + my sweat = great response from 16 to 30 -\> strong interest… I wonder what other hundreds of pheromones I have that were mixes pretty well with the artificial ones, haha a314 + fresh sweat = kicks ass! i tend to get some spicy sexy vibes from females of all ages… 😃 ---
**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2010, 2:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-sweat-wash-off-the-pheromones-that-are-applied-on-your-skin/36490/5 "2010-02-24T14:58:54Z")
who are u? Why are u copying my style? lol ---
**Author:** ![deeddy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/deeddy/32/1779_2.png) [@deeddy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/deeddy)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2010, 11:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-sweat-wash-off-the-pheromones-that-are-applied-on-your-skin/36490/6 "2010-02-24T23:53:42Z")
> [@CoolKatDC](#): > > who are u? Why are u copying my style? lol your signature was completelly different and very alpha, so it was not an attempt to copy you, but an attempt to make a tribute. this is a direct compliment to you! i hope there’s no hard feelings! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2010, 1:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-sweat-wash-off-the-pheromones-that-are-applied-on-your-skin/36490/7 "2010-02-25T01:15:47Z")
I don’t know how that is “Alpha” but I am glad you like my style 😃. Thanks. So u live in Serbia? I know some girls from Bulgaria and Czech Republic… I think those countries are near Serbia ---
**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2010, 3:20am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-sweat-wash-off-the-pheromones-that-are-applied-on-your-skin/36490/8 "2010-02-25T03:20:40Z")
> [@Gegogi](#): > > Here’s the deal: a good sweat tends to mingle and interact with artificial mones. And, depending on your body chemistry, this can be good or bad. Whatever, it will be unique. First many mones breakdown and change to other forms when exposed to sweat and skin bacteria. For example, A1 morphs to androstenol. In turn, androstenol changes to androstenone. Under ideal conditions–lots of sweat and body heat–this can happen in as little as 20 minutes. I avoid applying to sweat parts of my body for this very reason. > > The worse is yet to come. Androstenone eventually breaks down but, unlike A1 & nol, doesn’t become anything useful when subject to sweat and skin bacteria. It becomes a rank 'n funky odor worse than 5 day old roadkill. Test this terrible truth by spraying androstenone in your armpit and working out for an hour (NPA, TE or TUTH will do). You won’t have to stick your nose in your pit to smell it. Everybody in the room will drink your sweetness. On a hot day no workout is need, just normal activity, and pits from hell will be enabled. I’ve learned some very interesting things since posting here but this is probably THE most interesting little nugget yet, particularly from the standpoint of symbiotic relationships between species and evolutionary biology. It makes perfect sense. A1 is the most abundant [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) produced by humans and has a calming, comforting effect on women…which would be an ideal start since ancient humans would no doubt want the woman to be in a relaxed mood during the initial approach. Which would ironically be stage A1 of the Mystery Method style of pickup. As fear, nervous tension and approach anxiety kick in for the male however, his heart rate and body temp elevates and he perspires more. This provides an ideal climate for the bacteria we naturally carry to go to work converting A1 to nols. So the woman is comfortable and is now being hit with mones designed for communication…this would be ideal during stages A2-C2 of the MM game. But those bacteria are still at it, converting those Nols into None. Communicating the mans sexual interest and fitness, taking him through C3 to S3 of pickup. ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2010, 5:21am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-sweat-wash-off-the-pheromones-that-are-applied-on-your-skin/36490/9 "2010-02-25T05:21:04Z")
You forgot the most important stage, stage 4 (C4?): androstenone morphing into rank BO and repelling the woman after you’ve satisfied yourself and planted seed. ---
**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2010, 2:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-sweat-wash-off-the-pheromones-that-are-applied-on-your-skin/36490/10 "2010-02-25T14:50:02Z")
Well that would eliminate the need to gnaw off your own arm to get away while she’s sleeping. ---
**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2010, 2:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-sweat-wash-off-the-pheromones-that-are-applied-on-your-skin/36490/11 "2010-02-26T14:27:06Z")
LMAO! negative rep points for a sarcastic joke! Including being told I’d be kicked into next week for trying what I advocate! I’ve advocated among other heinous crimes, Not relying too much on pheromones as a cure all for personal problems. Working on ones self, Not being needy or overly obsessed with one woman. Developing ones own confidence, social skills, social circle and working on becoming a more well rounded person…she’s right, I’m an absolute cad. No need for [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) today, this will put a smile on my face for the next 24 hours at least! ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2010, 2:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-sweat-wash-off-the-pheromones-that-are-applied-on-your-skin/36490/12 "2010-02-26T14:37:26Z")
> [@RADMAN513](#): > > Well that would eliminate the need to gnaw off your own arm to get away while she’s sleeping. Yeah, I hate having to do that. If all else fails, fart and eat spam and crackers in bed… ---
**Author:** ![pheromones824](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/b38774/32.png) [@pheromones824](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/pheromones824)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2010, 6:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-sweat-wash-off-the-pheromones-that-are-applied-on-your-skin/36490/13 "2010-03-21T18:51:42Z")
> [@Gegogi](#): > > Here’s the deal: a good sweat tends to mingle and interact with artificial mones. And, depending on your body chemistry, this can be good or bad. Whatever, it will be unique. First many mones breakdown and change to other forms when exposed to sweat and skin bacteria. For example, A1 morphs to androstenol. In turn, androstenol changes to androstenone. Under ideal conditions–lots of sweat and body heat–this can happen in as little as 20 minutes. I avoid applying to sweat parts of my body for this very reason. > > The worse is yet to come. Androstenone eventually breaks down but, unlike A1 & nol, doesn’t become anything useful when subject to sweat and skin bacteria. It becomes a rank 'n funky odor worse than 5 day old roadkill. Test this terrible truth by spraying androstenone in your armpit and working out for an hour (NPA, TE or TUTH will do). You won’t have to stick your nose in your pit to smell it. Everybody in the room will drink your sweetness. On a hot day no workout is need, just normal activity, and pits from hell will be enabled. I have read people who have applied TUTH to themselves to “turn the heat on” with a girl in order to turn the girl on enough to have sex. if u apply TUTH before sex, and during sex you become sweaty, doesn’t that turn Androstenone into some stinky roadkill smell? ---
**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2010, 7:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-sweat-wash-off-the-pheromones-that-are-applied-on-your-skin/36490/14 "2010-03-21T19:13:02Z")
I only recently started wearing mones myself, so my first summer wearing pheromones is still to come, living in central cali where 110 degree days are not uncommon for june/july it will be interesting to say the least. One thing I’m hoping will help is the use of a good antibacterial soap containing triclosan. Hopefully by reducing my natural skin bacteria as much as possible (you’ll never totally get rid of it) I can buy myself some time and have my mones last as long as possible without too much conversion. I’m optimistic because bacteria feeding on dead skin and oils are the same thing that cause natural body odor and when I started using AB soap, I noticed it took quite a bit longer for that to happen. We’ll see. ---
**Author:** ![snorida45x](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5f9b8f/32.png) [@snorida45x](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/snorida45x)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2010, 7:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-sweat-wash-off-the-pheromones-that-are-applied-on-your-skin/36490/15 "2010-03-21T19:31:11Z")
> [@Gegogi](#): > > Here’s the deal: a good sweat tends to mingle and interact with artificial mones. And, depending on your body chemistry, this can be good or bad. Whatever, it will be unique. First many mones breakdown and change to other forms when exposed to sweat and skin bacteria. For example, A1 morphs to androstenol. In turn, androstenol changes to androstenone. Under ideal conditions–lots of sweat and body heat–this can happen in as little as 20 minutes. I avoid applying to sweat parts of my body for this very reason. So when nols actually change over to none, how much none is produced? For instance, if I applied x4 CTTM2 in addition to x2 TUTH and I was sweating quite a bit, would this eventually lead to OD after the skin bacteria has changed the nols to none? I had an interesting experience at a nightclub (which I posted about), where I got really good hits in the beginning of the night (my mix was x4 CTTM2, 10mcg TAC, x2 TUTH applied to the neck). Then later in evening after I was sweating a lot from dancing, I didn’t get many hits at all. I’m curious if my sweat may have lead to an OD later in the evening. Thanks.