# Don't be afraid of None

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dont-be-afraid-of-none/49835>\
**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [April 13, 2011, 2:30am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dont-be-afraid-of-none/49835 "2011-04-13T02:30:56Z")\
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**Author:** ![unknown0001](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/unknown0001/32/559_2.png) [@unknown0001](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/unknown0001)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2011, 2:30am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dont-be-afraid-of-none/49835/1 "2011-04-13T02:30:56Z")

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I think I read Mustang say that recently.

Lately I’ve kinda gone none crazy. Prior to this I never used it much or tried to go reeeeeal easy on thing like TUTH or [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/), unless it was the right moment at the right time.

But now I’m kinda pressing more. FOR INSTANCE.

Every wise man knows you don’t shit where you eat, especially if you’re in a band with a women and shes the band leader.

But for kicks I’ve been adding Ammo to my A314, IH, p83 mix.

Both times, i got LOTS of touching from her, now shes 24, white liberal minded.

I wouldn;t even THINK of actually doing anything with her EVER, as it’s a business Ive invested money in “the band” i mean. But this girl is very adament about how she only like guys who are “cut” and “chisled” and “hot” etc…you minded in that way. So i thought Okay I’m 34 …not exactly chisled or cut…and at least those little things have begun to happen…and you can feel chemistry too happening. I will never say anything and she prolly never would either, so it’s my little secret, but very fun to watch.

It’s been twice that I’ve add Ammo to A314, IH IS & p83 ..both times lots of great easy laughter (p83) & (IS) ofcourse…and I am persuasive as well, they look up to me a bit when it comes to the “business” part of the band. Anyhoo i think I’m rambling.

Another test today.

3 sprays of TUTH, 10mcg of p86 & 10mcg of TAF.

Go to the grocery and as expected every women over 50 in the grocery, has to turn and look at me…every one. yuck, all of them, but hahah…i like the attention and the consiteny i get with TUTH…now on my way back home

I met up with my downstairs neighbor…black, 30 hot female married with kid. and we stopped for a second to talk, but …kinda felt close to her all of a sudden, i sat on the stairs and we talked about some sensitive stuff.

Not sure if that was TAF but definetly was a bit different of a feeling. Anyway..point it PLAY with None…dont be scared, once you’ve got a handle on it you can wear it in places you wouldn’t normally wear it.

Peace

Happytaps

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**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2011, 5:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dont-be-afraid-of-none/49835/2 "2011-04-21T17:35:25Z")

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LOL, you bad man you. None is some good stuff in the right combo and can be outright dangerous in some situations. Never a good idea to shit where you eat though 🙂

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**Author:** ![unknown0001](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/unknown0001/32/559_2.png) [@unknown0001](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/unknown0001)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2011, 5:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dont-be-afraid-of-none/49835/3 "2011-04-21T17:39:53Z")

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> [@Steve](#):
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> LOL, you bad man you. None is some good stuff in the right combo and can be outright dangerous in some situations. Never a good idea to shit where you eat though 🙂

Yeah, and just the pther day, the hot black 30 yr mother, asked me to pick up her laundry, so I did.

She texts me that night something which I’m not gonna say on here as, if her husband found out.. I’d be DEAD MEAT! 😮

anyway shes been reeeeeeeal friendly ever since that day. reeeeeeeeeeeal friendly.

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**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2011, 6:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dont-be-afraid-of-none/49835/4 "2011-04-21T18:00:03Z")

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Hmmm now I might have to come and see you play, check this pretty lady out with my chiseled bod.

BTW this was a mix I used (Be prepared)  
A314 2x  
IJ 2x  
[P75](https://a314.com/product/p75/) 5mcg  
P79 10mcg

Post #762 on my Journal

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**Author:** ![unknown0001](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/unknown0001/32/559_2.png) [@unknown0001](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/unknown0001)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2011, 6:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dont-be-afraid-of-none/49835/5 "2011-04-21T18:03:30Z")

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> [@P51Mustang](#):
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> Hmmm now I might have to come and see you play, check this pretty lady out with my chiseled bod.
> 
> BTW this was a mix I used (Be prepared)  
> A314 2x  
> IJ 2x  
> P75 5mcg  
> P79 10mcg
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> Post #762 on my Journal

hahahaha…man Id love to see that…all this time i only see results from me, but Id love to see someone else with mones…i don’t know anyone else who uses them.

i gotta try that mix…

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**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2011, 6:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dont-be-afraid-of-none/49835/6 "2011-04-21T18:48:24Z")

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> [@happytappin](#):
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> hahahaha…man Id love to see that…all this time i only see results from me, but Id love to see someone else with mones…i don’t know anyone else who uses them.
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> i gotta try that mix…

Be careful with the mix lol

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**Author:** ![thegentleman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/thegentleman/32/1770_2.png) [@thegentleman](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/thegentleman)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2011, 6:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dont-be-afraid-of-none/49835/7 "2011-04-21T18:57:25Z")

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> [@P51Mustang](#):
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> Be careful with the mix lol

LOL read the report, it looked interesting and then I thought…woah nelly, I get myself into enough trouble with a bit too much IJ so not right now.

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**Author:** ![YungC](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/yungc/32/513_2.png) [@YungC](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/YungC)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2014, 11:29am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dont-be-afraid-of-none/49835/8 "2014-06-28T11:29:43Z")

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45mcg TUTH in a supermarket and you weren’t ghosted??

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**Author:** ![leon333](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/leon333/32/539_2.png) [@leon333](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/leon333)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2014, 11:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dont-be-afraid-of-none/49835/9 "2014-06-28T23:34:13Z")

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enone is the core molecule for sexual attraction.very important phero but can be VERY lethal,combine with erone and the effects intensify.i used to wear A314+NPA and i intimidated the crap out of the boys.this can be dangerous around the wrong crew.also an ex latino green berret felt fear and submissive in my presence.at high dose I repel women bad,they think im a rapist.none is some good shit,moderation is the key

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**Author:** ![YungC](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/yungc/32/513_2.png) [@YungC](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/YungC)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2014, 11:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dont-be-afraid-of-none/49835/10 "2014-06-28T23:36:46Z")

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> [@leon333](#):
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> at high dose I repel women bad,they think im a rapist.

Hahahah. Did they openly express this, Leon?

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**Post date:** [June 29, 2014, 9:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dont-be-afraid-of-none/49835/11 "2014-06-29T09:46:05Z")

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> [@YungC](#):
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> Hahahah. Did they openly express this, Leon?

Yes - Get your mix balance seriously wrong and you will come-off as all shades of creepy/sexually oppressive/aggressive to many women and they will let you know. Others will just lap it up it though. 🙂

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**Author:** ![lwatkins](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lwatkins/32/472_2.png) [@lwatkins](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/lwatkins)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2014, 9:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dont-be-afraid-of-none/49835/12 "2014-06-29T21:11:46Z")

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> [@happytappin](#):
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> But this girl is very adament about how she only like guys who are “cut” and “chisled” and “hot” etc…you minded in that way. So i thought Okay I’m 34 …not exactly chisled or cut…and at least those little things have begun to happen…and you can feel chemistry too happening. I will never say anything and she prolly never would either, so it’s my little secret, but very fun to watch.

You haven’t got it quite right. I hear a lot of self-disqualifying here. It’s her job the figure out why she can’t get closer to you. You should be focused offering her cover stories in case she wants the same thing you do, which she might, especially when she’s smelling something persuasive. The way it works is girls make a visual association with what they saw when they looked at a guy when they encountered natural pheros in the past that stimulated them emotionally. So they return to the good emotions, and they are linked to the visuals that they remember seeing. It is the pheros that caused the emotions, the visuals and behavior is just an association that is formed as a secondary. So if you wear pheros that make them feel strong feelings again, they will make new memories that associate whatever they are seeing when they are in your presence. Secondaries can change. When a woman makes an exception to her rules, she will think it’s because there is something special about you.

Short of a prior legal or moral commitment, like being married or having kids to look out for, i would advise you to go after whatever girls you find most appealing. I would thing proximity, such as similar jobs, bands, clubs, etc. would be the best predictor of pairing up. If you look at her and it turns you on, let her know. If you end up slapping her rear while “just being playful” with her, blame it on the way she makes you feel looking at her, being around her etc… You can’t help it! When you use emotional language, she will tune in to her own emotions, and realize how you are making her feel too.

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**Author:** ![lwatkins](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lwatkins/32/472_2.png) [@lwatkins](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/lwatkins)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2014, 9:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dont-be-afraid-of-none/49835/13 "2014-06-29T21:29:02Z")

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> [@happytappin](#):
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> Yeah, and just the pther day, the hot black 30 yr mother, asked me to pick up her laundry, so I did.
> 
> She texts me that night something which I’m not gonna say on here as, if her husband found out.. I’d be DEAD MEAT! 😮
> 
> anyway shes been reeeeeeeal friendly ever since that day. reeeeeeeeeeeal friendly.

Sound like what she’s asking from you is flexibility / support roll, with attraction. So you can fill in her emotional needs which are unmet in this way, by doing little errands for her. You are making emotional deposits in her bank account, which helps lift any block on the attraction she’s feeling. Keep doing that. Give without any expectation of a return. Good for your own psychology. Make friendly physical contact only since she is married… Upper arm, shoulder, upper back. No lower back or hand-holding. no face / hair touching, etc. It’s fun to learn exactly how far you can flirt without going over the line.

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**Author:** ![YungC](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/yungc/32/513_2.png) [@YungC](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/YungC)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2014, 11:56am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dont-be-afraid-of-none/49835/14 "2014-06-30T11:56:58Z")

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Iwatkins, you really think lower back touching is crossing the line.

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**Author:** ![lwatkins](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lwatkins/32/472_2.png) [@lwatkins](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/lwatkins)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2014, 1:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dont-be-afraid-of-none/49835/15 "2014-06-30T13:33:10Z")

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Going from upper back to lower back is enough to cause jellousy in others. It suggests some level of ownership and control. Partners do lower back to guard their mate in the presence of others, and to direct said partner. Upper back is just a “bro” hug, you can get away with that in the office.
