# Dosage question + hormone difference **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [September 12, 2017, 5:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dosage-question-hormone-difference/67386 "2017-09-12T17:47:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![michaeltheman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@michaeltheman](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/michaeltheman)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2017, 5:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dosage-question-hormone-difference/67386/1 "2017-09-12T17:47:14Z")
Each day I go without ejaculation I produce more [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/) naturally, I am wondering how this will interfere with these synthethic pheromones. Also how long will spray - pheromones last on me ? I bought 3 of the To Go as a first timer just to try out the products - the Alpha 3\* something, IH and Ammo (world). I’ve already received DIHL and sexual attraction from female colleagues when on longer (2+ weeks) semen retention streaks, through natural pheromones. What should I try with and on what body part? Can I combine all 3 or is this too much? Maybe 1 spray of Alpha 3\* and 1 spray of IH? Or combine Ammo with IH or Ammo+Alpha. I’d like the alpha self effects so probably spray it on my neck or jaw, then the IH or ammo on my wrist ? ---
**Author:** ![Jdub](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jdub/32/1399_2.png) [@Jdub](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jdub)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2017, 5:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dosage-question-hormone-difference/67386/2 "2017-09-12T17:59:58Z")
> [@michaeltheman](#): > > Each day I go without ejaculation I produce more pheromones naturally, I am wondering how this will interfere with these synthethic pheromones. This will interfere greatly. A synthetic combo worn one day may not work the same the next. > [@](#): > > Also how long will spray - pheromones last on me ? I bought 3 of the To Go as a first timer just to try out the products - the Alpha 3\* something, IH and Ammo (world). [Spray pheromones](https://a314.com/product-category/spray-pheromones/) tend to last on average around 4-6 hours. +/- depending on factors including environment, temp, humid, etc. > [@](#): > > What should I try with and on what body part? Can I combine all 3 or is this too much? Maybe 1 spray of Alpha 3\* and 1 spray of IH? Or combine Ammo with IH or Ammo+Alpha. > > I’d like the alpha self effects so probably spray it on my neck or jaw, then the IH or ammo on my wrist ? yes this should work just fine One more friendly piece of advice… a314 and ammo contain androstenone and androstenone is very sticky and sometimes doesn’t wash off the skin so easily sometimes it’s still very easy to smell even after the shower. And this could skew your results when applying mones after showering. Just bear in mind when scrubbing ENone containing products. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2017, 6:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dosage-question-hormone-difference/67386/3 "2017-09-12T18:01:59Z")
Don’t get too hung up on Application points. The App points sticky has lots of good advice but so long as it has a good circulation to help promote natural diffusion and open to the air to breathe, then its viable. Personally I find the centre (neck throat) better for sexuals and status products as you want the impact to increase as they get physically closer to you but social/steering mones can be used more widely. Wrists/forearms if clothing allows are favourite spots of mine. Have a feel around for the warmest bits. Don’t get sidelined with application under clothing and the like, this is something for very young guys around young women. They need to slow the impact down a good bit, wheras us more mature guys need all the help we can get! 🙂 Life of mones does vary on the skin. Partly because of the levels of bacteria that break them down and individual mones break down at different rates but you should et a solid six hours out of all of these, also clean skin and nonsweaty areas are best and a little bit of quality lotion can help buffer against breakdown too but this is best for oils, sprays only gain a little bit extra. Dosing , see my other post about tthe importance of testing. You will need to keep notes and track how doses work at different stages of your abstention cycle. IIRC if its any help, all the science I’ve read on this suggests that maximum benefit is obtained after 4 or 5 days, then it tailsoff. So you may not need to prolong matters and it will make your dose range more managable. ---
**Author:** ![michaeltheman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@michaeltheman](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/michaeltheman)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2017, 6:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dosage-question-hormone-difference/67386/4 "2017-09-12T18:08:30Z")
> [@Jdub](#): > > This will interfere greatly. A synthetic combo worn one day may not work the same the next. > > Spray pheromones tend to last on average around 4-6 hours. +/- depending on factors including environment, temp, humid, etc. > > yes this should work just fine > > One more friendly piece of advice… a314 and ammo contain androstenone and androstenone is very sticky and sometimes doesn’t wash off the skin so easily sometimes it’s still very easy to smell even after the shower. And this could skew your results when applying mones after showering. Just bear in mind when scrubbing ENone containing products. Thanks a lot for your invaluable advices! If these mones work on me I’ll be dropping 500$ on mones, I’m very interested in trying your “Mix 1”- stack. Any advice on what I should spend 500$ on in terms of mones? Also do I need to combine my own spray bottle for the Hedione in that mix, like you did? ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2017, 6:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dosage-question-hormone-difference/67386/5 "2017-09-12T18:14:13Z")
Do some testing before you decide to spend big money and do a lot of reading before you take our advice blindly. What works well for me may not be so useful for you and we don’t want you wasting a fortune! Saying that, the Newbies intro kit contains a good spread of the different product types and you can use your GC/Signup bonus to offset the costs a bit. Once you have worked your way through that, we could probably give much better targeted advice and you will have a decent grounding in each main type of phero. social, sexual or status.. And for secondary/steering mones, I would consider TAC, P74, P83, P86, P96 and [P130](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p130/) your essentials but don’t get to them till you have done the basic legwork with the better warranted consumer line products first. ---
**Author:** ![Jdub](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jdub/32/1399_2.png) [@Jdub](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jdub)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2017, 6:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dosage-question-hormone-difference/67386/6 "2017-09-12T18:22:58Z")
> [@michaeltheman](#): > > Thanks a lot for your invaluable advices! If these mones work on me I’ll be dropping 500$ on mones, I’m very interested in trying your “Mix 1”- stack. Any advice on what I should spend 500$ on in terms of mones? Also do I need to combine my own spray bottle for the Hedione in that mix, like you did? Hmmm… well it really all depends on your goals. The men’s intro pack basically has everything. If you’re feeling real scientific and creative, there are experimones and putatives which are really fun. Popular ones include [Molecule C](https://a314.com/product/molecule-c/), Molecule A, P96, P83, Mx297 just to name a few. “Mix 1” is based on a tried and true formula around the forum of a ratio of 1:4 TUTH/Molecule C (mcgs). I just found out one day that with the addition of Hedione it took it to a whole new level. You don’t need to make Hedione spray, Hedione oil is like a couple bucks online and you can just dab it on your skin and it will be fine. I just prefer to spray mine over dabbing. Also I noticed a slight difference and that is that with dabbing women dihl way more but are less attached to me, but with the spray it’s less dihl and more attachment. ---
**Author:** ![michaeltheman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@michaeltheman](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/michaeltheman)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2017, 6:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dosage-question-hormone-difference/67386/7 "2017-09-12T18:49:28Z")
Dumb question but how does one make a hedione spray? Are they purchasable like the oil? I rather try the ones that are working great for many first before experimenting myself with mixes. Damn this [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) thing is insane if it works! How can it even be legal and how can not like every male use it? Whats the ratio of men using this you think? I live in sweden and have never heard about this before ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2017, 7:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dosage-question-hormone-difference/67386/8 "2017-09-12T19:36:53Z")
There is plenty of discussion on buying/mixing/using Hedione in the Lounge or Perfume forum - it’s not an AD product, so it’s been kept apart to avoid treading on toes and being deleted. ---
**Author:** ![Jdub](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jdub/32/1399_2.png) [@Jdub](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jdub)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2017, 7:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dosage-question-hormone-difference/67386/9 "2017-09-12T19:49:06Z")
> [@michaeltheman](#): > > Dumb question but how does one make a hedione spray? Are they purchasable like the oil? > > I rather try the ones that are working great for many first before experimenting myself with mixes. > > Damn this pheromone thing is insane if it works! How can it even be legal and how can not like every male use it? Whats the ratio of men using this you think? I live in sweden and have never heard about this before I thought the same thing about pheromones. Really there are a lot of people doing it in secret and aren’t active in forums and such and experimentation. Most males don’t know about it because they haven’t been told or had the idea to search. And most users don’t tell because it sort of defeats the purpose. It’s not like mind control. It’s just people acting on what they normally would. The difference between being dressed nice and being dressed crappy (for lack of a better word). You’re sending a message about yourself that some may like some may not. Some messages are nearly likeable by all. And we already do this all the time. Haha if they make pheromones illegal they will have to make celery illegal! I couldn’t give you a ratio. ---
**Author:** ![Jdub](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jdub/32/1399_2.png) [@Jdub](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jdub)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2017, 8:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dosage-question-hormone-difference/67386/10 "2017-09-12T20:28:58Z")
By the way if you have any more questions of the like feel free to PM me anytime.. also I’d like to hear more about this two week abstaining period. 🙂