# Dosage Tips **URL:** \ **Category:** Women's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [June 9, 2009, 8:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dosage-tips/29741 "2009-06-09T20:59:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![kimberly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f4b2a3/32.png) [@kimberly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/kimberly)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2009, 8:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dosage-tips/29741/1 "2009-06-09T20:59:45Z")
I was reading some information on pheromone dosage the other day and wanted to share this information with you all. It may be particularly useful for newbies who are concerned about how much to use: As we age, our natural pheromone production decreases, which means that as a general rule you may need to use more as you age. For instance, someone in their early twenties may need only one spray while someone in their thirties may need 2 sprays. Those over forty may need to use 3-4 sprays or more to get a reaction. Of course our body chemistries are different, which means that a 40-something may need less than a 20-something. So take this information as a general rule only and begin to experience with smaller doses to find your right mix. People with darker skin and hair tones tend to produce more natural [pheromones](https://a314.com/) than those with lighter skin and hair. Thus, people of African descent tend to need less pheros than those of European descent. Asians tend to produce little to no pheros, which means that they may be offended or put off by heavy pheromone wearers. Of course, many women are aware that their copulin production varies throughout the month. It is typically higher right before a woman’s cycle because their purpose is to entice men to copulate resulting in procreation. Thus, it may be more beneficial for a woman to wear little to no copulins about a week or two before her cycle. ---
**Author:** ![Mtnjim](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mtnjim/32/2010_2.png) [@Mtnjim](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mtnjim)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2009, 9:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dosage-tips/29741/2 "2009-06-09T21:12:54Z")
> [@kimberly](#): > > … Thus, people of African descent tend to need less pheros than those of European descent. Asians tend to produce little to no pheros, which means that they may be offended or put off by heavy pheromone wearers. That’s something I’ve been wondering about, since _technically_ we are _all_ of African decent. ---
**Author:** ![kimberly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f4b2a3/32.png) [@kimberly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/kimberly)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2009, 12:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dosage-tips/29741/3 "2009-06-10T00:40:29Z")
> [@Mtnjim](#): > > That’s something I’ve been wondering about, since _technically_ we are _all_ of African decent. You are right, we are all technically from African decent; however the skin and/or hair pigmentation seems to be directly related to pheromone production. I also read that people of European heritage with darker hair tend to produce more pheros. than those with lighter hair colors. The book actually said that this is why many women prefer the tall, “dark”, handsome type b/c men with these features produce more pheromones. Good observation! ---
**Author:** ![Sillykitty](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sillykitty/32/1574_2.png) [@Sillykitty](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Sillykitty)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2009, 12:49am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dosage-tips/29741/4 "2009-06-10T00:49:57Z")
Then why is it that “gentlemen prefer blondes”? ---
**Author:** ![diane999](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diane999/32/1110_2.png) [@diane999](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diane999)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2009, 1:55am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dosage-tips/29741/5 "2009-06-10T01:55:32Z")
> [@kimberly](#): > > I was reading some information on pheromone dosage the other day and wanted to share this information with you all. It may be particularly useful for newbies who are concerned about how much to use: > > As we age, our natural pheromone production decreases, which means that as a general rule you may need to use more as you age. For instance, someone in their early twenties may need only one spray while someone in their thirties may need 2 sprays. Those over forty may need to use 3-4 sprays or more to get a reaction. Of course our body chemistries are different, which means that a 40-something may need less than a 20-something. So take this information as a general rule only and begin to experience with smaller doses to find your right mix. > > People with darker skin and hair tones tend to produce more natural pheromones than those with lighter skin and hair. Thus, people of African descent tend to need less pheros than those of European descent. Asians tend to produce little to no pheros, which means that they may be offended or put off by heavy pheromone wearers. Thank you for this, but I really do need to point out something. Our bodies naturally produce pheromones in the nanogram range. [Pheromone products](https://a314.com/shop/) contain pheromones in the microgram range. **One microgram is equal to 1000 nanograms.** So even one spray of pheromone already contains well over a thousand times what is produced naturally. Therefore even as we age it you shouldn’t have to increase the dosage based on that. What you should look for, rather, is results in your intended target. And to find that out you should always start with one spray, repeat to check your results and only then move up to higher sprays if you need to. If you spray on too much pheromone you get what we call a “ghosting” effect, which is that your pheromone signature is so strong, you end up getting tuned out by your target, and it can be worse than if you had worn no pheromones at all. More is not necessarily better. > [@kimberly](#): > > Of course, many women are aware that their copulin production varies throughout the month. It is typically higher right before a woman’s cycle because their purpose is to entice men to copulate resulting in procreation. Thus, it may be more beneficial for a woman to wear little to no copulins about a week or two before her cycle. I believe you meant to say that women’s copulin production increases at mid cycle, when they ovulate. That more pronounced scent of copulins is a signal to males that she is sexually receptive. I’m not sure of your logic behind women wearing no cops before this time, since the whole purpose of pheromone and pheromone-like products is to project something, like receptivity and attraction. To that end, any time a woman projects through her scent that she is sexually attractive would be beneficial. Perhaps you can clear that up for me? Diane ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2009, 4:20am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dosage-tips/29741/6 "2009-06-10T04:20:33Z")
i have heard the logic of “older needing more” and always said i cant imagine more than a spray being necessary to elicit a response. of course, sometimes its _more fun_ to use more, but i wouldnt say necessary. for this reason, i get alot of the experimones in different doses because i never find a dose that i use across the board. now when it comes to men, wearing 'none when you are already making quite a bit of it is over-kill to me. just MO. ---
**Author:** ![kimberly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f4b2a3/32.png) [@kimberly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/kimberly)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2009, 4:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dosage-tips/29741/7 "2009-06-10T04:46:42Z")
> [@Sillykitty](#): > > Then why is it that “gentlemen prefer blondes”? I am just posting info. that I read. But, we have to remember that everyone is different and variety is the spice of life. While some men may prefer blondes (although we must ask if they are natural or not, which could make a difference in their natural phero. production), all men don’t. This could be a psychological response as well since blondes are deemed to “dumb” and “easy” (not my words), this may just seem more attractive to a man out on the prowl. On the other hand, some blondes may be emitting strong natural pheros. or they may be wearing synthetic ones. Remember it is not a one size fits all type of thing. There are many individual differences. ---
**Author:** ![kimberly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f4b2a3/32.png) [@kimberly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/kimberly)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2009, 4:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dosage-tips/29741/8 "2009-06-10T04:59:22Z")
> [@diane999](#): > > I’m not sure of your logic behind women wearing no cops before this time, since the whole purpose of pheromone and pheromone-like products is to project something, like receptivity and attraction. To that end, any time a woman projects through her scent that she is sexually attractive would be beneficial. Perhaps you can clear that up for me? > > Diane I can see the logic of needing more pheros as one ages if their natural production is low. However, I wasn’t suggesting that older women start with higher doses. I was merely pointing out the fact that they may see better results as they increase their dosage. If someone already has an adequate production to get the results they desire, then they have no need for extra help. However, as we age a lot of hormones and other body chemical production decreases, this is why some women begin to need extra estrogen as they age because their natural production decreases or they undergo a hysterectomy. Thus, I can see how the same theory would hold true for pheromones. In regards to using less copulins during mid-cyle, the logic is that extra copulins may create a ghosting effect as you mentioned in your previous post. If her natural production/diffusion is high, wearing extra copulins may have an adverse reaction-in essence, turning her target off. This is the same theory behind starting with one drop/spray then working your way up. More is not always better. ---
**Author:** ![diane999](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diane999/32/1110_2.png) [@diane999](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diane999)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2009, 5:01am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dosage-tips/29741/9 "2009-06-10T05:01:01Z")
> [@kimberly](#): > > I am just posting info. that I read. But, we have to remember that everyone is different and variety is the spice of life. While some men may prefer blondes (although we must ask if they are natural or not, which could make a difference in their natural phero. production), all men don’t. This could be a psychological response as well since blondes are deemed to “dumb” and “easy” (not my words), this may just seem more attractive to a man out on the prowl. On the other hand, some blondes may be emitting strong natural pheros. or they may be wearing synthetic ones. Remember it is not a one size fits all type of thing. There are many individual differences. Ah, I see. If you are posting what you’ve read somewhere it would be helpful for member to evaluate the quality of that information if you could provide a link. Thanks ---
**Author:** ![kimberly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f4b2a3/32.png) [@kimberly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/kimberly)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2009, 5:05am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dosage-tips/29741/10 "2009-06-10T05:05:48Z")
> [@diane999](#): > > Ah, I see. If you are posting what you’ve read somewhere it would be helpful for member to evaluate the quality of that information if you could provide a link. > > Thanks Actually, I read it in a book about pheromones. I don’t have the info. with me now, but I will try to get the title for you. ---
**Author:** ![diane999](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diane999/32/1110_2.png) [@diane999](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diane999)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2009, 5:18am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dosage-tips/29741/11 "2009-06-10T05:18:54Z")
> [@kimberly](#): > > I can see the logic of needing more pheros as one ages if their natural production is low. However, I wasn’t suggesting that older women start with higher doses. I was merely pointing out the fact that they may see better results as they increase their dosage. If someone already has an adequate production to get the results they desire, then they have no need for extra help. However, as we age a lot of hormones and other body chemical production decreases, this is why some women begin to need extra estrogen as they age because their natural production decreases or they undergo a hysterectomy. Thus, I can see how the same theory would hold true for pheromones. > > In regards to using less copulins during mid-cyle, the logic is that extra copulins may create a ghosting effect as you mentioned in your previous post. If her natural production/diffusion is high, wearing extra copulins may have an adverse reaction-in essence, turning her target off. This is the same theory behind starting with one drop/spray then working your way up. More is not always better. I think you are confusing issues here. Forgive me if I’m misunderstanding. You are posting about copulins? Or are you posting about pheromones? When you are talking about applying _ **thousands** _ of times the amount of naturally occurring pheromones, saying that applying more [pheromone product](https://a314.com/shop/) is better as you age just doesn’t make sense. And copulins are not the same as pheromones, even though they are used for the same type of purpose, mainly attraction. Their target action is completely different. They are not single molecules with a binding affinity for a cellular receptor that starts a neurological cascade in the brain the way pheromones do. They are a combination of volatile short-chain fatty acids that have a particular _scent_ that is extremely attractive sexually to men, which increases sexual desire and and arousal. A woman who naturally produces high copulins at mid cycle doesn’t need to supplement with exogenous copulins… it is a waste, since her scent signature is already extremely attractive. But, women on birth control pills and women as they age produce less copulins no matter the time of month. And women who are past menopause produce no noticeable copulins at all… and this is because natural copulin production in exquisitely dependent on the amount of estrogen her body is producing. And most women do not produce as many copulins as the “producers” who produce the maximum output of endogenous copulins. So supplementation even at mid month for most women is a desirable, not a detrimental thing. The issue of ghosting doesn’t apply, really to copulins. You are not going to overwhelm anyone’s pheromone receptors with copulins, since it is the smell, not a molecular binding affinity or receptor activation potential with copulins. What can happen, however, with too much copulins is that with too high a dosage you get a gag reflex rather than arousal. Fatty acids are notorious for being extremely repugnant at high concentration. But all this about copulins and scent attractiveness is moot, imo, because there currently is no copulin product on the market that has even remotely the same scent characteristics as the real thing. Diane ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2009, 4:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dosage-tips/29741/12 "2009-06-10T16:45:55Z")
im going to dissagree with the world right here and say for me there is no copulin OD. more certainly is not better, as it CAN get sickening if you can detect them 5 feet away (been there done that, mua hahahahaha…) but i have never gotten any ghosting affect from copulins… _and_ there are MANY disturbed HOT men that dig the sickening scent. i am going to be honest and say id like to avoid the “disturbed” ones, but in any event i dont get ignored, LOL ! 😃😃😃 ---
**Author:** ![diane999](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diane999/32/1110_2.png) [@diane999](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diane999)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2009, 4:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dosage-tips/29741/13 "2009-06-10T16:54:26Z")
> [@Lor](#): > > im going to dissagree with the world right here and say for me there is no copulin OD. > > more certainly is not better, > as it CAN get sickening if you can detect them 5 feet away > (been there done that, mua hahahahaha…) > > but i have never gotten any ghosting affect from copulins… > _and_ > there are MANY disturbed HOT men that dig the sickening scent. > > i am going to be honest and say id like to avoid the “disturbed” ones, > but in any event i dont get ignored, LOL ! > > 😃😃😃 You’re only saying that because you haven’t been around my “beakers”…lool. 😮😃 When I’m talking about concentrated… it’s a little different than when you are talking concentrated. My growth plates, though… they smell like the real thing.. nom…nom…nom… 😛 Diane ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2009, 5:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dosage-tips/29741/14 "2009-06-10T17:00:17Z")
> [@diane999](#): > > You’re only saying that because you haven’t been around my “beakers”…lool. 😮😃 When I’m talking about concentrated… it’s a little different than when you are talking concentrated. > > My growth plates, though… they smell like the real thing. 😛 > > Diane > > Diane id walk around with a growth-plate in my pocket,lol, if i could get away with it ! can we say biggest customer ??? im saying infront of everyone here… _give me the price for a quart_. we can go from there,LOL… ---
**Author:** ![kimberly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f4b2a3/32.png) [@kimberly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/kimberly)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2009, 5:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dosage-tips/29741/15 "2009-06-10T17:00:29Z")
> [@Lor](#): > > im going to dissagree with the world right here and say for me there is no copulin OD. > > more certainly is not better, > as it CAN get sickening if you can detect them 5 feet away > (been there done that, mua hahahahaha…) > > but i have never gotten any ghosting affect from copulins… > _and_ > there are MANY disturbed HOT men that dig the sickening scent. > > i am going to be honest and say id like to avoid the “disturbed” ones, > but in any event i dont get ignored, LOL ! > > 😃😃😃 What is the maximum kind and amout (of cops) that you have worn at one time and gotten hits? ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2009, 5:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dosage-tips/29741/16 "2009-06-10T17:09:30Z")
> [@kimberly](#): > > What is the maximum kind and amout (of cops) that you have worn at one time and gotten hits? heh heh heh well usually it starts out as a mistake. i dont put them on industrial-strength on purpose but this is usually how it starts out: im on my way out the door. all pheromones/cops get put on in the truck, because i dont want the cloud hanging out in my window-less bathroom 😉 so…there i am…in my truck. prolly driving 😮 i have EoW on oil-form in my hand, and it smells like…um… …well doesnt matter. i roll on a strip the size of a candy-bar underneith my shirt, and realize i need my wrists to smoosh it around. now its on my wrists. i reek. i put on some oil-based perfume and allow all to dry-down. in a small truck-cab, even with windows open, you get used to the smell and dont realize you still might burn other peoples eyes around you. i have done this many many times to the point where people at my work have said _damn, you smell good_. just like that, all slanted and groovy 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Flirtatious](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/flirtatious/32/2270_2.png) [@Flirtatious](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Flirtatious)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2009, 3:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dosage-tips/29741/17 "2009-06-11T15:09:35Z")
> [@Sillykitty](#): > > Then why is it that “gentlemen prefer blondes”? Hmmm… Just a guess… Men’s noses are not as good as women’s, but they are very into the visual stimulation? Blond hair is a sign of youth and fertility. Natural blondes have lighter hair when they’re young and the hair gets darker with age. I’m working my way up on cops when I’ve mastered my covering skills to perfection. Otherwise I just feel selfconscious and that’s not going to help… I’d love to be able to research if there’s a pattern between copulin users, regarding f.e. age, ethnicity, birth control etc. and their various sweet spots. The differences are huge!! ---
**Author:** ![kimberly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f4b2a3/32.png) [@kimberly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/kimberly)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2009, 10:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dosage-tips/29741/18 "2009-06-11T22:14:02Z")
> Flirtatious > > Hmmm… Just a guess… Men’s noses are not as good as women’s, but they are very into the visual stimulation? Blond hair is a sign of youth and fertility. Natural blondes have lighter hair when they’re young and the hair gets darker with age. Well we have to remember that men are highly visual as a general rule. They have to look first in order to even be interested to enter your orbit (unless they are just close enough by default) in order to even pick up on your pheromone signature. Pheromones are only a minute part of the entire attraction process-if someone isn’t close enough to pick up a scent, then the pheromones don’t even have a chance to work.