# Down the Rabbit Hole with DanMan **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Journals\ **Created:** [May 26, 2009, 4:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/down-the-rabbit-hole-with-danman/29288 "2009-05-26T16:19:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![DanMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e495f1/32.png) [@DanMan](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/DanMan)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2009, 4:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/down-the-rabbit-hole-with-danman/29288/1 "2009-05-26T16:19:33Z")
**_“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn’t. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn’t be. And what it wouldn’t be, it would. You see?”_ - Alice in Wonderland** **Hey There!** Throughout my journal I will be sharing my experience with pheromones. Everything I write here is 100% what I have experienced, however nothing I tell you will be true. Take nothing here as an absolute because I can only present my interpretation of the surrounding events. None the less I hope you enjoy reading through and taking what you can, dropping the rest and find yourself working with the information within in a way that suits you. * * * Enjoy the Show…\*\*\* > [@Contents](#): > > 1. Who Am I? (#1) > 2. My First Reviews (#1) > 3. Testing Template (#1) > 4. Spaceland Initial Test (#2) > 5. CTTM2 Testing - Part One (#3) - Part Two (#4) > 6. Dreaming in Spaceland (#5) Sleep Testing _ **Updated: 08/06/09** _] > 7. CTTM2 + Ammo = Hugs? (#6) > 8. Come Talk to Me… No Really (#9) + Spaceland Honourable Mention > 9. CTTM2 & Daytime Ammo (#10) > 10. Ammo + Spaceland & Hangover (p2#11) > 11. Blind Testing MX320 (p2#12) > 12. MX292 Because I’m worth it… (p2#13) > 13. Instant Gentleman Testing (p2#15#16) > 14. Testing Instant Gentleman/MX292/MX320 (p2#17) > 15. MX391 First (Limited) Experience ([link](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/down-the-rabbit-hole-with-danman/29288/24)) **Age:** 21 (to 23 depending on which post you read) \*\* Race: **Mixed (75% White European/25% Black African)** Personality/Temprement: \*\*ENTP ([Read More…](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/meyers-briggs-typing-pheromones/18049)) **Products Tested to Date:** - Ammo (v1.0 - x1) - Ammo (ToGo) - TUTH (v1.0 - 2.5 mcg) - TUTH (ToGo) - CTTM (Mix 2) - Instant Shine & x2 Versian - Spaceland - Instant Honesty (ToGo) - Instant Jerk - [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/) (ToGo) - Instant Openness (ToGo) & x2 Version - MX292 \<- absolute favourite party vibe - MX320 - MX391 _Refer to my signature for products that I currently own._ > [@Reviews Before Journal](#): > > **Products I’ve used in the past…** > > **Instant Shine** - This was my favorite of the three that I ordered. I usually wore this in combination with another aftershave or Ammo . My experience on days wearing this at work were usually finding myself having ridiculously fun and playful days with a certain girl. She already had a boyfriend but often would offer to set me up with her girl friends. > > Outside of work I will be honest and say that I can’t be as detailed with the results as there was often alcohol involved but it was still there and this was the first bottle to run completely dry. > > **Turn up the Heat -** This I would wear at the top of my chest and on my wrists when out on an evening. Again usually with another standard aftershave. Oddly with this the most notable effect was on myself. Whether it was the psychological aspect of choosing to wear it or an actual effect I’m not sure, but I found I was a lot more direct in my approach when wearing this scent. > > **Ammunition -** This is a funny old one. I started out wearing on my neck and wrists but it seemed to give me a headache. I then tried on just my wrists but could smell it quite strong whenever my hands went past my face. Eventually I settled on the back of my neck. I can’t really remember how strong the effects were as they were outshadowed by the hassle that surrounded it and I ended up giving most away to a friend. I found the small travel bottle to give more manageable doses but preferred the use of shine or shine + [Turn Up The Heat](https://a314.com/product/turn-up-the-heat-tuth/) (NOTE: No longer get headaches when wearing Ammo) **What follows is the basic template that I shall be using to report my findings:** > [@Report Template](#): > > **Products Used:** > > **Self effects:** > > **Effects to others** : > > **Duration of effects:** > > **Effects from mixing with other products:** > > **Range** : > > **Time exposure** : ---
**Author:** ![DanMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e495f1/32.png) [@DanMan](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/DanMan)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2009, 9:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/down-the-rabbit-hole-with-danman/29288/2 "2009-05-26T21:06:36Z")
Ok so my delivery finally arrived today with my Spaceland & CTTM2 and a free TUTH ToGo(Thanks). Got to do a tiny bit of testing today and thought I’d leave a quick report of my first impressions. I’m guessing with time I should become more used to reporting my findings and possibly even noticing the distinct effects. \*\* Products Used: **1 (and a tiny bit due to new bottle) Spray Spaceland to my neck to test for self effects on arrival and noticed nothing out of the ordinary. Got a call about an hour later to meet some friends and added 3 more Sprays of Spaceland and 1 of [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/). This next period is where the rest of the report is from. \*\* Self effects:** First 15 minutes whilst walking to friends place. Aware of it’s presence but can’t quite place the experience. Arrived at friends house with one girl and two guys all of similar age range. We had random disjointed conversations, but it must be noted that the others had previously had a couple of beers. I initially felt slightly distant but cracked a few jokes and generally had fun for about 1 hour and a half (Time Flew Past). After this, felt a little drained, the TV eventually came on and I made a move. **Effects to others** : As mentioned above disjointed funny conversations but there was alcohol in the situation and this could quite easily explain it. One of the guys was talking a lot about random things that just seemed to pop out of nowhere but I’m not used to hanging around with him so this could be normal. Inconclusive. **Duration of effects:** Noticeable effects for about 1.30hrs **Effects from mixing with other products:** Unknown **Range** : 2x3m room enclosed room. **Time exposure** : 3 hours in total ---
**Author:** ![DanMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e495f1/32.png) [@DanMan](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/DanMan)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2009, 10:34am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/down-the-rabbit-hole-with-danman/29288/3 "2009-05-28T10:34:21Z")
CTTM (Mix 2) - First Steps **Products Used:** \*\*[Come Talk To Me](https://a314.com/product/come-talk-to-me-cttm/) (Mix 2) Day 1: One Spray to Neck Day 2: Two Sprays to Neck\*\* **Self effects:** Day 1: Tested one spray on front of neck to test self effects before a telephone interview as I was slightly nervous. My language was a lot more clumsy than usual (even with nerves) and verbally I had similar symptoms to drinking a little too much coffee. Day 2: Tested two sprays on front of neck before an AM meeting. Possibly a little more laid back than usual and exploring my options a little more in conversation. Usually this is just something to tick of the list. **Effects to others** : Day 1: Salesman knocked at my door and after dismissing his offer we spoke about his job and industry for a couple of minutes. Thinking about it afterwards he didn’t make any further sales approach after my initial dismissal so unlikely he was trying to build rapport to sell but continued talking. Possible hit? Day 2: Dropped into Starbucks for a drink and was my cheery with the waitress, she seemed to be polite more than anything. Whilst I waited she spoke in Polish with her friend (both early 20s) and they were giggling. In my AM meeting the women was probably the friendliest and most helpful person I’ve met at the place however it was AM and I would usually go PM near the end of the working day so this could be part of the reason. Met my mother at work for lunch and everyone was openly excited to meet me though several had seen me before. A little chit chat and we went off to a cafe. Here the women were slightly rude to my mother but completely OK with me which was odd as we were obviously together. Another possible hit was whilst browsing a clothes store. A woman was as involved with whatever she was doing on the shelves, as I was looking and as she got close to me she suddenly burst into sharp (but friendly) conversation asking if I needed help and then walked away. Afternote: Also got a compliment on my scent followed by “What is it?” I replied with the first word that came to my head “Genius!”. **Range** : All experiences within 1 metre. ---
**Author:** ![DanMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e495f1/32.png) [@DanMan](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/DanMan)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2009, 12:47am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/down-the-rabbit-hole-with-danman/29288/4 "2009-06-01T00:47:49Z")
CTTM (Mix 2) - Part 2, now with Ammo Ok so apart from a small hiccup where \*([Yeah, so I'm dumb.](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/yeah-so-im-dumb/29382)) I have continued my testing of CTTM2 and even thrown in a bit of ammo. Here’s what I got: **Products Used:** **Day 3: 1 Spray Ammo Neck + 3 Sprays CTTM2 (2 Neck/1Wrists)** **Day 4: 1 Spray Ammo Back of Neck + 3 Sprays CTTM2 (2Neck/1Wrists)** **Self effects:** Day 3: Adding ammo to the equation had quite an effect on the overall smell and I felt left the whole mix feeling a bit heavier initially. Day 4: Changing the Ammo to the back of my neck brought back the initial light vibe and instant light smile I’ve come to recognize with wearing CTTM2. Overall: I’ve coined the initial self effects “Instant Light Smile”. Not that it’s a feel good kind of thing in comparison to anything I can think of but it seems to have a slight calming effect (not that I was stressed in any way). I’ve also noticed I seem to be more generous than usual. I would say I’m usually generous but an example with this was a guy coming up to ask for coins for a phone. I checked my wallet and offered more than he asked for. A couple other similar events noted. **Effects to others** : Day 3: One girl mentioned my scent as odd but nice whilst walking together. No overtly noticeable hits though I’m guessing that the conversation was slightly steered by the “honesty” components present in CTTM2 but in a light hearted way, nothing too serious. Later in the evening at a friends house another girl(drunk) who I know but don’t often speak with cuddled up to me and joked that I was hers, whilst pulling Ammo point closer. Day 4: Another day, another mention of the CTTM2 smell from the same girl that first mentioned it, though this time described as nice whilst cuddling into it. Another girl also decided to rest on me at one point so I would definitely attribute this to the pheros. Overall another smooth day, everything just seemed to flow well. **Duration of effects:** Compliments on smell approx 1 and 7 hours after app. All effects pretty consistent for the duration with the cuddle vibes hitting at approx 4 to 7 hour mark after app. **Effects from mixing with other products:** Ammo definitely adds to the mix but is definitely best away from my nose as it takes away a little from the self effects of CTTM2 and just made it feel a little heavier. **Range** : Various outdoor. **Time exposure** : Approx 6-8 hours in group situations on both days. This concludes my first week of testing CTTM2 so I will try to post only significant changes in it’s effects from now or how it blends in with other mixes. As I side note I will probably try and keep my journal cataloged with initial testing periods in one to two posts linked from the first post as a kind of index. As this grows I guess this will be less of a story and more of a reference guide so keeping on top of it should make things a bit easier. Always open to comments, suggestions or people just dropping by, [Come Talk To Me](https://a314.com/product/come-talk-to-me-cttm/) 🆒\* ---
**Author:** ![DanMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e495f1/32.png) [@DanMan](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/DanMan)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2009, 7:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/down-the-rabbit-hole-with-danman/29288/5 "2009-06-03T19:02:53Z")
Dreaming in Spaceland As some of you may have recently seen I became interested in [the effect of pheromones on your dreams](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-pheromones-affect-your-dreams/29170). I usually remember my dreams and often write them down if they are interesting to retain the memory otherwise they fall away after 30 mins to an hour. So I decided to give a single shot of Spaceland a go before heading to sleep the other evening and thought I’d give a quick report on a slightly unexpected result. **1 Spray Spacleland to Chest/neck Directly before Bed** To give you a bit of perspective, I occasionally wake up in the night about half way through. This night however I was very restless and was in between light sleep and pre-sleep for quite a while. I woke up about half way through the night and noticed the smell had transferred to my pillow and also changed into something rather more potent smelling and chemical reminiscent. As I got up for the bathroom I had a lighter experience, similar to that of a time I went diving and then had a couple pints soon afterwards. It was like still being in a dream although I know categorically I wasn’t and when I looked in the mirror I noticed I had slightly red eyes (unusual). After going back to sleep and waking in the morning the only dream that I remember is my getting up and living the first hour of my day in a completely routine mundane way, nothing out of the ordinary. This is the first time I remember a dream where everything is normal and “real” even down to the colour of socks that I had on the radiator beside me. The slightly changed smell that had developed in the night was still there though fainter. Definitely less desirable than my daytime applications of Spaceland. I doubt I should want to try this again but I may give it another go to see if the results are duplicated. **EDIT:** I have tested this once more and again found it a little harder to get to sleep and found the smell stronger and more unpleasant. I slept through completely however and have no recollection of any dreams. I think I will probably go back to social testing 😛 **FURTHER EDIT:** I tried this again and upped the amount to two sprays. Again it took me a little longer to get to sleep than usual but I noticed that I was having vivid dreams when I did. I woke up twice within the night and although I no longer remember the dreams now, I remember having trouble distinguishing whether the events had really happened or not. ---
**Author:** ![DanMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e495f1/32.png) [@DanMan](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/DanMan)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2009, 1:22am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/down-the-rabbit-hole-with-danman/29288/6 "2009-06-05T01:22:25Z")
CTTM2 + Ammo = Hugs? So I’ve been continuing to play with CTTM2 and Ammo. As I’ve mostly gone into the effects this seems to have I’ll try and keep this a little shorter picking up on only the necessary. **Products Used:** Morning: 1 Spray Ammo to Forearms 1 Spray CTTM2 to Wrists 2 Spray CTTM2 to neck Same Evening: 1 Spray CTTM2 to neck 1 Spray Ammo to Forearms **Self effects:** “Instant Light Smile” In the evening a light debate sparked up over dinner with friends who usually do but I noticed I joined in quite a lot more than I usually would. Just had a thought, about an hour after my second application I got a sudden burst of energy and was pretty hyper as other people arrived and had to make a conscious effort to calm myself down a little so as not to be too OTT. **Effects to others** : Little noticed in the day, threw out some small talk during the day but nothing hooked and to be honest I wasn’t really making a huge effort. Evening: My friends sister (20s) whilst watching TV as I stood nearby suddenly jumped up and hugged me whilst rocking (side to side, not the music 😛 ). As she moved away, I guess a little self conscious, she stated “Sorry, I just had a drink” although showed no other signs of being drunk. The hugs have come with every test of this mix so far, I’m guessing an increased feeling of comfort and connection around me? Went to eat at a friends house (3 lads, 3 ladies) and at the dinner table every girl made a point of trying to sit next to me, one even getting one of the lads to move as she wanted to sit with me. It was even mentioned by the others that I was high in demand 😛 Also one of girls from previous reports mentioned that I had that same smell again and damn me for smelling so nice 😉 **Effects from mixing with other products:** Keeping the Ammo in a separate application point from the CTTM2 definitely improves the general smell at least from my perception. **Range** : Indoors, medium room. **Time exposure** : Noticed from within 15 minutes of meeting. ---
**Author:** ![pherophreak](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pherophreak/32/1531_2.png) [@pherophreak](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/pherophreak)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2009, 5:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/down-the-rabbit-hole-with-danman/29288/7 "2009-06-05T17:24:33Z")
Keep up the good work. ---
**Author:** ![Drag0nsknight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9de053/32.png) [@Drag0nsknight](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Drag0nsknight)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2009, 9:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/down-the-rabbit-hole-with-danman/29288/8 "2009-06-05T21:55:59Z")
Great reports, I’ve been eyeballing Come talk to me and was curious what the effects are, your journals are great insight for a nublet like me lol! ---
**Author:** ![DanMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e495f1/32.png) [@DanMan](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/DanMan)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2009, 10:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/down-the-rabbit-hole-with-danman/29288/9 "2009-06-07T22:07:31Z")
Come Talk to Me… No, Really… _Products Used: **2 CTTM2 Neck + 2 CTTM2 to Wrists + 2 Ammo to Forearms \*\* Self effects:** As above though less of the initial effects and found that I needed to warm up a little to get on the vibe. Found this easier once I met with new people, possibly as I’d been with the same people all day sans mones._ _ **Effects to others** : Base effects as described in earlier posts remain same, lots of convos, kino, fun + \* Also noticed quite a few ‘looks’ from an acquaintance. Where she would usually speak to me she remained a little quieter than usual although she mentioned that she felt a little weird._ Later in the evening as I was growing weary at a club and sitting down watching my friends dance, a girl dancing nearby approached me, and literally dragged me to the dancefloor with her. We danced a little and when I excused myself to the toilet she really didn’t want to let me go. I didn’t end up seeing her afterwards however. Also outside the club a group of nearby girls approached us and were chatting A LOT. Perhaps a little too much, drink or mones, you decide? They did proceed to jokingly invite themselves with us but as we weren’t really feeling it we didn’t take them up on that. **Effects from mixing with other products:** I noticed a little more mock aggression from my friends whilst wearing the ammo but nothing serious. If I weren’t aware of the possibilities of that from Androstenone I’m not sure I would have picked up on it. * * * Family disagree with Spaceland\*\* _I saw family and family friends quite soon after wearing Spaceland a few days back, indoors for about an hour, nothing noted or mentioned at the time. Today however I met the same people and they asked if I’d been drinking or anything else the other night as I’d been acting a little different (I hadn’t been drinking)._ ---
**Author:** ![DanMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e495f1/32.png) [@DanMan](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/DanMan)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2009, 1:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/down-the-rabbit-hole-with-danman/29288/10 "2009-06-14T13:32:25Z")
CTTM2 & Pushing the Ammo \*\*Products Used: **2x Ammo to Inner Elbow 1x CTTM2 to Neck 1x CTTM2 to Wrists** Self effects:\*\* ‘Instant Light Smile’ and a hint of I can do no wrong attitude. (Next day I tried this mixture with an extra spray of CTTM2 to my neck and I was chatting and joking A LOT. I think 2 sprays is good for day wear, and 3 for high energy like clubs etc though I will continue testing) **Effects to others** : Whilst in a waiting room a bloke in his 30/40s? who was chatting to nobody even though he sat next to another person. A couple seconds after I sat down he glanced at me and a couple seconds later he made some joke to initiate conversation and the proceeded to share with me half his life story and how he can play the system. It was all very buddy buddy, like we were in it together and he was sharing his secrets kind of thing. When I eventually got into the office I asked the guy I was chatting to a simple question yes/no question. He followed it up by giving me the backstory to the whole situation and applogizing about how he really wishes he could help me but he was supposed to go on some training course that got cancelled etc and then fully describing their state of affairs at the moment. Afterwards I took a stroll and went to a perfume shop. Walked past the girl (lates teens/ early 20s) who was working there a couple times and she didn’t even look up to notice me so I initiated conversation. She was a little shocked at first and gave a big grin but then snapped straight into work mode. She gave me a few free samplers but nothing really stood out about our interaction. Had some great body language flirting with two girls who was sitting in a car at traffic lights which ended in us both sticking our tongue out at each other and chuckling which I highly doubt was the pheros lol but still fun enough to mention and who knows maybe self effects. One of them shouted something at me with a huge smile as she drove away but I couldn’t make sense of it. **Duration of effects:** Maybe 4 hours? **Effects from mixing with other products:** Although having 2 sprays of ammo seemed to make guys more buddy buddy, I didn’t notice much of a benefit other than self effects with women so I think it may be worth sticking to one spray or just pushing it up to see if makes any difference changing the other way, I’ve not done structured testing above one spray with ammo on it’s own yet . **Range** : Indoors - less than a metre **Time exposure** : avg 5-10 mins ---
**Author:** ![DanMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e495f1/32.png) [@DanMan](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/DanMan)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2009, 3:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/down-the-rabbit-hole-with-danman/29288/11 "2009-06-15T15:10:04Z")
Ammo & Spaceland **Products Used:** 1x Ammo to Back of Elbows 1x Spaceland to Wrists 1x Spaceland to Neck 1x Hangover from night before **Self effects:** For the first 2-3 hours I was not at all talkative and feeling the night before. **Effects to others** : With two girls (1 friend, 1 acquaintance) whilst I wasn’t speaking much they were at it with girl talk. I may as well have been watching a film of life behind the scenes of a girl. I’m exaggerating slightly, there were a few odd bits of conversation involving me but I was feeling the previous night. Both bought me drinks however. After everything I went back to my friends house with just her and we ended up chatting until like 3am. Probably longest conversation we’ve ever had talking about all sorts that we wouldn’t usually. It didn’t even occur to me until afterwards that it could have been partially due to the pheros, I’d forgotten that I even had them on. **Effects from mixing with other products:** Not a fair test due to the hangover but the epic conversation made me think this might be worthy of reporting. **Time exposure** : 3 till 3 😉 P.S. Remind me not to drink that much again etc P.P.S. My order tracker says it’s been with the driver for 8 hours, I’m getting impatient… ---
**Author:** ![DanMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e495f1/32.png) [@DanMan](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/DanMan)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2009, 11:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/down-the-rabbit-hole-with-danman/29288/12 "2009-06-16T23:14:49Z")
Blind Testing MX320 **Testing Free Gift MX320 v1.b1 with no prior knowledge of attributes** \*\*Products Used: MX320 **1 & 1/4 x Spray to wrists (@1pm - new bottle hence 1/4) 1 x Spray to Wrists, wiped onto neck (@6pm)** Self effects:\*\* First impressions I really like the smell, this is game I believe and would be first time I’ve smelt it. I can see how it might be a bit much with a ton of sprays but I like it right now. I dealt with it all pretty calmly and it seemed like she had offered to forget about it before I’d even fully registered the event and where to go with it. 1st app: Girl came to mine to pick something up who I haven’t seen in a while. We chatted about what we’d been up to etc. The conversation flowed well and we chatted for a short while but nothing really stood out. Perhaps slight effect of feeling “cool” though it’s hard to explain and not tangible enough to describe. 2nd app: The sun was shining which always puts me in a good mood but I did feel that there was a bit more of a centered glow as I walked to meet friends. After meeting at their place I felt like perhaps I was speaking a little slower and more pronounced whilst taking up a lot of space(in a positive way). I noticed maybe 3-4 hours after second app I seemed to take more of a back seat and blended into the background a little. This could be due to tiredness or possibly pheros having less of or a different effect, who knows? Around the same time another of my friends(male) seemed to liven up. As a side note, testing things that you have no idea about is a whole different ballgame. It’s possible there was more or less going on than I mention here as you don’t want to be thinking about it the whole time but it’s possible that I’m missing some of the more subtle effects and just attributing it to the day to day variations of life. Will take some getting used to unless I get any mega obvious hits. **Effects to others** : 1st app: Nothing out of the ordinary noted 2nd app: I noticed a lot of mirroring from a female friend and afterwards noticed I was mirroring another female friend quite often. Will be interesting to note after next time I meet them without whether this is usual as I’m guessing it’s possible that I just haven’t noticed it. One of the friends who I was there with gave me a big hug and then complained that I only gave her a half-hearted hug in return (true though my hands were in my pockets due to being cold when she went for me). As I went to put on my jacket to leave, my friends sister who I’d only spoken to a couple times that night sprayed me with her perfume and literally grabbed and pulled me in for a hug a minute later. **Effects from mixing with other products:** N/A **Range** : Avg \<1 metre both in and outdoors **Time exposure** : 1st: 5-10 mins 2nd: 5 hours **AFTER-THOUGHTS:** I couldn’t bare the suspense, as I’d already tested blind I broke and decided to look at other topics on mx320. These are the thoughts that I had whilst relating others reports to my experience. - Probably worth noting that I was short a bit of change in a store and they let me off so definitely not giving out negative vibe to anyone. - Whilst we had a small gathering going I opted to walk 10 mins to shops with a different friend twice. One male, one female, even though I had no reason to either time, just ended up chatting. One told me about a bad dream that she’d had the night before in vivid detail. Would she have told me otherwise? This led to a group conversation on dreams and their meanings when we got back. - Friends got a new flat pack table arrive which I took control of building for them without being asked. Self effect? - Friends father spoke to me a lot and was initiating a lot of conversation even though it was clear I wasn’t interested. It felt as though he was trying to capture my attention whilst I was more interested in the group conversation that we had going. - I also wasn’t drinking even though the others were casually though this could just be an after-effect of a heavy weekend 😉 I have seen it described as cracked out ammo but didn’t get the same pumped effects I can get from that, it was more of a calm centered yet strong vibe if anything. The effects I mentioned seem to be pretty similar to a lot of other posters but were very subtle this time around. I was mostly with friends I’ve known a long time, it will be interesting to try in different social settings with others I don’t have such an established connection with. ---
**Author:** ![DanMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e495f1/32.png) [@DanMan](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/DanMan)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2009, 9:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/down-the-rabbit-hole-with-danman/29288/13 "2009-06-21T21:15:40Z")
Ok so I had two big events come up and I wanted to play with my new products even though I hadn’t properly tested them out first. As such the following is most definitely not a strict test or even a proper report. Even as such I felt I may as well add my experience to the mix as it’s still a test of sorts. Just for the record mx292 is the only experimental mix that I’d read a bit about before purchasing hence why I felt safe enough to use it in place of ammo for an evening. **First Imagined Mix:** 1x MX292 to Neck 1x MX292 to Wrists 1x CTTM to back of Neck 2x Shine to Wrists Went to a garden/house party where everybody was smart casual or fancy dress. I turned up in a suit so could also have played a part in any reactions. Everyone in fun social party-mode but I will share two possibly notable events: Saw a guy that I had a little scruff with in the past, first time I’ve seen him since and I said an apology as I was in the wrong last time. He was completely cool with it and was friendly and chatty. It’s worth noting that he seemed fine with me from the outset however. Girl that I would describe as an acquaintance whom I haven’t seen for a few months was stupidly flirty with me, sending a ton of IOI and practically begged me to meet with her and her mates in the week. Everyone else was open, friendly, highly social and I received respect and good vibes from everyone. **Second Imagined Mix:** 2x Shine to Wrists 1 1/2x Gentleman to Back of Elbows 2x CTTM to Neck Went to a friends Parents Party (avg age 40+), everyone friendly treating me as an equal etc. A lot of proximity from a girl (20s) who was there with her boyfriend, so I didn’t pursue it at all. One of the older women sat with me at one point and seemed slightly flirty and told me all about the dancing classes she has been doing recently. One thing that I did notice however was I really wasn’t in the right mindset. It’s possibly due to the fact I’d been at crazy party night before, was a little tired and I was a little bit of a fish out of water at this place. Even in my half hearted mood I still kept making an effort to at least position myself openly and chat to people so I was received well enough but just wasn’t feeling it. ---
**Author:** ![DanMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e495f1/32.png) [@DanMan](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/DanMan)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2009, 5:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/down-the-rabbit-hole-with-danman/29288/14 "2009-07-01T17:54:50Z")
Just came by to say that I haven’t forgotten this place. I’ve just been busy with a lot of things recently with work so haven’t had much of an opportunity to test things out. The one time that I did put a load of pheros on I happened to get caught in a tropical storm that washed through all of my clothes within 30 mins so not much hope of hits there… ---
**Author:** ![DanMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e495f1/32.png) [@DanMan](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/DanMan)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2009, 11:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/down-the-rabbit-hole-with-danman/29288/15 "2009-07-04T11:07:54Z")
**Products Used:** Day 1 1x [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/) to Neck Day 2 1x IG to Neck 1x IG to Wrists **Self effects:** Nothing noted. **Effects to others** : Nothing noted. **Time exposure** : 4 Hours * * * \*\*Products Used: **2x Instant Gentleman to Wrists1x CTTM2 to Neck** Self effects:\*\* More generous than usual, as I’ve noticed before with CTTM2. Offered to buy all of my drinks even though I knew it was going to cause me problems later in the day. **Effects to others** : Nothing noted in relation to myself but perhaps a friend picked up on the CTTM slightly as he was sitting next to me and was more talkative than usual, even though it wasn’t directly to me. **Time exposure** : 2 Hours * * * Out of everything I’ve tried so far Instant Gentleman is hardest to pinpoint. If it is doing anything, I’m finding it extremely hard to notice. To be honest I’m a bit disappointed in it so far, if it were my first experience with pheros I would definitely dismiss them. Tempted to give myself a mega dose on a disposable day to see if I catch anything. ---
**Author:** ![DanMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e495f1/32.png) [@DanMan](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/DanMan)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2009, 2:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/down-the-rabbit-hole-with-danman/29288/16 "2009-07-06T14:05:33Z")
\*\*Products Used: **2x [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/) to Neck 1x CTTM2 to Wrists** Self effects:\*\* Nothing too much initially. However later possible difference as mentioned below. **Effects to others** : I went to a party with all people that I know. There is one girl who I am ‘friends’ with but usually don’t get on with too well as we have VERY different views on life. I noticed today that the friction seemed to manifest itself in a more flirty way and even though I’m still not attracted to her there was definitely a lot more friendly back and forth banter. **Duration of effects:** 4 hours **Effects from mixing with other products:** Can’t decide whether the CTTM was bringing forward subtle attributes of IG or it was just plain CTTM & Beer. Only time & testing will tell… **Range** : Outdoor within a couple metres most of time. **Time exposure** : 4 hours ---
**Author:** ![DanMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e495f1/32.png) [@DanMan](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/DanMan)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2009, 12:45am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/down-the-rabbit-hole-with-danman/29288/17 "2009-07-25T00:45:35Z")
Just checking in to say that I’m still running tests on [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/) & MX320 MX320 seems to be towards what I thought I’d get out of IG. It’s more of a laid back alpha vibe is anything with a hint of happiness. I seem to get into a lot more in depth meandering conversations whilst wearing this as well. I am using this as an Ammo replacement when I fancy a more chilled out day. My tests have been mainly around the 2 sprays to neck mark, I always seem to back out of large doses in favour of testing with other pheros but I should probably break through that this weekend otherwise I’ll just keep limiting myself and might miss something great. Instant Gentleman - Nothing tangible to report, though I feel it is present, more testing required. MX292 2 sprays to neck - Love it. I have literally had women climbing over me on this one, it really seems to hit the spot every time. I forget that I’m wearing it and then when I look back I remember and realise that my natural animal magnatism had a helping hand 😉 ---
**Author:** ![DanMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e495f1/32.png) [@DanMan](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/DanMan)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2009, 7:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/down-the-rabbit-hole-with-danman/29288/18 "2009-11-28T07:26:07Z")
Hey Everyone, As you can see it’s been a little while, I kind of stopped using them mostly apart from the odd haphazard spray which was more because it was there rather than anything else. Then recently I started hanging in new crowds and decided to try it out once more as a bit of a boost. Crazy responses; first night one girl literally jumped on me in a club and things went on from there. Second night I was making out with a girl I just met before we even got to the whole names or conversation, purely dance game. At the same time was getting major IOI and eventually digits from another girl I originally had a brief chat with in the queue to club. **Mix used:** 3 x CTTM2 to Back of Neck 2 x MX292 to Neck 1 x Double Strength IS to forearms 2x Neck & 1x Wrist Armani Code Now that I think back I was probably just using them in the wrong situations more and more with people I had habitual responses to hence the lack of noticeable effect and incentive to wear. I might just be hooked again. EDIT: Probably worth adding I tried megadose of Spaceland and just felt the slightest hint of disorientation but nothing close to what I had hoped out of it. Used on a male friend as well with no observations. ---
**Author:** ![DanMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e495f1/32.png) [@DanMan](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/DanMan)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2009, 9:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/down-the-rabbit-hole-with-danman/29288/19 "2009-12-05T21:09:47Z")
Just ordered some new toys, expect some fresh reports soon! A314, Instant Jerk, mx353 & 2X [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) ToGo! ---
**Author:** ![DanMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e495f1/32.png) [@DanMan](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/DanMan)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2009, 1:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/down-the-rabbit-hole-with-danman/29288/20 "2009-12-09T13:20:30Z")
Nothing amazing to report today but thought I’d get back in the habit with a pleasent if not overwhelmingly useful report. * * * Products Used: * * * 2xIG to Left Wrist 2xIS to Right Wrist 2xIG to Neck 2xCTTM to Back of Neck * * * Self effects:\*\* Ok, so reasoning for the pheros today was I’d been arranging a group presentation and decided to see if I could perk it up and also make a good impression in pre/post talks. As a side note I’d had quite a bad nights sleep. No noticable instant effects however everything seemed to run smoothly and presentation went well. **Effects to others** : Other members of group seemed jolly and got on with each other perhaps more than usual although this could be as they are getting used to each other. **Duration of effects:** After coming home 2 hours after application I got a really bad headache and decided to go to sleep for a bit. Had out of character/almost comedy film dreams and woke up with the hugest smile and once I was a little more awake an almost sure sense that it was due to pheros this morning. **Effects from mixing with other products:** As previously mentioned I haven’t quite managed to work out IG however I have been using larger doses recently and believe there may be effects I’m not obviously noticing hence mixing with these others today. Felt like a different presence compared to the other pheros alone. \* [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/down-the-rabbit-hole-with-danman/29288.md?page=2)