# Dreams...your subconscious at work or messages from the great beyond! **URL:** \ **Category:** Lounge\ **Created:** [January 18, 2007, 9:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dreams-your-subconscious-at-work-or-messages-from-the-great-beyond/1655 "2007-01-18T21:34:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![rollercoaster](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/rollercoaster/32/2361_2.png) [@rollercoaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/rollercoaster)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2007, 11:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dreams-your-subconscious-at-work-or-messages-from-the-great-beyond/1655/21 "2007-06-10T23:17:16Z")
lol, a subconscious with a sense of humor ^^ ---
**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2007, 7:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dreams-your-subconscious-at-work-or-messages-from-the-great-beyond/1655/22 "2007-06-11T07:15:29Z")
> [@tacitus](#): > > two weeks ago I was running hypnotic games with my subconscious self, basically saying… show me something that lets me know that you’re there in the form of a signal.. > > soo… I’m dreaming and I get one of those "this is your subconscious " mild electrical humms, and the dream screen becomes like the window in the pilot’s cabin of a large aricraft, and we, err… me and myself, well, the dream screen begins to tilt like we are banking hard, the the dream screen turns 180 degrees upside down, so I watch or partake of the rest of the dream upside down… and what is there of my “dream-consciousness” (James Hillman’s concept) is thinking, What The F ? this dream is upside down… I have NEVER dreamed upside down… and in the “dream background” I heard a chortle… theeees eeeez your subconscious speeeeeeeking… 😃 that’s so funny to read.. well that’s the subconscious mind! ---
**Author:** ![Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gone_with_the_wind/32/2227_2.png) [@Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gone_with_the_Wind)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2007, 2:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dreams-your-subconscious-at-work-or-messages-from-the-great-beyond/1655/23 "2007-06-11T14:26:44Z")
> [@tacitus](#): > > … and in the “dream background” I heard a chortle… theeees eeeez your subconscious speeeeeeeking… 😃 You have a Hispanic unconscious? ---
**Author:** ![tacitus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@tacitus](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tacitus)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2007, 2:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dreams-your-subconscious-at-work-or-messages-from-the-great-beyond/1655/24 "2007-06-11T14:45:15Z")
Argentinian, with a good dose of Czech… implanted in a Scot-Welsh carrier pod… it gets complicated…😃 ---
**Author:** ![MuskCloud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f07891/32.png) [@MuskCloud](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MuskCloud)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2007, 5:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dreams-your-subconscious-at-work-or-messages-from-the-great-beyond/1655/25 "2007-06-11T17:05:51Z")
> [@PheroQuirk](#): > > seriously… why not? I was both joking and not joking, PQ. See below. > [@MuskCloud](#): > > I’ll be finding out soon enough when I get mine. A while ago now, I was so into dreams and analysing their meaning that I must have read every book on the market that had anything to do with dream symbology. Some of them had authors that must have specialised in Freudian psychoanalysis back in medical school. Seriously, these guys channelled Freud, and every description of dream symbols and imagery had a Freudian explanation for it. Let’s just say I would have preferred an explanation from someone who had followed, say, Carl Jung. At least I’d know I didn’t have to blame my parents or ex-girlfriends for what goes on in my head at night. LOL! Musk ---
**Author:** ![tacitus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@tacitus](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tacitus)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2007, 7:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dreams-your-subconscious-at-work-or-messages-from-the-great-beyond/1655/26 "2007-06-11T19:20:55Z")
Freud, Jung… etc… each has a piece of the whole, none could explain every facet of human nature… when Freud is/was right, he could be so scary dead on, when he was wrong he sounded like a fringe crank… Sometimes dreams fit the Freud model, sometimes they’re archetypical, sometimes they’re Adlerian (compensation and over-compensation), or Ericksonian (working through a hypnotic instruction… those can be exhausting… you’d be surprised how much psychic work can be done in an “activated” dream state)… and then there’s random muck’n’garbage clearing out of the short term memory banks…🆒 You ocassionally hear about “dream meetings” where two (or more ?) people are together in the same dream at the same time… maybe certain cultures know how to invoke dream processes better than we do ? A couple of the hypno CD sellers have dream enhancer packages, I tried the Paraliminal and it did sort of work… there was a distinct increase in dream-volume (I mean as if dreams had a volume knob and it was turned higher)… more dream-loudness… 😕 What the world needs is a sophisticated 4 CD dream course taught by experts, if such experts do in fact exist and could be persuaded to share their abilities… Yowww.. I would love to have one substantial insight or thought process per sleep cycle…😛 😛 To much mind crud clogging up the world’s subconscious plumbing…☹ ---
**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2007, 8:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dreams-your-subconscious-at-work-or-messages-from-the-great-beyond/1655/27 "2007-06-11T20:04:40Z")
> [@tacitus](#): > > You ocassionally hear about “dream meetings” where two (or more ?) people are together in the same dream at the same time… maybe certain cultures know how to invoke dream processes better than we do ? I did that a couple of times - once with somebody from an internet forum, once with someone I know. > [@tacitus](#): > > A couple of the hypno CD sellers have dream enhancer packages, I tried the Paraliminal and it did sort of work… there was a distinct increase in dream-volume (I mean as if dreams had a volume knob and it was turned higher)… more dream-loudness… 😕 > > What the world needs is a sophisticated 4 CD dream course taught by experts, if such experts do in fact exist and could be persuaded to share their abilities… > > Yowww.. I would love to have one substantial insight or thought process per sleep cycle…😛 😛 > > To much mind crud clogging up the world’s subconscious plumbing…☹ Laberge would be one of them. If you get lucid you can do some of that stuff. ---
**Author:** ![MuskCloud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f07891/32.png) [@MuskCloud](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MuskCloud)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2007, 8:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dreams-your-subconscious-at-work-or-messages-from-the-great-beyond/1655/28 "2007-06-11T20:08:50Z")
> [@tacitus](#): > > You ocassionally hear about “dream meetings” where two (or more ?) people are together in the same dream at the same time. Fascinating. Are you talking about some kind of telepathic connection? Meetings on astral planes - some believe dream worlds and the astral plane are one and the same? It’s never happened to me, but meeting in dreams must blow all the social networks on the internet out of the water. I sure would love to invoke one of those dreams, and then catch up with them in the waking world. Spooky 😮 😃 > [@](#): > > … maybe certain cultures know how to invoke dream processes better than we do? Google for “Senoi”. They’re the Dream People of Malaysia. Apparently they are immune from psychotic behaviour, have no crime and no mental illness of any description. If true, us “dream primitives” have a lot to learn. > [@](#): > > What the world needs is a sophisticated 4 CD dream course taught by experts, if such experts do in fact exist and could be persuaded to share their abilities… What a world it would be. Psychic development would advance in leaps and bounds. I guess it all depends on your definition of “expert”, but the Lucidity Institute has training courses often offered as a package with the purchase of one of their lucid dream induction devices (DreamLight or NovaDreamer). So far, most of the programs have been held in California, so they’re out of geographical range for me. Guess I’ll have to do this alone. Musk ---
**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2007, 8:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dreams-your-subconscious-at-work-or-messages-from-the-great-beyond/1655/29 "2007-06-11T20:18:44Z")
> [@MuskCloud](#): > > Fascinating. Are you talking about some kind of telepathic connection? Meetings on astral planes - some believe dream worlds and the astral plane are one and the same? It’s called shared dreaming too.. > [@MuskCloud](#): > > Google for “Senoi”. They’re the Dream People of Malaysia. Apparently they are immune from psychotic behaviour, have no crime and no mental illness of any description. If true, us “dream primitives” have a lot to learn. Laberge mentions them in his book ETWOLD. But if I recall well they don’t really exist or there is some doubt about them! > [@MuskCloud](#): > > What a world it would be. Psychic development would advance in leaps and bounds. I guess it all depends on your definition of “expert”, but the Lucidity Institute has training courses often offered as a package with the purchase of one of their lucid dream induction devices (DreamLight or NovaDreamer). So far, most of the programs have been held in California, so they’re out of geographical range for me. Guess I’ll have to do this alone. > > Musk They’ve (Lucidity Institute) got dream seminars in Hawaii… perhaps Gegogi can attend one for us! ---
**Author:** ![tacitus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@tacitus](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tacitus)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2007, 11:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dreams-your-subconscious-at-work-or-messages-from-the-great-beyond/1655/30 "2007-06-11T23:33:40Z")
It would be good enough if we could have possibilities such as: dream the same dream three times, in each one I have resolved some limiting belief, how would each dream unfold, like, how would the same day play out if an “identity level belief” shifted… ? Say, 1. I am ungodly ugly… how would I learn to cope with that ? (file under Ericksonian “ordeals”… he’d actually put people through such wringers… so much for kindly old uncle Milton) 2. I am hypnotically beautiful… nobody can take their eyes off of me… what’s that all about… 3. I am me but stark naked for the whole day and for some reason I don’t get arrested but I have to live out an entire day with the whole world checking out my every flaw, and I have to live it just like a regular day.. no hiding… Imagine the emotional and imaginative process of going through those experiences… what you would be like after… 😮 [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dreams-your-subconscious-at-work-or-messages-from-the-great-beyond/1655.md?page=1)