# Dropping by to say HI **URL:** \ **Category:** A314 Insider's Club\ **Created:** [September 3, 2010, 10:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dropping-by-to-say-hi/41332 "2010-09-03T10:51:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Sucesos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@Sucesos](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Sucesos)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2010, 10:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dropping-by-to-say-hi/41332/1 "2010-09-03T10:51:22Z")
Folks Just completed some days ago my order, still to arrive but that should happen soon. What’s in the mix? A314 (that’s why I’m here!) IS (regular strength) P79 (to go, 37.5mg dose) IO (regular strength) AMMO (regular stregth as well) Status signals: late 40’s male, pretty Alpha although with Beta slippages (more on this below), good job and economic position, and high respect in my trade amongst peers. What’s all this for? **Regaining someone back.** Situation: been divorced for over a year and early in 2010 a new bird flew past my nest that rocked the boat, and I mean seriously rocked it. Lots of congruence, she has an Alpha signature but some of her behavior was of the deep Beta type (e.g., emotionally weakness with slight hints of depression at times). She’s also coming from a LTR. So we hit the road running, slowly intitally and later building full rapport. Not quite in a relationship (hope you get me here) but working towards it. Issue: as it happens even to the best, when you see a prize you really want to grab you backslide and start engaging into compliance mode. It wasn’t overt but you get me. From the outside it might have looked as a pull-push behavior, but on the inside I knew I was conceding territory and spaces and taking too much of her shit. I knew it yet I was doing it. Happens. Like becoming her therapist (!) Part of it I think comes from my status, she was seeing in me the dude you would look into for advice (the been there, done that thing) but it was not right. I felt uncomfy yet got dragged by the fact that I knew, deep inside, that she is (or was?) the one. Simple as that. You know it the instant you see it. So at some stage later in July things came to a halt. She kinda hit me with the shit of some chemistry not being there, like fuck we just synergise to such a degree, never feel with someone before like with you, I feel this deep connection, I’m so glad that we met… yet boom, all went bust. Her take is that us 2 are a high-risk strategy and my take is that she kind-of closed herself in her doubts, and the best way is to acknowledge you don’t tick a box. Made artificially, of course, a box you would never tick. I know there have been elements into this outcome due to my internal circuitry going bust, not keeping my cool. I’m not that fool or a schoolboy not to accept my share of the cake. Can understand why that happened. Game plan, as said, is to **get her back** to me. I know many of you will say (with reason) it’s almost an impossible task, but we keep on seeing each other regularly, there is this connection but fuck, it’s like not clicking anymore on her side. I’m back to my usual game since the breakdown and want to check-out whether the mones element can help walk that extra, final mile. I will post a journo here to keep you in the loop and share my experience. It’s gonna be a tough one. Now, would like even before I start experimenting this week the dosages/combos out in the wild (target is off visiting some friends abroad) to get your views on application, dosage and mixes. If anyone here has been through the same dilemma, know your results and how they were achieved. I’ll do my bit by posting feedback. Let the game begin..! ---
**Author:** ![Jasmin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jasmin/32/287_2.png) [@Jasmin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jasmin)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2010, 1:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dropping-by-to-say-hi/41332/2 "2010-09-03T13:37:38Z")
> [@Sucesos](#): > > Folks > > Just completed some days ago my order, still to arrive but that should happen soon. > > What’s in the mix? > > A314 (that’s why I’m here!) > IS (regular strength) > P79 (to go, 37.5mg dose) > IO (regular strength) > AMMO (regular stregth as well) > > Status signals: late 40’s male, pretty Alpha although with Beta slippages (more on this below), good job and economic position, and high respect in my trade amongst peers. > > What’s all this for? **Regaining someone back.** > > Situation: been divorced for over a year and early in 2010 a new bird flew past my nest that rocked the boat, and I mean seriously rocked it. Lots of congruence, she has an Alpha signature but some of her behavior was of the deep Beta type (e.g., emotionally weakness with slight hints of depression at times). She’s also coming from a LTR. So we hit the road running, slowly intitally and later building full rapport. Not quite in a relationship (hope you get me here) but working towards it. > > Issue: as it happens even to the best, when you see a prize you really want to grab you backslide and start engaging into compliance mode. It wasn’t overt but you get me. From the outside it might have looked as a pull-push behavior, but on the inside I knew I was conceding territory and spaces and taking too much of her shit. I knew it yet I was doing it. Happens. Like becoming her therapist (!) Part of it I think comes from my status, she was seeing in me the dude you would look into for advice (the been there, done that thing) but it was not right. I felt uncomfy yet got dragged by the fact that I knew, deep inside, that she is (or was?) the one. Simple as that. You know it the instant you see it. > > So at some stage later in July things came to a halt. She kinda hit me with the shit of some chemistry not being there, like fuck we just synergise to such a degree, never feel with someone before like with you, I feel this deep connection, I’m so glad that we met… yet boom, all went bust. Her take is that us 2 are a high-risk strategy and my take is that she kind-of closed herself in her doubts, and the best way is to acknowledge you don’t tick a box. Made artificially, of course, a box you would never tick. > > I know there have been elements into this outcome due to my internal circuitry going bust, not keeping my cool. I’m not that fool or a schoolboy not to accept my share of the cake. Can understand why that happened. > > Game plan, as said, is to **get her back** to me. I know many of you will say (with reason) it’s almost an impossible task, but we keep on seeing each other regularly, there is this connection but fuck, it’s like not clicking anymore on her side. I’m back to my usual game since the breakdown and want to check-out whether the mones element can help walk that extra, final mile. I will post a journo here to keep you in the loop and share my experience. It’s gonna be a tough one. > > Now, would like even before I start experimenting this week the dosages/combos out in the wild (target is off visiting some friends abroad) to get your views on application, dosage and mixes. If anyone here has been through the same dilemma, know your results and how they were achieved. I’ll do my bit by posting feedback. > > Let the game begin..! Wow, you’re a fun writer. Almost like a good fiction writer (although what you say here obviously sounds true). What do you do for a living, if I may ask? Now if you didn’t say your problem may have been a positioning problem from your status, I might recommend A314. If you’re looking to engage in an LTR, that and IH would be great. However… I don’t know in this case. It’s a tougher cookie to crumble. A314 gives you a lot of status, but it also gives out that strong partner, almost parental vibe that can be great for attracting a women who’s serious. Thoughts everyone? ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2010, 4:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dropping-by-to-say-hi/41332/3 "2010-09-03T16:53:25Z")
I know how tough that can be. These types of relationships, are hard. I’m only going to give you [pheromone product](https://a314.com/shop/) advice based on my experiences. And remember that I’m a mid 20’s male that has half the life experiences that you’ve had. I do know that A314 for self and external effects will give you a more strong, dominant vibe. But that doesn’t mean that it’s a bully or a jerk, it signals protector/leader, it depends on how your personality dictates the interaction. Like Jasmin said, it gives you a lot of status, which in turn should help turn the table and the “balance of power” to you. And when I mean by power, its not dominance but the attraction towards you and that you’re being portrayed as the man. This isn’t being sexist, and saying women are inferior, but the solid, go to guy is what really women want, from my experiences. I know you just ordered but the IH recommendation that Jasmin gave is top notch, it will enhance what the A314 already has and it will continue to foster that deep feeling and connection that you two have shared. I also advise on the AMMO to give things a nice little kick. As for the P79, in my tests, P79 will drive the mood/vibe faster that the way its going. Meaning if she’s in a good mood, and feels great, then P79 would work. If she’s not then it can be a disaster, I’ve used it to an extent and it backfired on me. I’m contemplating on a to-go with it just so that I can apply it if I know the situation is going well, or there is a low risk chance I will encounter any negativity. This advice is solely for the purposes that you asked. These products can do so much more, but when the time is right, we can help you in other facets of your life, when it comes to pheromones. Good luck, and I hope things work out. ---
**Author:** ![Sucesos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@Sucesos](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Sucesos)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2010, 11:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dropping-by-to-say-hi/41332/4 "2010-09-03T23:43:15Z")
> [@Jasmin](#): > > Wow, you’re a fun writer. Almost like a good fiction writer (although what you say here obviously sounds true). What do you do for a living, if I may ask? > > Now if you didn’t say your problem may have been a positioning problem from your status, I might recommend A314. If you’re looking to engage in an LTR, that and IH would be great. However… I don’t know in this case. It’s a tougher cookie to crumble. > > A314 gives you a lot of status, but it also gives out that strong partner, almost parental vibe that can be great for attracting a women who’s serious. > > Thoughts everyone? Hey Jaz Thanks for your reply. What I do for a living..? I own a marketing and media analytics company, but been on top management positions in the industry beforehand. Came into it from a completely different angle (academia) which also proved, in its time, to be a 180 degree turn from what I was doing beforehand… (but then I’m not gonna say much as it would look a bit sci fi…) Get your message. Status is NOT the issue me-thinks, however I looked at A314 to help me avoid Beta slippage (fuck, why when you’re so attracted to someone to the point you CARE about the outcome you SCREW things up..?) Not so sure if IH is the solution as there is a huge communication between us, so she’s not a stranger (remember we have deep CONNECTION). My take as a newbie was A314 + IO/IS to bring down some walls, P79 as a booster and looked at AMMO just in case. Views..? Ta ---
**Author:** ![Sucesos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@Sucesos](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Sucesos)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2010, 11:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dropping-by-to-say-hi/41332/5 "2010-09-03T23:54:01Z")
> [@P51Mustang](#): > > I know how tough that can be. These types of relationships, are hard. I’m only going to give you pheromone product advice based on my experiences. And remember that I’m a mid 20’s male that has half the life experiences that you’ve had. > > I do know that A314 for self and external effects will give you a more strong, dominant vibe. But that doesn’t mean that it’s a bully or a jerk, it signals protector/leader, it depends on how your personality dictates the interaction. Like Jasmin said, it gives you a lot of status, which in turn should help turn the table and the “balance of power” to you. And when I mean by power, its not dominance but the attraction towards you and that you’re being portrayed as the man. This isn’t being sexist, and saying women are inferior, but the solid, go to guy is what really women want, from my experiences. > > I know you just ordered but the IH recommendation that Jasmin gave is top notch, it will enhance what the A314 already has and it will continue to foster that deep feeling and connection that you two have shared. I also advise on the AMMO to give things a nice little kick. > > As for the P79, in my tests, P79 will drive the mood/vibe faster that the way its going. Meaning if she’s in a good mood, and feels great, then P79 would work. If she’s not then it can be a disaster, I’ve used it to an extent and it backfired on me. I’m contemplating on a to-go with it just so that I can apply it if I know the situation is going well, or there is a low risk chance I will encounter any negativity. > > This advice is solely for the purposes that you asked. These products can do so much more, but when the time is right, we can help you in other facets of your life, when it comes to pheromones. > > Good luck, and I hope things work out. Hey P51 Thanks for your advice. Dude, you can be in your 60’s and be a shmuck or in your mid-20’s and live the life of a rock star. It’s how you live what dictates who you are, not chronological age. As said before to Jaz, looked at A314 as a means to avoid beta slippage. What do I mean here? The CARE factor. When you get into a relationship and you CARE about the outcome, you screw things BIG TIME. It does not mean that you give shit, but that you go at bat without FEAR of going out on strike 3 as you can always hit a home-run. It means that if it poofs it poofs. Seems an oxymoron given my target, but the issue here is that it poofed not because it had to be IMHO but because I likely planted the seeds for that happening, through paying too much attention to the outcome and hence sync’ing on beta BS for FEAR of failure. That’s about it. Thanks for the P79 advice. That is really helpful. On AMMO I thought well, why not give things a bit of a kick? Now, given I’ve ordered IO and IS, which one is best in terms of micing with A314? Thanks bud. ---
**Author:** ![thegentleman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/thegentleman/32/1770_2.png) [@thegentleman](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/thegentleman)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2010, 3:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dropping-by-to-say-hi/41332/6 "2010-09-04T03:00:52Z")
> [@Sucesos](#): > > On AMMO I thought well, why not give things a bit of a kick? Now, given I’ve ordered IO and IS, which one is best in terms of micing with A314? > > Thanks bud. All 3…seriously. My favorite work and play mix is A314 + [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) + IS + IH. I’ve also been tossing in some A1 in the mix via 25mcg and Dial Magnetic soap. Basically the mix would be Alpha male, sexy and attractive, charismatic and trustworthy. Good luck man. I know how hard it is to look back on a relationship and think to yourself, “why couldn’t I have met her at better time in my life, where I had already made these mistakes with someone else?” Well the simple fact is, she was the teacher that arrived at the right time. She was what you were ready for mentally and spiritually. So you should thank her for showing up in your life to teach you what you needed to be taught so you can move closer to another “one,” who will teach you something new. Keep reporting back, I love to read reports. ---
**Author:** ![Sucesos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@Sucesos](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Sucesos)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2010, 5:44am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dropping-by-to-say-hi/41332/7 "2010-09-04T05:44:11Z")
> [@thegentleman](#): > > All 3…seriously. > > My favorite work and play mix is A314 + Ammo + IS + IH. I’ve also been tossing in some A1 in the mix via 25mcg and Dial Magnetic soap. > > Basically the mix would be Alpha male, sexy and attractive, charismatic and trustworthy. > > Good luck man. I know how hard it is to look back on a relationship and think to yourself, “why couldn’t I have met her at better time in my life, where I had already made these mistakes with someone else?” > > Well the simple fact is, she was the teacher that arrived at the right time. She was what you were ready for mentally and spiritually. So you should thank her for showing up in your life to teach you what you needed to be taught so you can move closer to another “one,” who will teach you something new. > > Keep reporting back, I love to read reports. Thanks bud, will keep reporting of course. It could end-up being interesting “learning” material. At one point what you say crossed through my mind, that she was a sort-of “teacher” that showed-up at the right time. My take here is that would have been the case if she had left my life as a result of what (I believe) were my faults. But she’s still very much around. My senses tell me we were both at “that stage” in life were things couldn’t be, but… Looking at the past is defeating. What happened, happened. Looking at the future, the same. Can think of 1000 scenarios only for the 1001 to materialize. The only thing we have for real is the PRESENT, that’s my quest, my battleground. Let’s see what roles mones can play in shaping that present. BTW seems my shipment got lost by DHL so now I’m trying to trace it somehow. Bummer. 😠 ---
**Author:** ![Sucesos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@Sucesos](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Sucesos)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2010, 1:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dropping-by-to-say-hi/41332/8 "2010-09-06T13:08:18Z")
Hi folks, got my goodies today. Public thanks to Androtics for a complementary upping of my IS to 2x strength and sending me a sample of TUTH as gift. All welcome and to be thoroughly tested. So, game is now to start. Application today was A314 2 drops behind ears working through jawline and 2 shots of IS (one on each wrist). Will try to go with combos of 2 and see what’s up (A314+IS, A314+AMMO) and then add P79 to each of those, later alternate between IO and TUTH (so 3 up) to see how/if anything builds-up. A314 will be my ‘base’ mone, and will take it from there. Interesting to note on self effects. Nothing so far from the A314 but the IS is ‘deeply penetrating’ into my nostrils. Nice smell although a bit strong (and it was just 2 shots..!) As I’m already very much Alpha (hee hee) the impact of A314 was not noticeable at all (self effect). A very slight slant of headache, well, not quite a headache but as if something is brewing in there. Will go for some drinks PM and see what comes up. Bar I use to go has a nice waitress (with a plump frontal line… no need for pillows there) which gave me some deep eye-contact looks AM when I went past by for a mid-AM cappuccino (and I was wearing nothing then..!) Clearly married as her ring suggests, but I’m not jealous. Later… ETA 1. Self-effect (?) Just called my bank as there is a deposit which hasn’t cleared and I wanted to know what the fuck is going on. Call center leads me to some chimp who starts drilling me on all the security BS questions, looked as she needed a fucking blood sample from me. To cut the story short I really went OTT (not usual in me) even raising my voice to “for fuck sake can you just stop this nonsense and check what I’m asking for…” and she complied like a pussy cat, apologised. So she took my bit of abuse (again, not me) and provided all the information sweetly, of course after trying to get me under the sword of BS which I took none of. Call it telepathic mone effect… OK just a joke but for the record. Still noticing IS on me (and I used 2 sprays) and no headache, as I seemed to be drifting just after putting the mones on. 1. On the battlefield So, went for my cuppa of coffee and a slice of cake mid-PM. Get into the caffe-bar, everyone very cordial and ask for a cappuccino whilst walking to the bar area to pick a cake. All of the sudden, through the corner of my left eye, notice this young waitress who was writing tonite ‘specials’ on a wall chalk-board behind me… I turn around slightly and she locks to my eyes and smiles. OK, nothing too unusual there. Go to my table, sit down, wait for the coffee + cake. Now this chick (young, quite beautiful) continues writing but turns around and laser-steers at me, then steps-down, walks to the bar, giggles something to one of the dudes there, turns back and walks towards me locking, and I mean, locking her eyes on me. Fully dilated pupils, her mouth slightly open in awe, like if she’s seen Goerge Clooney FFS..! Goes back to the chalk-board, whilst I grin and do as if nothing. Whilst zipping my coffee she deploys this ritual of stepping down, hovering about, giggling some shit to other waiters, but fundamentally at each opportunity she transits past me she basically chain-locked on my eyes (it was SO damn evident) always with her mouth slighlty open, kind of jaw-drop. It was funny as shit, as I was taking none of it (just wanted to gauge the effect of the mix, was NOT going for a kill…) At one point she dissapers from view, not to return before I left. Maybe too overpowered..? Or maybe she was changing shifts..! BTW at one point one of the managers steps by her side and kind of reprimands her for wrongly writing the menu on the chalk-board. So clearly her concentration was elsewhere. As said above, 2 drops of A314 behind ears worked through to jawline + 2 shots of IS 2x on wrists. Exposure time since application 4 hours. Going to see my ex (not my return-to-me target, but former 1/2) in about 2 hours to fix some problem in her flat. That will be interesting..! ETA #2 Went to ex’s place. What happened..? Well, as for her not much of a change in attitude, in fact no change at all. Maybe it suggests she is accostumed to my natural Alpha signature, or that she couldn’t care less, or that the mones effect dissapeared (was there 7 hours post application, no re-application). HOWEVER what was impactful was the reaction from my 2 kids, esp. my youngest (only 3) which clinged to my neck like nothing I saw before, kissing it, very incredibly affectionate, a daddy’s girl like nothing I’ve seen from her before… it was very surprising (I’m her dad and know very well her normal reactions..!) My eldest, aged 6, was also very into me but not as marked as the youngest (although above normal). So guys… WATCH OUT. In the end it meant the mones were still there and showed the importance of conscious barriers… you would expect a 3 year old kid to be less guarded, much less embodied in conscious response as their cultural/societal bandwagon is still very much empty. Learning here. Later went for dinner to a nice restaurant, and I could see other punters being very friendly and talkative to me, including a waitress who was throwing smiles and propping for conversation at every possible opportunity (the place was crowded). I’m gonna change my mix for tomorrow and see how it goes. ETA #3 Combo today 2 drops A314 behnd ears working it through neck, 1 spray of AMMO on chest and 1 spray P79 under chin. Mucvh less fragant than yesterday combo with IS but let me tell you, AMMO smells on me like cat urine. Seriously. Went to have a coffee today and nothing much happened, but hey, better as all waiters were males. Let’s see how the evening progresses.