# e-Cigarette revisited. Got one!

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**Category:** Lounge\
**Created:** [April 30, 2009, 5:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/e-cigarette-revisited-got-one/28509 "2009-04-30T05:27:19Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![data4](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/data4/32/272_2.png) [@data4](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/data4)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2009, 10:16am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/e-cigarette-revisited-got-one/28509/101 "2009-05-30T10:16:09Z")

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Denec, while you wait for your VX2, have a look at this thread on the E-cig forum:

[Cart Mod for better refilling - e-cigarette-forum.com • The place for electronic cigarette reviews, news and chat](http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/tips-tricks/11421-cart-mod-better-refilling.html)

It’s specifically talking about a 901 cart, but I imagine it’ll work with just about any larger cartridge (larger than the dinky ones that come in the RN4081 I got from Smoking Everywhere). I haven’t tried it myself because I keep forgetting to grab an extra coffee stirrer from the store.

See if that helps any.

-D4

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**Author:** ![UKClubber](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ukclubber/32/920_2.png) [@UKClubber](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/UKClubber)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2009, 4:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/e-cigarette-revisited-got-one/28509/102 "2009-05-30T16:05:10Z")

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Hey, i just got my titan 510 the other day. I think its great i have the pcc with it do it charges on the go.

Has anyone tried making their own liquid from scratch? take a look here [Electronic cigarette - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-cigarette#Nicotine_solution) and it gives recipies for e-liquid, you can buy all the stuff needed for like 70% cheaper than what it costs to buy pre-made e-liquid

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**Author:** ![data4](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/data4/32/272_2.png) [@data4](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/data4)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2009, 7:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/e-cigarette-revisited-got-one/28509/103 "2009-05-30T19:24:42Z")

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> [@UKClubber](#):
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> Hey, i just got my titan 510 the other day. I think its great i have the pcc with it do it charges on the go.
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> Has anyone tried making their own liquid from scratch? take a look here [Electronic cigarette - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-cigarette#Nicotine_solution) and it gives recipies for e-liquid, you can buy all the stuff needed for like 70% cheaper than what it costs to buy pre-made e-liquid

Ha! Welcome to the club! 😃 My only experience with homemade liquid is taking unflavored stuff and mixing in candy flavors. So far, I haven’t had much luck, except for what I’m going to call a fluke with a peach experiment.

To be honest, purchasing ready-made liquid is still far cheaper than buying cigarettes and is worth the convenience.

-D4

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**Author:** ![denec](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/denec/32/1730_2.png) [@denec](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/denec)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2009, 10:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/e-cigarette-revisited-got-one/28509/104 "2009-05-30T22:56:41Z")

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> [@UKClubber](#):
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> Hey, i just got my titan 510 the other day. I think its great i have the pcc with it do it charges on the go.
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> Has anyone tried making their own liquid from scratch? take a look here [Electronic cigarette - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-cigarette#Nicotine_solution) and it gives recipies for e-liquid, you can buy all the stuff needed for like 70% cheaper than what it costs to buy pre-made e-liquid

Congrats! I loved the 510 in the beginning…if it was only battery issues I probably would have got the PCC but i also heard there is a problem with using the PCC with manual batteeries, something to do with not fitting exactly right and should not be used and i only have manual batteries

I still love my 510 for dripping at home…it rocks…like right now I am using it…when you drip it produces superb vapor with great throat hit and just tastes fantastic and lasts for about 2 cigs…i just cannot be bothered with this at work and out

I never bothered with making my own liquid…i just never got into that stuff…I am more of I want something that works and do not have patience LOL

I have found my favorite juices that really work good and sticking to that for now

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**Author:** ![UKClubber](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ukclubber/32/920_2.png) [@UKClubber](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/UKClubber)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2009, 11:42am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/e-cigarette-revisited-got-one/28509/105 "2009-05-31T11:42:09Z")

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Could you tell me what your fav juices are? Looking to get some now as my capsules are nearly out. I wana try a candy flavor next i think

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**Author:** ![denec](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/denec/32/1730_2.png) [@denec](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/denec)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2009, 2:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/e-cigarette-revisited-got-one/28509/106 "2009-05-31T14:01:24Z")

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> [@UKClubber](#):
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> Could you tell me what your fav juices are? Looking to get some now as my capsules are nearly out. I wana try a candy flavor next i think

right now my two favorite flavors are watermelon and redbull from [vapornine.com](http://vapornine.com)

if you like redbull energy drink it tastes exactly like it

the watermelon is also superb i got them both in medium strength

I also have vanilla vice which is good as well and not as sweet, but the taste is not very strong,

Other one you might want to try is RY4 form [myvaporstore.com](http://myvaporstore.com) it has a sweet taste but it not candy and a real nice kick to it i got that in 18mg

Those are all i have tried there are plenty of others out there but i have enoough bottles to last me for a while now

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**Author:** ![denec](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/denec/32/1730_2.png) [@denec](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/denec)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2009, 5:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/e-cigarette-revisited-got-one/28509/107 "2009-06-02T17:27:26Z")

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i got my VX2 yesterday and so far I am impressed…but way too early to give my real review lst time I did that about my 510 i ended up being dissapointed so in 2 weeks will give my real review after using it for a while

but will say this battery life is a huge improvement over 510…it kicks the 510 ass no joke that I can say…

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**Author:** ![Sillykitty](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sillykitty/32/1574_2.png) [@Sillykitty](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Sillykitty)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2009, 7:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/e-cigarette-revisited-got-one/28509/108 "2009-06-02T19:10:05Z")

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Nice! I was going to ask you if it was like the 901, which is a dumb question because you don’t have a 901 🙄

Do let us know how it goes though!!

Also, did you try my concoctions? I won’t be hurt if you don’t like them, I’m kind of new at this 🙂

And, data4, I would have sent you some too, but I think you’re probably way ahead of me with the e-liquid mixing, lol

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**Author:** ![UKClubber](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ukclubber/32/920_2.png) [@UKClubber](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/UKClubber)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2009, 7:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/e-cigarette-revisited-got-one/28509/109 "2009-06-02T19:21:56Z")

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just an update got some menthol e-liquid from totallywicked. It tastes really nice, its strong like a real cig. Only concern is on the warning label it says “very toxic by inhalation” i also inhale the vapour? does every1 else?

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**Author:** ![Sillykitty](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sillykitty/32/1574_2.png) [@Sillykitty](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Sillykitty)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2009, 7:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/e-cigarette-revisited-got-one/28509/110 "2009-06-02T19:23:20Z")

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> [@UKClubber](#):
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> just an update got some menthol e-liquid from totallywicked. It tastes really nice, its strong like a real cig. Only concern is on the warning label it says “very toxic by inhalation” i also inhale the vapour? does every1 else?

Of course! Thats the whole point!

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**Author:** ![UKClubber](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ukclubber/32/920_2.png) [@UKClubber](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/UKClubber)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2009, 7:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/e-cigarette-revisited-got-one/28509/111 "2009-06-02T19:27:33Z")

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i guess they have to say that to protect themselfs. If anyone is interested heres a link to a forum about the health studies on e-cigs [Health, Safety and E-Smoking - e-cigarette-forum.com • The place for electronic cigarette reviews, news and chat](http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/health-safety-e-smoking/)

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**Author:** ![denec](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/denec/32/1730_2.png) [@denec](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/denec)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2009, 7:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/e-cigarette-revisited-got-one/28509/112 "2009-06-02T19:59:05Z")

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> [@UKClubber](#):
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> just an update got some menthol e-liquid from totallywicked. It tastes really nice, its strong like a real cig. Only concern is on the warning label it says “very toxic by inhalation” i also inhale the vapour? does every1 else?

Oh yeah i inhale it LOL

only warning labels i get is do not drink it…or get on hands and keep away from pets and stuff like that

but i have got some liquid in my mouth and it don’t taste so great and i try to spit it out

i have also got it on my hands…it has not killed me it yet…though i usually wipe it off with a napkin if i can..or wash it off if near a sink

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**Author:** ![denec](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/denec/32/1730_2.png) [@denec](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/denec)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2009, 8:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/e-cigarette-revisited-got-one/28509/113 "2009-06-02T20:00:45Z")

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> [@Sillykitty](#):
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> Nice! I was going to ask you if it was like the 901, which is a dumb question because you don’t have a 901 🙄
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> Do let us know how it goes though!!
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> Also, did you try my concoctions? I won’t be hurt if you don’t like them, I’m kind of new at this 🙂
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> And, data4, I would have sent you some too, but I think you’re probably way ahead of me with the e-liquid mixing, lol

I have not had a chance to try it…will try them with my 510…these cartridges are lasting a much longer time with the VX2 which is a good thing…so not changing flavors as much…

so far still on my first battery…have not had to even change it yet…and i have taken 50-60 puffs i think i dont know i lost track..

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**Author:** ![Sillykitty](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sillykitty/32/1574_2.png) [@Sillykitty](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Sillykitty)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2009, 8:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/e-cigarette-revisited-got-one/28509/114 "2009-06-02T20:05:21Z")

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> [@denec](#):
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> but i have got some liquid in my mouth and it don’t taste so great and i try to spit it out

LOL, the chocolate one isn’t too awful if you get it in your mouth

> [@denec](#):
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> so far still on my first battery…have not had to even change it yet…and i have taken 50-60 puffs i think i dont know i lost track..

Wow!!! Nice!!!

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**Author:** ![data4](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/data4/32/272_2.png) [@data4](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/data4)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2009, 11:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/e-cigarette-revisited-got-one/28509/115 "2009-06-02T23:31:37Z")

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> [@Sillykitty](#):
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> And, data4, I would have sent you some too, but I think you’re probably way ahead of me with the e-liquid mixing, lol

Oh, I wouldn’t say that! You know that peach cobbler mix I made? Well, the reason I haven’t gotten your address to send it to is because the first few drips I smoked of it were a total fluke. The rest of that bottle completely sucks. I’ve been trying to adjust it here and there, but I’m coming up short.

So, rather than waste the last half of the 15 ml bottle of plain 36 mg, I dumped it into my TW bottle. TW’s flavor is so strong that dilution doesn’t hurt it too much.

I still try a few mix concoctions with flavor and VG, but I haven’t landed on anything worth sharing. The closest thing I came to bearable is an attempt at a RY4 clone with coffee, Bavarian Creme, and caramel, but I’m getting this slight, indescribable aftertaste that totally ruins it. I’m probably going to put the flavorings in the kitchen for use with cooking recipes and stick to premixed stuff. It’s still cheaper than cigarettes, so… 😉

-D4

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**Author:** ![denec](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/denec/32/1730_2.png) [@denec](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/denec)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2009, 12:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/e-cigarette-revisited-got-one/28509/116 "2009-06-03T12:53:47Z")

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ok so after using my VX2 for 2 days…i will say this…battery life is awesome…cartridge life is much better then 510…not as good as I was hoping but i can live with it…

very good vapor…but throat hit is not that good compared to the 510…and I really miss that throat hit

now if i never ever had a 510 I might never know what I missed…but not sure what to do..some say the atomizer needs to be broken in..but i did over 200 puffs and it should have broken in by now

how is the throat hit on the dse901?

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**Author:** ![Sillykitty](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sillykitty/32/1574_2.png) [@Sillykitty](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Sillykitty)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2009, 5:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/e-cigarette-revisited-got-one/28509/117 "2009-06-03T17:48:10Z")

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I guess its good, although the 901 is the only one I’ve ever tried, so it might be good or it might be crappy in comparison to the VX2 or the 510. So without having tried any others, I don’t know if I can really answer that.

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**Author:** ![data4](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/data4/32/272_2.png) [@data4](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/data4)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2009, 7:24am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/e-cigarette-revisited-got-one/28509/118 "2009-06-04T07:24:49Z")

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My 901 is my second e-cig, but I can only compare it to the Smoking Everywhere Gold (RN4081) mini. Throat hit, in my experience is more about the liquid, though I imagine the atomizer differences have an effect as well. Thing is, looking at the atomizer from the cart/mouthpiece side on both my models, they’re virtually identical. Not surprisingly, the throat hit when using the same liquid in each is the same. Basically, the stronger juices produce the stronger throat hits, and I’ve experienced some pretty intense hits from some juices and only slight from others. The heavy hitters have been TW Tobacco 24mg, Midwest Vapor’s RY4 and 555/State Express, and Liquid Express’ Cool Rush (menthol), each of the three at 36 mg. The weaker hits came from Liquid Express’ Artisan (cappucino flavor) at 18 mg and surprisingly, MWV’s Coffee at 36 mg. The median would be the Cola flavored I got from Liquid Express at 18 mg. Performance in both cigs was identical, for the most part.

You specifically asked about throat hit, but one notable difference between my two which affected throat hit is the difference in draw. The 901 has a very easy, almost effortless draw, while the RN4081 has a much firmer pull that causes fatigue in your cheeks if you’re doing a lot of puffing in a short amount of time. Switching to the 901 after using the 4081 causes me to draw really hard at first because of the difference, and those throat hits are obviously more intense.

Hope that helps!

-D4

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**Author:** ![Sillykitty](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sillykitty/32/1574_2.png) [@Sillykitty](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Sillykitty)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2009, 7:55am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/e-cigarette-revisited-got-one/28509/119 "2009-06-04T07:55:25Z")

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I’ve found that if the nic content is too high, it makes me kind of cough a little.

And cheek fatigue, huh? Lol, I know its not funny but it kind of is 😛 Maybe just consider it a form of facial exercise, you won’t have to worry about having flabby cheeks.

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**Author:** ![data4](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/data4/32/272_2.png) [@data4](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/data4)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2009, 8:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/e-cigarette-revisited-got-one/28509/120 "2009-06-04T08:00:53Z")

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> [@Sillykitty](#):
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> And cheek fatigue, huh? Lol, I know its not funny but it kind of is 😛 Maybe just consider it a form of facial exercise, you won’t have to worry about having flabby cheeks.

Well, just think of the last time you had a really thick milkshake. Ironically, that sort of cancels out whatever exercise you might be getting trying to suck that junk up. 😃

-D4

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