# Eat More Celery

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**Category:** Pheromone Theory & Molecules\
**Created:** [September 29, 2012, 2:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/eat-more-celery/56873 "2012-09-29T14:48:48Z")\
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**Author:** ![sexydork](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e19b73/32.png) [@sexydork](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sexydork)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2012, 2:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/eat-more-celery/56873/1 "2012-09-29T14:48:48Z")

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Celery will boost your natural [pheromone](https://a314.com/) output. Ask Cassanova.  
Juiced celery would be most optimum, but if you don’t have a juicer, just eat a bunch on a daily basis. You’ll have a lot more energy too.

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**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2012, 5:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/eat-more-celery/56873/2 "2012-09-29T17:07:31Z")

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Is this from reading, or are you speaking from experience? If from experience …

How much celery do you consume?

How long have you been consuming it?

And what are YOUR thoughts and findings?

Thanks! 😉

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**Author:** ![sexydork](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e19b73/32.png) [@sexydork](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sexydork)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2012, 10:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/eat-more-celery/56873/3 "2012-09-29T22:04:14Z")

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> [@M\_M](#):
>
> Is this from reading, or are you speaking from experience? If from experience …
> 
> How much celery do you consume?
> 
> How long have you been consuming it?
> 
> And what are YOUR thoughts and findings?
> 
> Thanks! 😉

I have always noticed a boost to my libido after drinking celery juice or even eating celery, due to the high amount of zinc, from what I understand, but I did not realize it boosted pheromone output until I read from several sources on the net that it does increase Andosterone, or not sure on spelling, but you can do your own research, then, instead of me being a liar if it doesn’t work for you, you can blame “them”.

I was amused to read that Cassanova supposedly ingested a lot of celery, and it was used to “medicinal” reasons long before it was considered a normal food to add to recipes. If I were you, I would do my own research and do like I did, just try it. It will only make you feel better.

Anyway, I have known for many years that, a lot of natural foods help with the whole sex function, like cucumbers boost testosterone, and when I make a fresh veggie juice drink out of several different veggies, like carrots,  
cucumbers, celery, maybe some cilantro, which is really good for circulation and cleaning the arteries, that, everything just works so much better, and that includes, sex, overall well being, which makes you more attractive, and you are more energetic, happier, healthier, etc. So maybe the best and least expensive thing to do is, get a juicer and drink more fresh veggie and fruit juice. Don’t take my word for it, just try it.

And meditate for a few minutes a day. And a good work out regime. Just a suggestion.

I only say that because, most people who work out on a regular basis and eat or drink a good healthy diet, are not the ones who hang out in forums looking for ways to be more attractive, they already are. I was, before a back and neck injury, but I was also one of those who tried Andron by Jovan many years ago, and I saw first hand how all sorts of woman would throw themselves at me, even married women, and ask me what that was I was wearing that smelled sooooo good. I go laid a lot just from wearing that stuff, so I know [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/) can work if it is the right recipe.

The only reason I think they quit making Andron, it worked too well. It was sort of unnerving. I remember going to a girls house wearing it and she wasn’t home, but her room mate was, and she as it turned out was wearing the female version of Andron. We talked for like five minutes and bam, we were getting it on. I never even thought twice about it, it was intense. But looking back, I can see with a more responsible older attitude, that was incredibly reckless, and just plain wrong. Especially when I thought of virtually everyone on the planet wearing Andron, and just screwing everyone in sight, daily.  
I think it worried a lot of people.

You can still buy Andron for one hundred to 350.00 on Ebay, but it doesn’t come up very often.

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**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2012, 12:37am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/eat-more-celery/56873/4 "2012-09-30T00:37:03Z")

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This has been discussed quite a bit in the appropriate forum section.

> [@Talk of the Stalk](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/talk-of-the-stalk/34939):
>
> I read online recently that celery has lots of androstenone. Would a steady diet of celery help pump up your [pheromone](https://a314.com/shop/) level, hence make you more attractive to the opposite sex? I have now integrated it into my diet to see!!

> [@](#):
>
> You can still buy Andron for one hundred to 350.00 on Ebay, but it doesn’t come up very often.

Andron is missed by many but not really for its pheromone content, that was pretty weak compared to whats offered now a days. It was the actual scent people adored. Certain scents can have a “pheromone like” affect all there own like pink or blue sugar. Hardly worth $100 let alone $350 in my opinion.

If you do a search there is a lot of reminiscing on Jovan andron around in the forum you may be interested in. 🙂

> [@](#):
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> Especially when I thought of virtually everyone on the planet wearing Andron, and just screwing everyone in sight, daily.  
> I think it worried a lot of people.

They had absolutely nothing to worry about. Pheromones don’t work that way. They don’t create attraction where none exists. They don’t make people lose control of there senses. What happened between you and that girl was a conscious choice on both your parts. Pheromone probably influenced it along but they didnt cause the encounter. That’s was the two of you.

Tisha

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**Author:** ![sexydork](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e19b73/32.png) [@sexydork](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sexydork)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2012, 6:50am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/eat-more-celery/56873/5 "2012-09-30T06:50:46Z")

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I have to disagree based on my own personal experiences. I agree that the scent itself probably had something to do with its effect, though I thought it was a little to “flowery” for men, but, I never heard any complaints from women.  
No, it was not mutual attraction, that woman in particular was not only not my type, but I had met her before, and considered her unattractive, maybe a one or two on a scale of one to ten, and she had bad teeth, and horrible breath as a result. She had pimples and was quite overweight, and was going through a nasty divorce with some redneck (her soul mate) and if you knew me back then, you know I could do way better, and I did. I think it worked really well for her in that particular instance, and made me feel like throwing out every conceived notion that she was not attractive. The fact we both were wearing it just made it ten times stronger. I guess I could have said no, but resisting it just seemed too hard, and pointless. Completely illogical.

The other girl I came to see, really was giving me the cold shoulder, as I was not really her type, in that, she was looking for a man who was more successful, more alpha male like than I. Yet I managed to shag her a couple of times as well. Also, there were several instances of my meeting married women, not cougars, but normal average housewives, who I know would never act or feel the way the did around me when I was wearing Andron, and  
it was dramatic how they lost all inhibition. I was not your typical hunk or GQ  
type back then, but I was good looking to I’d say most women, and more kind of boyishly cute, but shy, and when I was not wearing Andron, I did not get very many open advances with no holds barred type flirting. I even had a couple of housewives literally exposing themselves to me.

So no, it was Andron, 90%. Though it may not have been that way for all people, I found even unattractive people got good results. It was the perfect recipe, and even if the other person knew what you were wearing, it did not seem to matter.

> [@tisha23](#):
>
> This has been discussed quite a bit in the appropriate forum section.
> 
> [Talk of the Stalk](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/talk-of-the-stalk/34939)
> 
> Andron is missed by many but not really for its pheromone content, that was pretty weak compared to whats offered now a days. It was the actual scent people adored. Certain scents can have a “pheromone like” affect all there own like pink or blue sugar. Hardly worth $100 let alone $350 in my opinion.
> 
> If you do a search there is a lot of reminiscing on Jovan andron around in the forum you may be interested in. 🙂
> 
> They had absolutely nothing to worry about. Pheromones don’t work that way. They don’t create attraction where none exists. They don’t make people lose control of there senses. What happened between you and that girl was a conscious choice on both your parts. Pheromone probably influenced it along but they didnt cause the encounter. That’s was the two of you.
> 
> Tisha

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**Author:** ![sexydork](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e19b73/32.png) [@sexydork](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sexydork)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2012, 7:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/eat-more-celery/56873/6 "2012-09-30T07:19:50Z")

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Its odd to me that Jovan nor any ex employees ever offered any explanation as to why they stopped making it, but I would say that recipe would be worth millions. Though there may be some sort of immunity to it now days as people are so used to these products, and back then it was the first ever of such products made. There was some magic to it, for sure.

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**Author:** ![sexydork](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e19b73/32.png) [@sexydork](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sexydork)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2012, 7:35am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/eat-more-celery/56873/7 "2012-09-30T07:35:12Z")

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I read about a survey once that said 67% of ALL married women would cheat if given the “opportunity”. Maybe that doesn’t mean they would risk their marriage and do so, but Andron would certainly have given license to do so, where otherwise a mild attraction would pass without incident. I bet Jovan was given a heads up that they could be sued for wrecking marriages if they continued selling Andron, and that may be why there is no talk about it. That is my experience. I would never give it to a girlfriend or my wife because every guy in town would be hitting on her, where as, without it, they would just be silently lusting after her and checking her out as she passed by.

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**Author:** ![Misein](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Misein](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Misein)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2012, 4:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/eat-more-celery/56873/8 "2012-10-01T04:15:37Z")

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> [@sexydork](#):
>
> I have to disagree based on my own personal experiences. I agree that the scent itself probably had something to do with its effect, though I thought it was a little to “flowery” for men, but, I never heard any complaints from women.  
> No, it was not mutual attraction, that woman in particular was not only not my type, but I had met her before, and considered her unattractive, maybe a one or two on a scale of one to ten, and she had bad teeth, and horrible breath as a result. She had pimples and was quite overweight, and was going through a nasty divorce with some redneck (her soul mate) and if you knew me back then, you know I could do way better, and I did. I think it worked really well for her in that particular instance, and made me feel like throwing out every conceived notion that she was not attractive. The fact we both were wearing it just made it ten times stronger. I guess I could have said no, but resisting it just seemed too hard, and pointless. Completely illogical.
> 
> The other girl I came to see, really was giving me the cold shoulder, as I was not really her type, in that, she was looking for a man who was more successful, more alpha male like than I. Yet I managed to shag her a couple of times as well. Also, there were several instances of my meeting married women, not cougars, but normal average housewives, who I know would never act or feel the way the did around me when I was wearing Andron, and  
> it was dramatic how they lost all inhibition. I was not your typical hunk or GQ  
> type back then, but I was good looking to I’d say most women, and more kind of boyishly cute, but shy, and when I was not wearing Andron, I did not get very many open advances with no holds barred type flirting. I even had a couple of housewives literally exposing themselves to me.
> 
> So no, it was Andron, 90%. Though it may not have been that way for all people, I found even unattractive people got good results. It was the perfect recipe, and even if the other person knew what you were wearing, it did not seem to matter.

This was just too funny. 😃 “…she had bad teeth, and horrible breath as a result. She had pimples and was quite overweight, and was going through a nasty divorce with some redneck (her soul mate) …”  
But I have to agree with Tisha here. Either you had beer goggles on or had just been through such a dry spell that you’d fucked any mammal within a reasonable weight class. Been there myself. Sometimes it was just the fact I was flattered that some woman wanted me bad.

I’ll be blunt and use a harsh term now, forgive me ladies, but I have harpooned a few whales and I’m pretty sure none of them ever wore mones. Same goes the other way, I’ve caught the interest of women I couldn’t believe would go for me - also long before I ever knew mones existed. Sure it happens much more frequently now that I do have some kind of mix on at all times, but obviously there has to be something else there to begin with. Humor and personality creates attraction too and when drunk it can lead to some unexpected situations. Sober too of course but not to the same extent and certainly not easily.

And I don’t think any mone product that makes people lose control and render them helpless and victimized by their own lust exists. The outlandish hits where a woman really, totally throws herself at me do occur, but very rarely. And she’s bound to have had a little something besides soda pop that night too. It doesn’t happen at lunch time in the grocery store. If it ever does, I’ll run like bloody hell. That lady’s gonna boil a rabbit one day soon.

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**Author:** ![sexydork](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e19b73/32.png) [@sexydork](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sexydork)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2012, 9:22am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/eat-more-celery/56873/9 "2012-10-01T09:22:51Z")

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If you haven’t actually tried Andron then your words aren’t worth the wind they are delivered on. “I don’t think…” pretty well sums it up.

1. Why would I lie?
2. How is it you think you know more about me and my life than I do?
3. I have not seen any product including the ones that are highly praised on this site, that equal to what I experienced with Andron.
4. Opinions are like assholes, everyone has one, and most people who have one turns out to be one.

Sorry for sharing, didn’t know there would be so much hostility here…  
Good luck with your perseverance to be attractive. Might start on your manners… maybe get out more, spend less time on the computer.

Of course many of the posters here are obviously working for the company who sells the products endorsed here, so I should expect that sort of attitude. Fact is, buying all these expensive products still will not get you laid  
if you are unattractive inside and out. Honesty goes a long way though.

> [@Misein](#):
>
> This was just too funny. 😃 “…she had bad teeth, and horrible breath as a result. She had pimples and was quite overweight, and was going through a nasty divorce with some redneck (her soul mate) …”  
> But I have to agree with Tisha here. Either you had beer goggles on or had just been through such a dry spell that you’d fucked any mammal within a reasonable weight class. Been there myself. Sometimes it was just the fact I was flattered that some woman wanted me bad.
> 
> I’ll be blunt and use a harsh term now, forgive me ladies, but I have harpooned a few whales and I’m pretty sure none of them ever wore mones. Same goes the other way, I’ve caught the interest of women I couldn’t believe would go for me - also long before I ever knew mones existed. Sure it happens much more frequently now that I do have some kind of mix on at all times, but obviously there has to be something else there to begin with. Humor and personality creates attraction too and when drunk it can lead to some unexpected situations. Sober too of course but not to the same extent and certainly not easily.
> 
> And I don’t think any mone product that makes people lose control and render them helpless and victimized by their own lust exists. The outlandish hits where a woman really, totally throws herself at me do occur, but very rarely. And she’s bound to have had a little something besides soda pop that night too. It doesn’t happen at lunch time in the grocery store. If it ever does, I’ll run like bloody hell. That lady’s gonna boil a rabbit one day soon.

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**Author:** ![sexydork](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e19b73/32.png) [@sexydork](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sexydork)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2012, 9:35am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/eat-more-celery/56873/10 "2012-10-01T09:35:30Z")

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Wow. No obvious link to delete your account. Interesting. Just a forum to sell your products  
obviously.

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**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2012, 12:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/eat-more-celery/56873/11 "2012-10-01T12:13:13Z")

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> [@](#):
>
> If you haven’t actually tried Andron then your words aren’t worth the wind they are delivered on. “I don’t think…” pretty well sums it up.

Well for me its not a “I think” Its a “I know” I’m a pheromone expert and have been researching and coaching on pheromones for a long long time. I know whats in Jovan, I even still have a few bottles laying around so I am speaking from experience.

> [@](#):
>
> 1. Why would I lie?

No one said your lying. Seems you just have a few misconceptions as to what mones can do and what they cant do and how they work.

> [@](#):
>
> 1. I have not seen any product including the ones that are highly praised on this site, that equal to what I experienced with Andron.

Everyone is entitled to there favorites. No one is saying Andron is bad. It was a weak formula consisting of two mones that every single formula uses as a base now a days. They made that back when they didnt know much about how mones worked and yes they were ahead of there time. We are glad it worked for you. Its not much different then AMMO though. Actually ammo is a little stronger and has one more putative.

> [@](#):
>
> Sorry for sharing, didn’t know there would be so much hostility here…  
> Good luck with your perseverance to be attractive. Might start on your manners… maybe get out more, spend less time on the computer.

The only one being hostile is you. Just because we don’t agree with you that it was the Jovan doesn’t mean we are picking on you or saying it didnt happen. Your in a room full of some very serious long time researchers here. We know how pheromones work.

> [@](#):
>
> Of course many of the posters here are obviously working for the company who sells the products endorsed here, so I should expect that sort of attitude. Fact is, buying all these expensive products still will not get you laid  
> if you are unattractive inside and out. Honesty goes a long way though.

Neither Misein or I work for AD. We are just long time users of not only there products but products from other vendors as well.

What we are trying to tell you that no pheromone in the world will change your preferences or make you do something you otherwise wouldn’t do. Pheromones are a form of communication just like body language, linguistics or kinesthetics. They make up a small percentage of what influences attraction. There are other factors that come into play as well.

Tisha

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**Author:** ![Misein](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Misein](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Misein)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2012, 1:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/eat-more-celery/56873/12 "2012-10-01T13:57:25Z")

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> [@sexydork](#):
>
> If you haven’t actually tried Andron then your words aren’t worth the wind they are delivered on. “I don’t think…” pretty well sums it up.
> 
> 1. Why would I lie?
> 2. How is it you think you know more about me and my life than I do?
> 3. I have not seen any product including the ones that are highly praised on this site, that equal to what I experienced with Andron.
> 4. Opinions are like assholes, everyone has one, and most people who have one turns out to be one.
> 
> Sorry for sharing, didn’t know there would be so much hostility here…  
> Good luck with your perseverance to be attractive. Might start on your manners… maybe get out more, spend less time on the computer.
> 
> Of course many of the posters here are obviously working for the company who sells the products endorsed here, so I should expect that sort of attitude. Fact is, buying all these expensive products still will not get you laid  
> if you are unattractive inside and out. Honesty goes a long way though.

Shit, really? You thought I was hostile?  
I’ll say I’m sorry but you know it’s just words. I never meant any offense with any of what I said and let’s just leave it at that.

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**Author:** ![JohnM](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/848f3c/32.png) [@JohnM](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/JohnM)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2012, 2:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/eat-more-celery/56873/13 "2012-10-01T14:02:28Z")

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> [@](#):
>
> Wow. No obvious link to delete your account.

That’s the default way the vBulletin is configured.

> [@](#):
>
> 1. Why would I lie?

Given what you wrote, the obvious answer would be to increase the demand of Andron on ebay.  
But nobody is saying that you are lying. Till post #7 the stuff you wrote was something a skilled spammer could write. Given your emotional reaction afterwards, I however don’t think you could pull it off. So I think the chances are under 50% that you are lying.

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**Author:** ![Misein](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Misein](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Misein)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2012, 2:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/eat-more-celery/56873/14 "2012-10-01T14:04:27Z")

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I’ll also have to add the question - how do I come out as an employee of AD? Where did I say that this shit will do some tricks Jovan didn’t? Where do I encourage you to use this or that product AD sells?

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**Author:** ![sexydork](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e19b73/32.png) [@sexydork](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sexydork)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2012, 5:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/eat-more-celery/56873/15 "2012-10-01T17:58:52Z")

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> [@tisha23](#):
>
> Well for me its not a “I think” Its a “I know” I’m a pheromone expert and have been researching and coaching on pheromones for a long long time. I know whats in Jovan, I even still have a few bottles laying around so I am speaking from experience.
> 
> No one said your lying. Seems you just have a few misconceptions as to what mones can do and what they cant do and how they work.
> 
> Everyone is entitled to there favorites. No one is saying Andron is bad. It was a weak formula consisting of two mones that every single formula uses as a base now a days. They made that back when they didnt know much about how mones worked and yes they were ahead of there time. We are glad it worked for you. Its not much different then AMMO though. Actually ammo is a little stronger and has one more putative.
> 
> The only one being hostile is you. Just because we don’t agree with you that it was the Jovan doesn’t mean we are picking on you or saying it didnt happen. Your in a room full of some very serious long time researchers here. We know how pheromones work.
> 
> Neither Misein or I work for AD. We are just long time users of not only there products but products from other vendors as well.
> 
> What we are trying to tell you that no pheromone in the world will change your preferences or make you do something you otherwise wouldn’t do. Pheromones are a form of communication just like body language, linguistics or kinesthetics. They make up a small percentage of what influences attraction. There are other factors that come into play as well.
> 
> Tisha

I’m the one who is hostile, hehe. And you are a real researcher. Interesting.

“What we are trying to tell you that no pheromone in the world will change your preferences or make you do something you otherwise wouldn’t do.”

Pheromone  
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia  
A pheromone (from Greek φέρω phero “to bear” + hormone from Greek ὁρμή - “impetus”) is a secreted or excreted chemical factor that _ **triggers a social response in members of the same species** _. Pheromones are chemicals capable of acting outside the body of the secreting individual _ **to impact the behavior of the receiving individual** _.

Okay researcher,so, explain what is the point of buying and wearing pheromones then?  
Because, if pheromones do not persuade you to do something you otherwise wouldn’t do, or change one’s feelings about another person altogether, what are their  
purpose, and why would you buy and wear them? Every ad and the very definition of pheromone’s purpose is to change, enhance and alter someone’s moods. The whole point of the nature of [sex pheromones](https://a314.com/product-category/sensual-pheromones/) is to chemically put one in the mood to mate, where otherwise, no mating would occur. Ads don’t lie. Or do they? They say their product will make you more attractive , trustworthy, seemingly successful, confident, etc. Use this to gain trust ( what if you are not trustworthy, will it still work?) If the answer is yes, then that is a dangerous product, could cost someone their life, if the answer is no, then why bother buying it? Use this to be attractive and make women horny ( But first you must be attractive and have the ability to make women horny, or it will not work).  
So which is it, a big pack of lies, or do pheromones have the ability to change, alter and enhance people’s feelings about you? Sounds like hypocrisy to me.  
Is that how you justify taking peoples experiences ( and their posts) apart and throwing them back in their face, along with a little insult to boot? Because why? Your a researcher. Fuck that. I know what works for me, I don’t need your research double talk , it takes experience. I don’t have to prove anything to you, but believe what you want. If I took a sugar pill thinking it was an aphrodisiac and scored with a hottie later,  
you can sit there all day long and explain why it doesn’t work, but I’m the one getting laid, aren’t I? Where is the logic in that? There isn’t any, but yet, there it is. It’s in your mind, and pheromones are designed by nature to jack with your mind. Pheromones have the ability to give one license to do things they would not normally do. Period. It drops inhibitions like it drops pants in many cases. Oh I forgot, it doesn’t do that for you, so I’m not supposed to be having that experience. Darn. Again, if a product doesn’t do that, why take it? Because its interesting “research”?

I see Andron is quite a threat to you and your “research” if you have to negate other people’s experiences with it. If it didn’t work that well for you, I can’t imagine what you must look like, but I thought it was great, and nothing on this site or any other of the products out there today compare. My opinion of course, but, as a citizen of the planet earth, and a veteran who served his country for the right to freedom of speech, among other things, I think I am entitled to have that , respectfully without the mockery from so called self appointed authority figures ( people who have nothing better to do in their lives). I’ve tried them. They are mostly crap and a waste of money. Gave them to friends to try, same thing. So, I did my research too. Oh I’m sorry, did my experiences not agree with your research, or your experiences? It must be me then, is that what you are trying to tell me? Ammo is a dud in my book. But yet all these products claim they will make you “appear” to be way better than whatever than you really are, to other people.

You cannot accurately and objectively research something others do that is wholly a subjective experience. It’s like watching two people make love with your clip board in your hand, taking notes. Can’t be done. Oh you can try and convince people what you are doing is legit, and you know more about making love than the people who are making love, but…come on lady, bullshit is bullshit.

I’d have to say, all indicators in your words are saying you have never had a really good orgasm. Oh sure, you think you may have, once or twice, but you never really had a gooood orgasm. Feels good doesn’t it, totally invalidating another’s life experiences, because you think you know more than them.

Drink more celery juice. Spend less time in forums telling people they need to re- interprete their experiences because you know more about them than they do. Quit wasting money on high priced pheromones , and exercise.  
Quit pushing your endorsement products on people. It’s so transparent. “I don’t work for blah blah, but try this…” yeah, right.

Now, where is that DELETE ACCOUNT button…

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**Author:** ![Misein](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Misein](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Misein)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2012, 6:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/eat-more-celery/56873/16 "2012-10-01T18:59:44Z")

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I hope you find the delete button. I’d help you but I don’t know where it is either.

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**Author:** ![sexydork](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e19b73/32.png) [@sexydork](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sexydork)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2012, 7:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/eat-more-celery/56873/17 "2012-10-01T19:53:56Z")

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Thank you for that misein, you are a true jack ass in every sense of the word.  
Nice quote too, Really shows your true nature.

One more thing on Andron, less is more they say and too much pheromone is repelling, so, once again, I don’t see the logic in “Researcher’s” argument that Andron had little pheromone in it.

Anyway, back to what Captain Jack Ass was saying about my wearing beergoggles etc.  
I had many experiences with Andron. I ran a remodeling business for years, and one customer, a married airline stewardess, super hot, was showing me her house she wanted work on, and I was wearing Andron, and, I looked up at her and she was rubbing her middle finger up and down her crotch, and just staring at me. She kept saying how her husband would be out of town for the next 2 days, etc. and I was just like, wow,  
I really was caught off guard! I was so tempted to jump her bones, but I had a really fine girl I was seeing, and I had the feeling I was doing the wrong thing, so, I didn’t act on it.  
Later, the lady called and said she would no longer need my services, so no remodel job for me. I quit wearing it while I dated my girlfriend. But it was like that a lot. Wear Andron, get solicitations for sex, don’t wear it, nothing. Not every time I saw a woman, of course, but a lot. Another customer wearing some super short pants and no panties, bent over in front of me, and there it was in all its glory, staring back at me, also a married milf. And no that never happened not wearing Andron.

So say whatever the fuck you want Miserin, I came here to share my pheromone experiences, not get dumped on by some jerk wad smart ass.

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**Author:** ![Misein](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Misein](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Misein)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2012, 10:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/eat-more-celery/56873/18 "2012-10-01T22:40:54Z")

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I’m truly surprised that you found a way to be so utterly offended by what I wrote and it obviously brought out the very best in yourself.  
If you read all I’ve written again and then your own ramblings, you should find that the one who is being a rude jackass here is you.

I never said that pheromones don’t work, I said they don’t strip people of all their morals and defenses. I claim that they won’t make everyone fall hopelessly for just anyone. They help and they help a lot, but any old bum straight out of the gutter won’t be pulling supermodels after just dabbing a bit of mones on his gills.

Well, I’m not apologizing to you because you’re a moron and I don’t give a shit what you think but from the start I wasn’t insulting you at all. Now I am. Fuck you.

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**Author:** ![GabRulez](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gabrulez/32/394_2.png) [@GabRulez](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/GabRulez)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2013, 6:29am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/eat-more-celery/56873/19 "2013-04-08T06:29:32Z")

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Anyway Wikipedia is NOT a real source for informations. 😉

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**Author:** ![MagicGlen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eada6e/32.png) [@MagicGlen](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MagicGlen)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2013, 3:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/eat-more-celery/56873/20 "2013-06-01T15:32:02Z")

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all fair points especially the highlighted. the industry contradicts itself

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> Okay researcher,so, explain what is the point of buying and wearing pheromones then?  
> Because, if pheromones do not persuade you to do something you otherwise wouldn’t do, or change one’s feelings about another person altogether, what are their  
> purpose, and why would you buy and wear them? **Every ad and the very definition of pheromone’s purpose is to change, enhance and alter someone’s moods**. The whole point of the nature of sex pheromones is to chemically put one in the mood to mate, where otherwise, no mating would occur. Ads don’t lie. Or do they? **They say their product will make you more attractive , trustworthy, seemingly successful, confident, etc. Use this to gain trust ( what if you are not trustworthy, will it still work?)** If the answer is yes, then that is a dangerous product, could cost someone their life, if the answer is no, then why bother buying it? **Use this to be attractive and make women horny ( But first you must be attractive and have the ability to make women horny, or it will not work).**  
> So which is it, a big pack of lies, or do pheromones have the ability to change, alter and enhance people’s feelings about you? Sounds like hypocrisy to me

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