# Eat More Celery

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/eat-more-celery/56873>\
**Category:** Pheromone Theory & Molecules\
**Created:** [September 29, 2012, 2:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/eat-more-celery/56873 "2012-09-29T14:48:48Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 3\
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**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2013, 12:44am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/eat-more-celery/56873/21 "2013-06-02T00:44:37Z")

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> all fair points especially the highlighted. the industry contradicts itself

I don’t feel contradict is how I would describe it but I do understand what your saying. There are pheromone sites all over the net that use sex to sell and make claims and promises which mislead people. People buy the products expecting these promised results and when they don’t occur they automatically think mones are a scam.

It always surprises me when someone gets pissed because AD or the long time users here wont blow smoke up there ass as happened with the original poster LOL

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> Every ad and the very definition of pheromone’s purpose is to change, enhance and alter someone’s moods.

The definition of pheromone is not, nor ever has been to change enhance or alter. Its “a chemical substance emitted in the air that communicates and influences behavior”

Now influence does mean to affect but it doesn’t mean to alter or change.

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> They say their product will make you more attractive , trustworthy, seemingly successful, confident, etc. Use this to gain trust ( what if you are not trustworthy, will it still work?)

I’ll admit some pheromone websites will make the ridiculous claim that mones can “make you” into something your not. I don’t know if you noticed but Smartmones (the site which this forum belongs to) doesn’t. Probably because making these stupid promises will only generate one sale. When the product doesn’t do what all the hyped up claims suggest you wont come back for more. However if your told the truth as to what mones can do, it may not be as exciting as instantly getting laid by a 20 year old but you will see the true benefit of mones and how the can help improve your social life and once they do people are more likely to return for more. Yes this to is a marketing tactic but one based in science and truth not in hype.

As to the question of will pheromones make a untrustworthy person appear trustful. Only to an extent. Trust is earn through actions. The pheromone vibe of trust is more like communicating “give me a chance to prove I am trustworthy” We often talk about congruence here in the forum. If your not congruent or act in opposition of the vibe your communicating mones wont be effective.

Its the same with verbal communication really. If you say one thing but do another people wont trust you.

That is what pheromones do basically. They communicate information.

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> Use this to be attractive and make women horny ( But first you must be attractive and have the ability to make women horny, or it will not work).

This is just the way sexydork is interpreting what we are trying to say. Yes certain pheromones will make women arouses. Men and women are different though. Women don’t have sex with everything that aroused us. Men are more instinctual and women are more emotion driven.

Being attractive and being visually good looking are two different things that people confuse. Our visual preferences vary from person to person. Whats appealing to one person may not be to the next.

Attraction is the act of creating pull, interest, a liking. So we are not saying you have to be good looking or they wont work. Men are far more visually led then women. Sure when we see a good looking guy we take notice but we are more attracted to how you make us feel then how you look. Pheromones communicate using emotions, feelings. In this way they can increase attraction.

I discontinued responding to sexydork because his behavior was unattractive. He was closed minded and insulting from the start. He could look like Brad Pitt and be covered in tuth and I wouldn’t give him the time of day.

Tisha

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**Author:** ![MagicGlen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eada6e/32.png) [@MagicGlen](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MagicGlen)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2013, 4:54am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/eat-more-celery/56873/22 "2013-06-02T04:54:36Z")

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> [@tisha23](#):
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> I don’t feel contradict is how I would describe it but I do understand what your saying. There are pheromone sites all over the net that use sex to sell and make claims and promises which mislead people. People buy the products expecting these promised results and when they don’t occur they automatically think mones are a scam.
> 
> It always surprises me when someone gets pissed because AD or the long time users here wont blow smoke up there ass as happened with the original poster LOL
> 
> The definition of pheromone is not, nor ever has been to change enhance or alter. Its “a chemical substance emitted in the air that communicates and influences behavior”
> 
> Now influence does mean to affect but it doesn’t mean to alter or change.
> 
> I’ll admit some pheromone websites will make the ridiculous claim that mones can “make you” into something your not. I don’t know if you noticed but Smartmones (the site which this forum belongs to) doesn’t. Probably because making these stupid promises will only generate one sale. When the product doesn’t do what all the hyped up claims suggest you wont come back for more. However if your told the truth as to what mones can do, it may not be as exciting as instantly getting laid by a 20 year old but you will see the true benefit of mones and how the can help improve your social life and once they do people are more likely to return for more. Yes this to is a marketing tactic but one based in science and truth not in hype.
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> As to the question of will pheromones make a untrustworthy person appear trustful. Only to an extent. Trust is earn through actions. The pheromone vibe of trust is more like communicating “give me a chance to prove I am trustworthy” We often talk about congruence here in the forum. If your not congruent or act in opposition of the vibe your communicating mones wont be effective.
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> Its the same with verbal communication really. If you say one thing but do another people wont trust you.
> 
> That is what pheromones do basically. They communicate information.
> 
> This is just the way sexydork is interpreting what we are trying to say. Yes certain pheromones will make women arouses. Men and women are different though. Women don’t have sex with everything that aroused us. Men are more instinctual and women are more emotion driven.
> 
> Being attractive and being visually good looking are two different things that people confuse. Our visual preferences vary from person to person. Whats appealing to one person may not be to the next.
> 
> Attraction is the act of creating pull, interest, a liking. So we are not saying you have to be good looking or they wont work. Men are far more visually led then women. Sure when we see a good looking guy we take notice but we are more attracted to how you make us feel then how you look. Pheromones communicate using emotions, feelings. In this way they can increase attraction.
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> I discontinued responding to sexydork because his behavior was unattractive. He was closed minded and insulting from the start. He could look like Brad Pitt and be covered in tuth and I wouldn’t give him the time of day.
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> Tisha

he made good point about marketing though tuth is advertised as attracting people for sex. personally i am just interested in if they work i would not pay to find out and would not want a girlfriend who only wanted me cos of a pheromone. If they gc covers a product i would try it just to see. ok if one only wants sex i guess

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**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2013, 11:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/eat-more-celery/56873/23 "2013-06-02T11:41:45Z")

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> [@MagicGlen](#):
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> he made good point about marketing though **tuth is advertised as attracting people for sex.** personally i am just interested in if they work i would not pay to find out and would not want a girlfriend who only wanted me cos of a pheromone. If they gc covers a product i would try it just to see. ok if one only wants sex i guess

Here is how its advertised.

> **[Turn Up the Heat – Sensual Pheromone Spray Cologne for Men - Alpha A314](https://a314.com/product/turn-up-the-heat-tuth/)**
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> Turn Up The Heat contains 11 pheromones that kick androstenone up to the next level. It is our most complex formula after Alpha A314, originally designed for two purposes: (1) For dating, when you've seen each other a few times and want to escalate...

Yes it can turn up the heat and increase sexuality but no where does it say it will make them have sex with you. Its says “it will **help** attract women looking for a sexual encounter” It wont do all the work for you.

A girl would not want you just because of pheromones. That’s what we have been trying to tell you. Chemistry is part of attraction but not all of attraction. We are mammals but we are not animals. Are thoughts and actions are not driven by instinct alone like with animals.

Different pheromones communicate different things. They are useful beyond sexual encounters. Its fine to want to try before you buy but if your expecting women to drop and assume the position your going to be disappointed.

Tisha

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