# Econo introductory pack!! Suggestions? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [July 15, 2015, 12:50am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/econo-introductory-pack-suggestions/64656 "2015-07-15T00:50:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![matrix1973](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/43a26b/32.png) [@matrix1973](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/matrix1973)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2015, 12:50am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/econo-introductory-pack-suggestions/64656/1 "2015-07-15T00:50:48Z")
Ok all, for those who don’t want to jump in head first and pay $145 how about some suggestions for an Econo Intro Pack? In my cart right now I have the following To-Gos: Ammo Summer Instant Honesty Instant Shine [Turn Up the Heat](https://a314.com/product/turn-up-the-heat-tuth/) Your thoughts??? ---
**Author:** ![jit47](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c67d28/32.png) [@jit47](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jit47)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2015, 3:53am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/econo-introductory-pack-suggestions/64656/2 "2015-07-15T03:53:54Z")
Please state your age and goals with mones.That way we could give better advice. ---
**Author:** ![TheAttractor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/theattractor/32/575_2.png) [@TheAttractor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TheAttractor)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2015, 3:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/econo-introductory-pack-suggestions/64656/3 "2015-07-15T15:05:26Z")
OP, I like you Econo Intro Pack idea, but the contents clash with each other somewhat. TUTH is not advised for young men (except in the bedroom), and Ammo Summer is too soft to be helpful to older men. So each demographic will be getting one product that won’t be of much use to them. Perhaps it can be something more like this: Ammo regular Instant Shine [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) Instant Honesty ---
**Author:** ![Spectrum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9fc29f/32.png) [@Spectrum](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Spectrum)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2015, 6:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/econo-introductory-pack-suggestions/64656/4 "2015-07-15T18:12:12Z")
> [@matrix1973](#): > > Ok all, for those who don’t want to jump in head first and pay $145 how about some suggestions for an Econo Intro Pack? > > In my cart right now I have the following To-Gos: > Ammo Summer > Instant Honesty > Instant Shine > Turn Up the Heat > > Your thoughts??? If your goals are fulfilled with above , go ahead . If you think u may need others too of introductory pack later. Then think again. So imo u should get ur goals fixed , what do u want from pheros, then decide. Take care nd keep posting ---
**Author:** ![fezazaryab2107\_gmail.com](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/919ad9/32.png) [@fezazaryab2107\_gmail.com](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/fezazaryab2107_gmail.com)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2015, 7:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/econo-introductory-pack-suggestions/64656/5 "2015-07-15T19:55:19Z")
Hi want to know the food to created human phero ---
**Author:** ![fezazaryab2107\_gmail.com](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/919ad9/32.png) [@fezazaryab2107\_gmail.com](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/fezazaryab2107_gmail.com)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2015, 7:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/econo-introductory-pack-suggestions/64656/6 "2015-07-15T19:56:23Z")
Hi tell me I heard that real phero stink n make u mad ---
**Author:** ![matrix1973](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/43a26b/32.png) [@matrix1973](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/matrix1973)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2015, 3:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/econo-introductory-pack-suggestions/64656/7 "2015-07-16T03:25:45Z")
> [@fezazaryab2107\_gmail.com](#): > > Hi tell me I heard that real phero stink n make u mad Are you serious? ---
**Author:** ![jit47](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c67d28/32.png) [@jit47](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jit47)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2015, 5:30am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/econo-introductory-pack-suggestions/64656/8 "2015-07-16T05:30:07Z")
[fezazaryab2107@gmail.com](mailto:fezazaryab2107@gmail.com) =hanky panky? ---
**Author:** ![jit47](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c67d28/32.png) [@jit47](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jit47)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2015, 5:33am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/econo-introductory-pack-suggestions/64656/9 "2015-07-16T05:33:27Z")
> [@fezazaryab2107\_gmail.com](#): > > Hi tell me I heard that real phero stink n make u mad lol @ that bro science.None of the consumer line mones smell bad. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2015, 11:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/econo-introductory-pack-suggestions/64656/10 "2015-07-16T11:40:27Z")
This is a good spread of basic pheros for attraction/dating but a bit short for work/professional situations but if you are looking to meet and get to know someone its just fine. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![matrix1973](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/43a26b/32.png) [@matrix1973](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/matrix1973)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2015, 2:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/econo-introductory-pack-suggestions/64656/11 "2015-07-16T14:30:17Z")
> [@mobocaster](#): > > This is a good spread of basic pheros for attraction/dating but a bit short for work/professional situations but if you are looking to meet and get to know someone its just fine. 🙂 What would make for good work/pro situations? Other than the elusive A314? Anything comparable? ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2015, 2:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/econo-introductory-pack-suggestions/64656/12 "2015-07-16T14:47:56Z")
[P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/) and IH/P74 is good for promoting trust/confidence and IG would add some status - but its more the smart/social kind, P75 will give IG more status impact but none are the all-round cool/collected/capable/in-control vibe of A314. ---
**Author:** ![matrix1973](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/43a26b/32.png) [@matrix1973](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/matrix1973)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2015, 5:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/econo-introductory-pack-suggestions/64656/13 "2015-07-16T17:01:52Z")
> [@matrix1973](#): > > Ok all, for those who don’t want to jump in head first and pay $145 how about some suggestions for an Econo Intro Pack? > > In my cart right now I have the following To-Gos: > Ammo Summer > Instant Honesty > Instant Shine > Turn Up the Heat > > Your thoughts??? Finally placed first order, so I thought I would update everyone. I gave up the idea of an Econo Introductory Pack. I think the Gift Certificate has mones in it- made me just want to spend money!! LOL. I purchased as follows: - Ammo x2 Regular Scent- (Since Im old and everything, needed the x2 😛) - [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/)- (2 bottles. One for me and one for wifey) - CTTM (Communication enhancement) - TUTH (Self-explanatory - MX297 (Confused on expected results, but seemed a lot like A314) - MX353 (Heh) - P94 (Freebie) Thoughts? Awesome Non-“Econo Introductory Pack” or what? M$ ---
**Author:** ![TheAttractor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/theattractor/32/575_2.png) [@TheAttractor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TheAttractor)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2015, 5:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/econo-introductory-pack-suggestions/64656/14 "2015-07-16T17:17:52Z")
> [@matrix1973](#): > > Finally placed first order… > > - MX297 (Confused on expected results, but seemed a lot like A314) > - MX353 (Heh) I own these two, so I’ll give you the insider’s review. MX297 is a “life of the party” [pheromone](https://a314.com/shop/). It only has _one_ thing in common with A314: people look up to you somewhat. But the reasons for that are very different. A314, you already know. MX297 makes people look up to you because you’re so damn fun. I once sang karaoke while wearing that, and the whole bar was waving in tune with the song. Guys will give you high-fives and girls will be more willing to dance with you (the non-sexual kind, like swing, not grinding). Just remember than this pheromone is about fun, not sexual attraction. MX353 is advertised as a alpha-male sexual attractant. In my experience, that has not been the case; Ammo more fitting for that. But MX353 was a strong touch boundary blurrer. Physically escalating becomes a snap. Women hugged me very closely and pressed into me while dancing, despite having met me less than an hour ago. They also showed no discomfort when I touched them playfully. It’s almost like they trusted me not to misinterpret those things for romantic interest. But since it contains androstenone, there is a high risk of OD’ing. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2015, 5:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/econo-introductory-pack-suggestions/64656/15 "2015-07-16T17:36:17Z")
Yup - [MX297](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/mx297/) is the polar opposite of A314. Massive fun/social engagement in the right situations but no long term status or bonding properties. Pair with TUTH to sexualise it but anything containing Rone can wreck it completely. MX353 - Hard-hitting sexual/attraction. This is not hearts and flowers juice, more like wild women in dark dirty clubs. Expect to ghost/OD at the start of the night but it becomes more tasty as things unravel. Pair with A314 for a more mature status/sexual impact. ---
**Author:** ![matrix1973](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/43a26b/32.png) [@matrix1973](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/matrix1973)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2015, 8:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/econo-introductory-pack-suggestions/64656/16 "2015-07-16T20:02:58Z")
Argh 😕, I thought I was getting [MX297](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/mx297/) in place of A314. I’m kind of a “Turn up the Fun” guy in social settings as it is. So may have spent unnecessarily on the MX297. That said, what is a good replacement for A314 since no one knows when it will reappear? Thanks, M$ ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2015, 9:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/econo-introductory-pack-suggestions/64656/17 "2015-07-16T21:21:44Z")
> [@matrix1973](#): > > I’m kind of a “Turn up the Fun” guy in social settings as it is. So may have spent unnecessarily on the MX297. Nope! - that’s **exactly** the mindset to have when using [MX297](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/mx297/) - The harder you work it, the more it delivers! 😃 No real alternative to A314 - that’s why its such a standout product. There have been some hints in the last few weeks that our wait may be shorter rather than longer. All our fingers are crossed! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![matrix1973](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/43a26b/32.png) [@matrix1973](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/matrix1973)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2015, 10:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/econo-introductory-pack-suggestions/64656/18 "2015-07-16T22:12:43Z")
Thanks for the info. Can’t wait until tomorrow! (told you the GC- must give off mones. I paid for next-day shipment) Now to figure out which mone to try first??? Friday at the office fun and then home with the wife! Any suggestions? ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2015, 12:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/econo-introductory-pack-suggestions/64656/19 "2015-07-17T00:25:10Z")
Lay-off the overt sexuals as work is unlikely to be the best environment for them. [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/), IS, CTTM are all quite viable. I’d suggest starting with just one product at a time so you get an idea of how each works individually but its up to you.