# Edge spray and Npa smell too strong: how much should I use? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [August 7, 2006, 9:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/edge-spray-and-npa-smell-too-strong-how-much-should-i-use/557 "2006-08-07T21:43:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![MHarris](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mharris/32/2107_2.png) [@MHarris](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MHarris)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2006, 3:04am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/edge-spray-and-npa-smell-too-strong-how-much-should-i-use/557/21 "2006-08-08T03:04:13Z")
MX100 and MX99 are also fun ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2006, 4:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/edge-spray-and-npa-smell-too-strong-how-much-should-i-use/557/22 "2006-08-08T16:51:20Z")
> [@MHarris](#): > > I don’t know if I’d call A314 “fun”. The only “fun” thing about it is getting as much compliance as you do. Kind of like an almost magical “yes” formula (in terms of what it does for me, and many of it’s users) > > However, it does what it does in a very stable, straightforward manner. Emotionally, it ranges from neutral to serious. > > Indeed, Ishine, MX101 and high nol (Spaceland) type product would be far more “fun”. > > -None isn’t necessarily “fun” emotionally, either. Watching the reactions can be “fun”, though, depending on your temperament. 😉 im curious as to your typical pheromone day, mr Harris… do you wear them yourself, and what has been some of your personal favorite mixes? (getting a feel for _your_ temperment 😉 ) ---
**Author:** ![phero-za](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phero-za/32/1539_2.png) [@phero-za](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/phero-za)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2006, 7:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/edge-spray-and-npa-smell-too-strong-how-much-should-i-use/557/23 "2006-08-08T19:07:36Z")
So .. What reactions could i expect if i go for the -none , say in a club for instance on a 2-3 drop dose? ---
**Author:** ![Rob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/838e76/32.png) [@Rob](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rob)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2006, 9:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/edge-spray-and-npa-smell-too-strong-how-much-should-i-use/557/24 "2006-08-08T21:53:05Z")
> [@MHarris](#): > > I don’t know if I’d call A314 “fun”. The only “fun” thing about it is getting as much compliance as you do. Kind of like an almost magical “yes” formula (in terms of what it does for me, and many of it’s users) > > However, it does what it does in a very stable, straightforward manner. Emotionally, it ranges from neutral to serious. > > Indeed, Ishine, MX101 and high nol (Spaceland) type product would be far more “fun”. > > -None isn’t necessarily “fun” emotionally, either. Watching the reactions can be “fun”, though, depending on your temperament. 😉 Yep thats right =) Thats the reason I’m a -none fanatic.. I like shocking people.. and seeing the reactions. I’d opt to go for more comfort if I found that the chick was actually cool enough and someone I liked. For some reason I find that I just click easily with phillipino chicks. I felt like only having like 4 sprays of IO, nothing sexual or comforting, but it did make me feel more impulsive. In some cases it wasn’t good as I found out my order of MX101 didn’t come through the mail or was being processed on time or whatever in my workplace, so I instantly freaked out.. and felt like my blood was hot and my nerves were doing the talking as if I took 4 triple shots of espresso. Then again I spoke with a few phillipino’s.. one cute one cut my hair (I love getting haircuts), another was a coffee stand lady and some other worker at my work. Maybe not the IO, but it must be some sort of magical touch phillipino women have =) Mharris do you guys have any alpha -nol stronger than 50 mcg’s? If so I’m just trying to imagine what it’d be like on a massive MASSIVE overdose. ---
**Author:** ![Rob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/838e76/32.png) [@Rob](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rob)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2006, 9:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/edge-spray-and-npa-smell-too-strong-how-much-should-i-use/557/25 "2006-08-08T21:54:50Z")
> [@MHarris](#): > > MX100 and MX99 are also fun I have PMX99, just haven’t gotten down to testing it yet =) I wonder what its like. ---
**Author:** ![Rob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/838e76/32.png) [@Rob](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rob)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2006, 9:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/edge-spray-and-npa-smell-too-strong-how-much-should-i-use/557/26 "2006-08-08T21:58:40Z")
> [@phero-za](#): > > why would somebody want to od ? Sorry for asking all these stupid questions but its the fist place i can ask and get a un bias answer. I think ‘bias’ is the word im looking for ,correct me if im wrong > > i appreciate it alot Theres a couple reasons I could say. 1. You OD on purpose to test the limits of what amounts per pheremone type are good for you. 2. You also OD, especially on pheremone of your choice if you especially enjoy shocking people " a little." =) 3. OD’s do not always have to be bad.. in fact in some ways it can be beneficial to your situation, of course theres always pro’s and con’s.. you gotta find out what those are for you though. For example.. people do not like -none OD’s because they cannot or do not care to handle some of the negative reactions that go with it.. However.. from my point of view i do not care, as I only care for the positive things it does do for me. That is all =) ---
**Author:** ![Rob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/838e76/32.png) [@Rob](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rob)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2006, 10:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/edge-spray-and-npa-smell-too-strong-how-much-should-i-use/557/27 "2006-08-08T22:02:53Z")
> [@Rbt](#): > > As far as a cover. Go with what you like at first, until you find one that the girls love (and you can stand). And go easy with it. And remember what natural body odor “stinks” bad to you may be a turn-on to the opposite sex. Just keep it from being overwhelming. A local radio station here once asked women what kind of guy turns them on and most responded “(sweaty) construction worker!” > > A unique cologne/EO/scent is a good idea too. Find something off the beaten path if you can. It can help to create an “anchor” to the (hopefully) good feelings others get and you personally (or at least that scent). Check out DST’s Pheros. It’s unique, very rare, and damn good in many of our opinions (and available only at LS). Sweaty construction worker.. Thats a cool idea. In fact I find that when I “work out” and then after I’m done, sometimes instead of showering I’ll just go out to eat and the pheremones generated from that are good enough to give IOI’s without wearing synthetics. Then of course if I do shower, I simply just rinse off with water to get the sweat off.. so I may leave extra natural pheremone residue on the skin. ---
**Author:** ![Rbt](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/rbt/32/2066_2.png) [@Rbt](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rbt)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2006, 3:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/edge-spray-and-npa-smell-too-strong-how-much-should-i-use/557/28 "2006-08-10T03:40:50Z")
> [@MHarris](#): > > Did you hear real people saying that live? > > Most women do not respond well to construction worker’s catcalls. Surely, if this is true, they meant “silent construction workers”. It was a call-in talk (gossip) type show (their "Sex Thursday segment…), and yes they said it live on the air. About three callers out of seven (all female). 50,000 watt station from a major metropolitan area. And it was “sweaty” type, as a visual image. I actually don’t hear many catcalls from anyone anymore when a “hottie” walks past workers now. It’s a thing of the past stereotype I think. At least here in the midwest. ---
**Author:** ![phero-za](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phero-za/32/1539_2.png) [@phero-za](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/phero-za)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2006, 1:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/edge-spray-and-npa-smell-too-strong-how-much-should-i-use/557/29 "2006-08-18T13:57:46Z")
I have read that its better to some times dab and other times use the spray. Can any 1 explain to me why ? I am going to a club ,at the moment i only have none based stuff that i can test should i apply a bit more ? This just seems logical to me because with all the different smells and smoke and stuff you should need a little extra ’ kick ’ ---
**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2006, 3:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/edge-spray-and-npa-smell-too-strong-how-much-should-i-use/557/30 "2006-08-18T15:25:30Z")
> [@phero-za](#): > > I have read that its better to some times dab and other times use the spray. Can any 1 explain to me why ? I am going to a club ,at the moment i only have none based stuff that i can test should i apply a bit more ? This just seems logical to me because with all the different smells and smoke and stuff you should need a little extra ’ kick ’ What -none based stuff do you have, PZ? The Mone Masters can help you if they know your weapons of choice. ---
**Author:** ![phero-za](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phero-za/32/1539_2.png) [@phero-za](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/phero-za)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2006, 4:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/edge-spray-and-npa-smell-too-strong-how-much-should-i-use/557/31 "2006-08-18T16:02:56Z")
> [@M&M](#): > > What -none based stuff do you have, PZ? The Mone Masters can help you if they know your weapons of choice. well at the moment i just got some ‘the edge’ and NPA (got them before i found this place… Ok) ---
**Author:** ![Mtnjim](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mtnjim/32/2010_2.png) [@Mtnjim](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mtnjim)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2006, 6:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/edge-spray-and-npa-smell-too-strong-how-much-should-i-use/557/32 "2006-08-18T18:24:59Z")
Try starting with 2 dabs (dropper insert out) of NPA, or 4 dabs of TE. (They’re the same thing just at different concentrations). Watch for results, they may be very subtle. ---
**Author:** ![phero-za](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phero-za/32/1539_2.png) [@phero-za](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/phero-za)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2006, 6:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/edge-spray-and-npa-smell-too-strong-how-much-should-i-use/557/33 "2006-08-18T18:36:10Z")
> [@Mtnjim](#): > > Try starting with 2 dabs (dropper insert out) of NPA, or 4 dabs of TE. (They’re the same thing just at different concentrations). Watch for results, they may be very subtle. can i turn the bottle over on my wrist or finger and count that as a dab? ---
**Author:** ![Mtnjim](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mtnjim/32/2010_2.png) [@Mtnjim](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mtnjim)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2006, 7:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/edge-spray-and-npa-smell-too-strong-how-much-should-i-use/557/34 "2006-08-18T19:24:44Z")
> [@phero-za](#): > > can i turn the bottle over on my wrist or finger and count that as a dab? That’s a dab. ---
**Author:** ![phero-za](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phero-za/32/1539_2.png) [@phero-za](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/phero-za)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2006, 8:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/edge-spray-and-npa-smell-too-strong-how-much-should-i-use/557/35 "2006-08-18T20:00:38Z")
🆒 Thanx, i know i sound a bit paranoid but i wont get alot of chances to test and want to make the ones i get , count! ---
**Author:** ![MHarris](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mharris/32/2107_2.png) [@MHarris](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MHarris)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2006, 8:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/edge-spray-and-npa-smell-too-strong-how-much-should-i-use/557/36 "2006-08-18T20:05:56Z")
> [@](#): > > Mharris do you guys have any alpha -nol stronger than 50 mcg’s? If so I’m just trying to imagine what it’d be like on a massive MASSIVE overdose. Certaintly. Take a look at our store sometime. You can go as high as 5000mcg per spray, which is completely unnecessary. > **[Experimental Human Pheromones - Pheromone Labs](https://pheromonelabs.com/)** 50 is already quite massive, and would serve you well if you’re looking for “extreme” effects. “Massive, massive”, maybe try 100, 150 or 300. You should have a very good, technical reason for wanting to go higher than that. ---
**Author:** ![MHarris](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mharris/32/2107_2.png) [@MHarris](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MHarris)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2006, 8:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/edge-spray-and-npa-smell-too-strong-how-much-should-i-use/557/37 "2006-08-18T20:15:44Z")
> [@Mtnjim](#): > > Try starting with 2 dabs (dropper insert out) of NPA, or 4 dabs of TE. (They’re the same thing just at different concentrations). Watch for results, they may be very subtle. While we optimize for diffusion and quite a number of other factors, I would personally have to say those are two most obvious products from any brand. If you call the effects of those subtle, I wonder what you call the effects from our products! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Mtnjim](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mtnjim/32/2010_2.png) [@Mtnjim](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mtnjim)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2006, 8:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/edge-spray-and-npa-smell-too-strong-how-much-should-i-use/557/38 "2006-08-18T20:35:24Z")
> [@MHarris](#): > > If you call the effects of those subtle, I wonder what you call the effects from our products! 🙂 My comment was mostly for effect. A lot of nubes expect women to rip off their clothes and hump their legs when exposed to ~mones. 😮 Wanted him to notice subtle changes instead.😃 ---
**Author:** ![phero-za](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phero-za/32/1539_2.png) [@phero-za](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/phero-za)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2006, 9:45am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/edge-spray-and-npa-smell-too-strong-how-much-should-i-use/557/39 "2006-08-19T09:45:05Z")
First off, thanx for the help even tho i didnt buy my stuff here ,it just shows me how confident you are in your products and you can be sure that my next purchase will be from androtics. Secondly, my first time i had mones on went pretty good. Me ,my girlfriend ,two of my friends and their girlfriends went to a club I used 4 dabs of “the edge” .At first i didnt see anything different ,but after a while it got more obvious.I noticed that there weren’t alot of guys around and the girls that where close …got really close and i got some funny looks, it was as if the girls had to dance like 2 feet infront of me (i was standing next to the tables ,a about 10 feet from the actual dance floor) despite the fact that their boyfriends where there, and this happened a few times. this never happened to me before. i suspect that if i where single and a bit more experienced ,i would have seen a bit more reactions! Anyway, thats my encounter of the mone kind. 😃 😃 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Rbt](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/rbt/32/2066_2.png) [@Rbt](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rbt)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2006, 1:37am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/edge-spray-and-npa-smell-too-strong-how-much-should-i-use/557/40 "2006-08-20T01:37:53Z")
I have noticed it takes at least 10 to 15 minutes of “exposure” to [pheromone products](https://a314.com/shop/) before I start noticing any effects. Pheromones supposedly do have an “immediate” effect on the body, but it seems to take a few minutes for those effects to get translated into any sort of action/response, despite some the stories I see about “stop dead in their tracks as they walk past” reactions. I did get what I think was a DIHL using either NPA or AE (can’t recall which right now…) after about a 10 minute exposure. When I was using Pheromax, Chikara, etc, things seemed to get a bit more “obvious” after about 30 minutes of proximity. But like the man sez, effects can be subtle and hard to pick up on. I didn’t realize the DIHL until about 10 minutes after I had left the place I had been getting it from a take-out restaurant counter girl. Doh! [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/edge-spray-and-npa-smell-too-strong-how-much-should-i-use/557.md?page=1) [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/edge-spray-and-npa-smell-too-strong-how-much-should-i-use/557.md?page=3)