# Eliciting Approaches - Field Report

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/eliciting-approaches-field-report/17372>\
**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [August 12, 2008, 7:11am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/eliciting-approaches-field-report/17372 "2008-08-12T07:11:20Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 9\
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**Author:** ![FutureKill](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/futurekill/32/691_2.png) [@FutureKill](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/FutureKill)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2008, 7:11am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/eliciting-approaches-field-report/17372/1 "2008-08-12T07:11:20Z")

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You’ll have to forgive the somewhat streamlined format of this report. It is basically a combined revision of my Field Notes and a “Post-Event Field Report.” Since both of these were written for my own benefit (and not that of an audience) it may be a little hard to follow. Having said that, I’m sure it will be of _some_ value. Anyway, here goes…

**Approximately 1:30 to 2:00 PM**

- 2 drops A314
- 5 sprays IShine x4
- 2 sprays Spaceland
- 20mcg P93
- 30mcg P74
- Issey Miyaki as cover  
Went to the bank and stood in line for what felt like hours. A man got in line behind me, made eye contact and started to open his mouth. Just as he did, I said facetiously, “Aren’t we brilliant, everybody’s going back to work after lunch, it’ll take five minutes?” He laughed and asked what I do. Told him about my job and school, asked him about his vet shirt. We spoke for about five minutes about his job and where the office of employment is. I finished banking and left, bidding him goodbye.

**Between 3:15 and 3:30 PM**

- 1 spray Spaceland
- 1 spray IShine x4
- 15mcg P74  
Went to SBUX to meet my friend J. Met J in parking lot, shook hands and proceeded inside. HB8 barista named G says, “hey guys.” Now, she always says hi to me, but its always when I go to the counter to order–never right as I walk through the door. Male barista A whom I’ve known for awhile said “hi” immediately after G, once more when I didn’t respond at first and yet again after I was done giving order to G (eventhough I said hi back the second time). A made direct eye contact and asked if I wanted 2 doubles or 1 quad, explaining that it would be cheaper. I didn’t understand him at first and got him confused, ended up just saying, “I want four shots, I don’t care how many cups they’re in.” As he is filling the cup with hot H20 he asks how many pumps of syrup I wanted and made sure I wanted a ceramic demitoss (not paper cup). That may seem inconsequential, but I _ **always** _ get espresso with the exact same specifications and A knows this better than the other baristas. Furthermore, A is sort of a “cut-and-dry” type of person and doesn’t say/do much that isn’t necessary. When my drink of ready A put it at the bar and stood there until I came and got it, making eye contact and giving me a heart-felt-sounding thank you.

My friend J and I went outside and talked for several hours. At one point a guy that I’ve seen before (he’s another regular) but never talked to walked up to us. He spoke with an accent and smiled as he said, “So have you solved the world’s problems yet?” I gave a confused look in response and he added, “I was over there listening and I’ve heard you talk about everything from military to Obama.” I laughed and said, “Ahh, well then you’re luck. Most people don’t accumulate that much wisdom in an entire lifetime.” This guy laughed like he meant it, like he thought that was _ **really** _ funny. He asked me about my politics and literally stood there for over five minutes talking to me, hardly even looking at my friend J. Later on, as I was leaving, he made sure to stop me and shake my hand before I left.

**Approximately 6:30 PM**

- 1 drop A314
- 1 spray IShine x4
- 1 spray Spaceland
- 30mcg P74  
I decided to go to the mall to get a “pimp cane,” with a skull handle (long story). As I was walking through the anchor store I came within about 15 feet of a store clerk, to whom I paid _absolutely_ no attention, I was even wearing sunglasses. Despite my apparent indifference he began walking toward me and said, “hello sir, how are you?” I greeted him in return and continued on my merry way. Went to Spencer Gifts and looked around, but to no avail. Ended up talking to this girl R. The last time I was there and talked to her she was very resistant to my advances (which, in all honesty, were not overtly or intentionally sexual), even to the point of being a little bitchy. Today, when I ran into her she apolagized for her attitude the other day and began to explain that she was going through “some things.” We started talking about philosophy and she was _very_ obviously taking care not to offend me eventhough I kept insisting there was no need. We ended up talking for about 20 minutes as I shopped and she stocked the shelves. It was strange how she kept making sure that what she said was clear and that I knew exactly what she meant, not only that but she repeatedly apologized for her previous behavior, even after I emphatically said that, “I DO NOT get offended over religion.”

I will keep you posted with further testing of P74, but it seems like that had to do with having people approach me and seeking my approval. I have _never_ had so many strangers act so extroverted towards me within a few hours. That is, I doubt that Spaceland/Shine were solely responsible for these hits. Now, they probably contributed, in fact I’m sure they did, but I think P74 was the main factor here. I’m definitely going to test it further, I’m thinking of 3 possible ways I could test it:

1. Mega-dose P74, like 100mcg or more all @ once
2. Add other brighteners, like maybe EST. Any suggestions?  
\*]Drop the A314, perhaps substituting [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/)

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**Author:** ![idle](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/idle/32/344_2.png) [@idle](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/idle)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2008, 9:20am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/eliciting-approaches-field-report/17372/2 "2008-08-12T09:20:53Z")

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yep [P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/) its known for this effect.  
It goes even better at 100mcg 🙂

but i will left you to find out and report back.

reps

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**Author:** ![ntk23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/65b543/32.png) [@ntk23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ntk23)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2008, 9:24am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/eliciting-approaches-field-report/17372/3 "2008-08-12T09:24:43Z")

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Nice report FutureKill. You’re obviously more experienced in this than I am (I’m just a noob) with your use of putatives and stuff that’s all a bit esoteric to me right now, but it is an inspiring tale!

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**Author:** ![runnerxvr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/35a633/32.png) [@runnerxvr](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/runnerxvr)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2008, 9:42am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/eliciting-approaches-field-report/17372/4 "2008-08-12T09:42:41Z")

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Hello FutureKill!  
Thank you for your reports, that’s great! I also tested something like your frist mix, and it worked really well for me (I used [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) instead of Spaceland). Keep us updated!

See ya

Franz

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**Author:** ![FutureKill](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/futurekill/32/691_2.png) [@FutureKill](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/FutureKill)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2008, 11:52am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/eliciting-approaches-field-report/17372/5 "2008-08-12T11:52:17Z")

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Thank you all for your kind words, they are much appreciated!

idle: Not to sound redundant, but when you say that 100mcg of P74 is better do you mean that it has the _same kind_ of effects just more intense? Is there any risk of overdose? It sounds like you know a thing or two about P74, enlighten me?

runnerxvr: What do you mean you used [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) instead of Spaceland? Shine is primarily TAA whereas Spaceland is mostly Alpha Androstenol. Do you mean that your mix was similar to mine, just without the Spaceland? What sort of results did you get with it?

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**Author:** ![runnerxvr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/35a633/32.png) [@runnerxvr](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/runnerxvr)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2008, 12:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/eliciting-approaches-field-report/17372/6 "2008-08-12T12:10:12Z")

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Hi FutureKill,  
with this psot I’m going to answer to your question. My mix, the one that I say that was quite similar to yours, was like this:

1 drop of A314  
3 Sprays of Instant Shine - Regular Strenght  
30 mcg P93  
30 mcg P74  
2 sprays of [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) - Regular Strength  
Acqua di Giò as cover scent

People were mainly staring at me, and I also had some smiles from both man and women. I hadn’t many people starting conversation, but only a black man (I think he’s Cuban). Anyway, those DIHLs were impressive. I think that our mixes look quite similar, don’t they?

See ya

Franz

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**Author:** ![idle](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/idle/32/344_2.png) [@idle](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/idle)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2008, 12:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/eliciting-approaches-field-report/17372/7 "2008-08-12T12:19:39Z")

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> [@FutureKill](#):
>
> idle: Not to sound redundant, but when you say that 100mcg of P74 is better do you mean that it has the _same kind_ of effects just more intense? Is there any risk of overdose? It sounds like you know a thing or two about P74, enlighten me?

I never suffered from an [P74](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p74/) OD  
but i never got up from 150mcg

you can find ALLOT of info on P74 here

> [@P74, a compilation: enhanced attracting effects, a ‘cool person' vibe, and empathy](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-a-compilation-enhanced-attracting-effects-a-cool-person-vibe-and-empathy/5136):
>
> Some P74 ‘attractant’ effects on females that have been documented so far: [P74: who has tried the 5mg/spray dose? - #21 by SwingerMD](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74/197/21) SwingerMD (March 28, 2006): “Yes, p74 does seem to elicit a light “boyfriend” effect. I also have notice that both sexes really open up, very candid, and volunteer information on how they are feeling and what is on their mind. Sorta like what I hear about the effects of Instant Honesty (just got it but haven’t used it yet). The latter effects were from friends/a…

thanx to Visionary

Personally i find P74 to be very useful @100mcg

> [@P74, a compilation: enhanced attracting effects, a ‘cool person' vibe, and empathy](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-a-compilation-enhanced-attracting-effects-a-cool-person-vibe-and-empathy/5136/57):
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> P74, a compilation: enhanced attracting effects, a ‘cool person’ vibe, and empathy According to tacitus and now idle, higher doses of [P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/) (100 mcg+) may really take things to a new level… [https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-meo-est-results/16799/2](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-meo-est-results/16799/2) idle (August 2008): "With P74 people are friendly because they see you as a cool/nice person. My observation is that it works more on Males rather then females. With a dosage above 100mcg people are begging to be your friend. When i use more than 100…

If you are up for experiments try P74 with TAC.  
Its very a strong combination.

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**Author:** ![SoulCreator](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/soulcreator/32/236_2.png) [@SoulCreator](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SoulCreator)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2008, 12:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/eliciting-approaches-field-report/17372/8 "2008-08-12T12:55:50Z")

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Great report FutureKill, I’m really digging the streamlined format of your reports… I don’t have the attention span to read some of the longer reports people on here post unless their broken up and formatted nicely like yours was.

I’ve been meaning to put together a report on [P74](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p74/) for a while now… It seems to me to be a putative that has a real potential for being rather intense, I’ve noticed that people tend to open up and let their guards down alot when I’m wearing the stuff.

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**Author:** ![FutureKill](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/futurekill/32/691_2.png) [@FutureKill](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/FutureKill)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2008, 1:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/eliciting-approaches-field-report/17372/9 "2008-08-12T13:11:34Z")

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> [@runnerxvr](#):
>
> Hi FutureKill,  
> with this psot I’m going to answer to your question. My mix, the one that I say that was quite similar to yours, was like this:
> 
> 1 drop of A314  
> 3 Sprays of Instant Shine - Regular Strenght  
> 30 mcg P93  
> 30 mcg P74  
> 2 sprays of Instant Openness - Regular Strength  
> Acqua di Giò as cover scent
> 
> People were mainly staring at me, and I also had some smiles from both man and women. I hadn’t many people starting conversation, but only a black man (I think he’s Cuban). Anyway, those DIHLs were impressive. I think that our mixes look quite similar, don’t they?
> 
> See ya
> 
> Franz

runnerxvr or Franz(?): Yes I agree! Our two mixes _are_ quite similar, in fact they are almost the same formula. Mine is simply, “heavy-duty,” as it were, in that it has more actual micrograms of pheros.

idle: Thank you for the links and for recommending TAC. I don’t mean to sound like a retarded monkey in need of constant clarification 😛 so just humor me. When you say, “_I never suffered from an [P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/) OD but i never got up from 150mcg,_” I get that you never had an OD, but do you also mean that you never used a dose larger than 150mcg? Sorry if I am missing the obvious.

SoulCreator: Thank you very much! I am glad you prefer my reports this way, its a hell-of-a-lot easier than writing a play by play narrative! You should definitely put together a report on P74. What sort of results did you have, were they similar to mine?

In addition to idle’s recommendation of TAC, does anybody else know of anything that will make others more outgoing? I was thinking perhaps TAL. What about TAH, I’ve got that lying around already 🙂.

EDIT: idle, regarding your suggestion of TAC–what kind of dosages are we talking about, even if just a ballpark range?
