# Envy: the most potent and effective mix I've ever found, results blew me away **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [July 23, 2009, 2:12am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/envy-the-most-potent-and-effective-mix-ive-ever-found-results-blew-me-away/30924 "2009-07-23T02:12:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![sleekll](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sleekll/32/946_2.png) [@sleekll](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sleekll)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2009, 2:12am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/envy-the-most-potent-and-effective-mix-ive-ever-found-results-blew-me-away/30924/1 "2009-07-23T02:12:17Z")
\*EDITED—See later threads for mix revision. I am so blown away by all the results I’ve gotten, I’m not sure I could ask for any more potent or effective mix, this is what I always dreamed pheros would do for me. Might not work for everyone, but it fits me like a glove. I never expected to ever find a mix with this level of success, and this is kind of like the summit for me, it would be really hard to beat these results. I’ve been going in and out of these forums with good to so-so to bad results since my join date, and I’ve never had my socks knocked off quite like this. The only thing that was ever close was the previous mix with sexiness I posted way back, but it doesn’t even hold a candle to this anymore. I started out testing slow and was cautious because at first I thought this mix was too good to be true, and placebo/luck may have been fooling me. But with the consistency of this results, I feel confident that this is like none other. _ **Envy** _: 4x Instant Jerk 4x maximum 6x [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) (I usually use 4.) 2x Instant Sexiness A w/copulins (Recent bottles do not contain them) 2x of any of the MX 207-212 Series. (If using unscented, use a cover scent. I prefer Ralph Lauren Purple Label or on the cheaper end American Crew Sport) Optional 1x maximum 2x Instant Honesty My usual application points (although I don’t think these are terribly important and I apply based on climate, clothes and circulation, nothing else) are: 1x IJ inside wrist, 1x IJ elbow crease, 1x Chest or base of neck, 1x Side of Neck 2x IO Base of neck, 2x IO wrists, if using additional 2x IO 1x ISexi to forearms, 1x Isexi to other side of neck 1x MX 207-212 to each side of neck. Sometimes I apply to forearm. 1-2x Honesty on back of wrists. I never apply near hands as I often wash them. Rub wrists/forearms/inside elbows together for any remaining wetness. Here are some over-all consistent effects I’ve noticed: -Every girl makes an effort to talk to talk to me or become engaged in conversation and I am almost always instantly accepted/ice broken. Most effective when personally starting conversation, even if its small talk, and then letting the rest carry, otherwise girls will talk amongst themselves more than necessary. Although girls will come talk to me, the girls love it when I talk to them on this mix, and would use it accordingly. -Guys stay quiet and stay out of the way but are not hostile, generally just cooperative and if anything look up to me. -A lot of girls get very giggly and highly energetic, even if initially tired and lethargic. It is an awesome mood-turner. -Creates a very positive and fun environment, with peoples attention mostly focused on me. -I become “the” guy to talk about, I become the ladies favorite subject. -Bonding between cliques and groups increases, and everyone starts acting like they are a tight group of friends -Lots of DIHL reactions from girls within close range and exposure past 5 minutes, even girls I thought were previously out of my league, or would have placed themselves out of my league. -With any girl I’ve gotten to a kissing stage to, they’ve turned nymphomanic on me as if they were just dying for me to finally open that door. I tease a lot and make them work for any sort of PDA. May not be necessary with this mix. -No negative results from ladies, and mostly all neutral/good results from men. I have yet to experience any negatives. No one brushing me off, giving me cold shoulders, no hostility, nothing. Self Results: -Inhibitions go way down -Heart rate smooths out. What I mean is I don’t get very nervous, and my game increases 200%. The way I roll on this mix is almost a mirror image of some of the best “game” moments of my life. -Cockyness goes up, but in a fairly innocent way. Hard to explain, but I’m not pissing people off at all. -Feel like the man, and feel and act like myself, not pretending to be Alpha or Feminine or anything in between, just pure raw me free of labels and everyone loves it. -Happiness levels go up Now these are consistent effects. In the past with my mixes I get maybe 2-3 consistent effects followed by equal self effects. With just one product, 1-2 effects. I get some intermittent effects that I have not posted because I do not fully understand them or they just aren’t consistent enough. Obviously a lot of these effects are due to synergy with my personality and jokingly cocky/slightly sarcastic fun-loving attitude. I do not know how effects would be amplified with other personalities although I would love for other people to test this in this exact formulation. It brings out the best in me socially. The Honesty part is not necessary, but I’ve found can be added/subtracted based on what I am wanting to accomplish, and a little more openness can be used if desired. The honesty puts a little bit of an edge and straight-forwardness that sometimes (sometimes not) embaresses those around me and can cause me to say a little too much a little too fast so it has its pro’s and con’s. I would not change this mix although I am open to ideas. Any attempts to add things to this mix like Shine/A314/Other MX’s/IFM/etc seem to seriously negate or flat line this mix. Although, it feels like I have 6x shine on while on this combo, and it mimics a lot of its effects, so I would not worry about missing out. It really doesn’t need much more. The Sexiness I use has cops and I do not know if there is any alternative to this. Any of the MX 207-212 (AFAIK this series is all the same with scent variants) Seem to be very vital towards making this mix function, although I don’t fully understand why yet. Highlights include crazy school class sessions to where if we weren’t in class I swear a couple girls would have jumped me and torn my clothes off (hanging out with some tonight btw 😉 as well as dance clubs and social gatherings where everything just works. I don’t really have the patience/time to go into details about behaviors of individual girls but I have all the notes them if anyone wants to know about a specific or two. Unfortunately I have a busy life outside this forum. Peace and GL 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2009, 1:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/envy-the-most-potent-and-effective-mix-ive-ever-found-results-blew-me-away/30924/2 "2009-08-14T01:02:58Z")
How did this go unnoticed by anyone? Bumping ---
**Author:** ![justaguy2116](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ec9cab/32.png) [@justaguy2116](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/justaguy2116)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2009, 7:58am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/envy-the-most-potent-and-effective-mix-ive-ever-found-results-blew-me-away/30924/3 "2009-08-14T07:58:11Z")
Interesting interesting. Is the [Instant Sexiness](https://phera.com/product/instant-sexiness/) in there to mellow out the men, or does it also serve some sort of pre-selection effect (i.e., “this guy must’ve just had some women all over him”)? ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2009, 5:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/envy-the-most-potent-and-effective-mix-ive-ever-found-results-blew-me-away/30924/4 "2009-08-14T17:14:34Z")
I’m going to be trying this out tonight if I have the MX207 series, which I am unsure about. If not I’ll try some MX301 which has been a long time since I’ve worn ---
**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2009, 6:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/envy-the-most-potent-and-effective-mix-ive-ever-found-results-blew-me-away/30924/5 "2009-08-14T18:41:52Z")
I like MX301, for some reason it gives me more effect than 302. Just seems more open and friendly, while with MX302 I noticed just DITH stares. Need more time with Mr. MX302! > [@Steve](#): > > I’m going to be trying this out tonight if I have the MX207 series, which I am unsure about. > > If not I’ll try some MX301 which has been a long time since I’ve worn ---
**Author:** ![bedojo](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bedojo/32/1027_2.png) [@bedojo](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bedojo)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2009, 10:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/envy-the-most-potent-and-effective-mix-ive-ever-found-results-blew-me-away/30924/6 "2009-08-14T22:32:21Z")
im going post this in my collection of recipes/mixes, this looks great going have to try it someitme ---
**Author:** ![sleekll](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sleekll/32/946_2.png) [@sleekll](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sleekll)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2009, 11:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/envy-the-most-potent-and-effective-mix-ive-ever-found-results-blew-me-away/30924/7 "2009-08-14T23:14:48Z")
> [@justaguy2116](#): > > Interesting interesting. Is the Instant Sexiness in there to mellow out the men, or does it also serve some sort of pre-selection effect (i.e., “this guy must’ve just had some women all over him”)? I would say it helps both those functions and one more. I don’t know if it mellows men out specifically as the mix as a whole does, but it is likely a piece of the puzzle. I do get a lot of pre-selection effect which seems to work in synergy with IJ. I also get a lot of compliments about my looks on this so I think its got some going on as well there. Some girls are a little squeemish to get the compliments out of whereas some are more open, hence another option opportunity for the IH. I don’t know enough about the compounds to know exactly what is going on but I believe this is what’s happening. ---
**Author:** ![tezza23](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tezza23/32/1375_2.png) [@tezza23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tezza23)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2009, 12:52am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/envy-the-most-potent-and-effective-mix-ive-ever-found-results-blew-me-away/30924/8 "2009-08-15T00:52:14Z")
[Instant Sexiness](https://phera.com/product/instant-sexiness/) A no longer contains copulins, as you mention. Are these important to the mix or can you get away without them? ---
**Author:** ![sleekll](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sleekll/32/946_2.png) [@sleekll](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sleekll)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2009, 1:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/envy-the-most-potent-and-effective-mix-ive-ever-found-results-blew-me-away/30924/9 "2009-08-15T01:07:21Z")
> [@tezza23](#): > > Instant Sexiness A no longer contains copulins, as you mention. Are these important to the mix or can you get away without them? I don’t know, the cops from the IJ might be enough but I haven’t tried the mix without Isexi’s copulins as I don’t own a sexiness without it. Apparently its not even clear if IJ has copulins anymore. ---
**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2009, 2:05am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/envy-the-most-potent-and-effective-mix-ive-ever-found-results-blew-me-away/30924/10 "2009-08-15T02:05:54Z")
True that! > [@sleekll](#): > > I don’t know, the cops from the IJ might be enough but I haven’t tried the mix without Isexi’s copulins as I don’t own a sexiness without it. Apparently its not even clear if IJ has copulins anymore. ---
**Author:** ![justaguy2116](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ec9cab/32.png) [@justaguy2116](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/justaguy2116)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2009, 3:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/envy-the-most-potent-and-effective-mix-ive-ever-found-results-blew-me-away/30924/11 "2009-08-15T03:09:49Z")
Heh, I imagine this mix must be a double-whammy when in the presence of females of the bisexual variety. Or, if the oft-repeated, not-so-often-verified assertion that all females are bisexual to some degree is true, then it’s just a double-whammy all around. ---
**Author:** ![sleekll](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sleekll/32/946_2.png) [@sleekll](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sleekll)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2009, 4:21am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/envy-the-most-potent-and-effective-mix-ive-ever-found-results-blew-me-away/30924/12 "2009-08-15T04:21:41Z")
> [@justaguy2116](#): > > Heh, I imagine this mix must be a double-whammy when in the presence of females of the bisexual variety. Or, if the oft-repeated, not-so-often-verified assertion that all females are bisexual to some degree is true, then it’s just a double-whammy all around. I have actually found the latter to be very true. Also I think any of them that are in the closest respond extra hard because it triggers that bi in them but they are ok with it since you are a guy…haha if that makes any sense. ---
**Author:** ![justaguy2116](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ec9cab/32.png) [@justaguy2116](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/justaguy2116)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2009, 5:36am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/envy-the-most-potent-and-effective-mix-ive-ever-found-results-blew-me-away/30924/13 "2009-08-15T05:36:06Z")
> [@sleekll](#): > > I have actually found the latter to be very true. Also I think any of them that are in the closest respond extra hard because it triggers that bi in them but they are ok with it since you are a guy…haha if that makes any sense. Haha totally. They’re smelling man AND woman, but seeing man, so it doesn’t blow their cover. ---
**Author:** ![sleekll](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sleekll/32/946_2.png) [@sleekll](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sleekll)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2011, 5:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/envy-the-most-potent-and-effective-mix-ive-ever-found-results-blew-me-away/30924/14 "2011-01-14T17:05:43Z")
Hi again everyone…reporting in after a year or so of use of this mix. I don’t come on here much, but I have some questions as well as some comments. First off, I’ve found that this mix works just as well without [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/). In fact, now that I am much more talkative than I used to be, I prefer it without. Also, the MX addition was nice but MX’s don’t last forever and really wasn’t necessary. Often I also prefer no honesty as subtlety can be an advantage (for myself and those I’m socializing with). However, I’ve found that adding another 2x IsexiA completes everything very well. Here is the final mix: Instant Jerk x4 Instant Sexiness A x2-x4 Optional Honesty (1 , 2 , max 4) Optional dab of A314 on top lip/under nose (for self effect) HOWEVER. I have been using this mix (only at parties & events) for a LONG time and my original supply of IJ and ISexi A are running low---- there was speculation IJ at the time had copulins and I KNOW my stock of Isexi A had cops. I’ve done a few searches in the women’s forums but haven’t been able to find anything definitive on how much say EoW would replace what used to be in Isexi (and potentially IJ at the time). Any help on the matter would be greatly appreciated. As far as party/social mixes go, I have never found anything as good as this mix. It’s like my bread and butter now. Still after all this time blows my mind over and over again. I’ve been with multiple women at the same time several times, and have had countless of googly-eyed “why don’t you have a girlfriend?” type hits. This mix also works especially well with alcohol and a couple department store cologne sprays if it’s not overpowering. Also, when I have a chance I’m going to try this formulation with the new cop-less/newest versions of IJ and Isexi A and will report back. ---
**Author:** ![Noble](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/noble/32/1768_2.png) [@Noble](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Noble)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2011, 5:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/envy-the-most-potent-and-effective-mix-ive-ever-found-results-blew-me-away/30924/15 "2011-01-14T17:37:15Z")
Please do. ---
**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2011, 12:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/envy-the-most-potent-and-effective-mix-ive-ever-found-results-blew-me-away/30924/16 "2011-01-15T12:25:56Z")
As I told you in the car, I recommend 2-4 sprays of EOW @ 180:1 dilution (2 drops in 1 ounce/30mL PA), but it would be interesting to know if anyone can offer you information on a more accurate equivalent of the amount of cops you need to replicate from your mix. Steve? Jasmin? Anyone got any info that might help? I bet Steve can offer some insight from personal experience experimenting with cops, even if he’s not allowed to or otherwise cannot help with a more direct equivalency. ---
**Author:** ![sleekll](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sleekll/32/946_2.png) [@sleekll](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sleekll)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2011, 5:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/envy-the-most-potent-and-effective-mix-ive-ever-found-results-blew-me-away/30924/17 "2011-01-22T17:11:48Z")
Well, I was able to test it once without cops (haven’t had a good environment since). And while I got laid of course I wasn’t around enough women to really see its effects. There’s a party tonight, so I’m going to try it cop-less there and that should give me a good bearing. ---
**Author:** ![sleekll](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sleekll/32/946_2.png) [@sleekll](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sleekll)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2011, 4:56am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/envy-the-most-potent-and-effective-mix-ive-ever-found-results-blew-me-away/30924/18 "2011-02-08T04:56:53Z")
> [@sleekll](#): > > Well, I was able to test it once without cops (haven’t had a good environment since). And while I got laid of course I wasn’t around enough women to really see its effects. There’s a party tonight, so I’m going to try it cop-less there and that should give me a good bearing. The party got cancelled, and I’ve been travelling since. Lots of work. Anyway, got to try it couple nights ago copless and so far it’s worked just as well (cross fingers). I had two girls trying to rip my clothes off while ignoring the host that one of them was dating. They were attractive but didn’t want to sleep with either, not interested. Felt bad for the guy hosting too who was arguably better looking than me just didn’t have as much game. Or pheros. Will keep you guys updated.