# EOW DIlution question **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [September 24, 2010, 6:48am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/eow-dilution-question/42019 "2010-09-24T06:48:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 18
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2010, 6:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/eow-dilution-question/42019/18 "2010-09-25T18:01:57Z")
Jay I had to go to work this morning so I was just giving a estimates off the top of my head. I am a science buff not a mathematician. 😃 I will figure it out for those who want to know though. Now when Steve says 8 droppers full he is referring to what I told him to add to a 30 ml bottle when trying to replicate the copulins in IJ. I have both IJ with copulins and without and I told him what I added to mine to recreate the IJ formula. However when thegentleman asked he was referring to adding it to a 5 ml bottle not a 30 ml bottle. I am testing right now how many drops are in my EOW droppers. ewww ewwwww ewwwwww gag gag Ok I am done (snort) It comes out to 8 drops. Which surprised me because I expected more. There is still some left in the dropper but it wont come out by squeezing the bulb on the dropper top so I am only counting what comes out when you squeeze a full dropper of eow. I tested all 6 of my bottles and they all came out the same with only slight variations of 1 drop or less. My bottles are older and I was telling Steve the calculation I used from those bottles. Test your own bottles cause your droppers may be different they changed the bottles due to melting recently. Then do the math. 8x8=64/6= 10.6 drops to a 5ml bottle. To create something close to IJ. > [@](#): > > I really fail to understand why there is such a discrepancy between all the suggestions. The difference between 3 drops and 8 droppers full in a 30ml is so huge… > > The only way this can be tested is starting with 3 drops in the 30ml and adding a drop in the bottle everytime one uses it. I shall call it ‘sweet drop testing’. Now Catlord uses less because he is not going for the IJ vibe. This is why you see variations. He is going for a more subtle higher value in demand vibe not the player vibe. So he uses a lot less and the volume of what he has used has gone down over the years for what works for his situation. Keep in mind copulins are no different then any other pheromone in that you have to work to find the dosage that works for you. Most of you were not here when Dirty and the original IJ were in the line up. Let me tell you I still cant get close to my bottle of Dirty LOL I keep my IJ and dirty locked in a air tight container with the rest of my copulin products. Except my industrial strength copulins which are highly concentrated and you need to wear gloves and a mask to even work with them. Those are in a airtight container in my shed. The down side of that is when ever my husband go’s out to the shed he yells it smells like crotch in here and comes back sweaty and horny LOL The plus side of that is it keeps the wild animals from trying to get in there LOL 😃 The reason I am suggesting 3 to 4 drops per 5 ml for newbies is because you can always work up by adding more if you need it but once its in there you its harder to work down. > [@](#): > > Tisha knows damn well what she’s talking about and I believe (I’m not speaking for her) that her conversations with Steve led her to recommend something along the lines for that. Thank you for the vote of confidence, This is true. What I would suggest to Steve who is a highly experienced knowledgeable user is different then what I would suggest to a person who is just starting out with copulins. He knows how to use them and how to cover them. He also knows how to work the vibe to his advantage Copulins are not easy to use [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) like the other molecules you use here. They stink and take a lot of patience and practice to get right. The experienced ladies can use up to 10 or more drops straight to the skin. We can and do cover without much trouble. Men have a harder time with the smell especially from the bottle or on themselves. Its like having a foreign substance on you. As far as men in a relationship or who are married. I would not suggest copulins at all. Woman can pick up on them. We instinctively know the smell of our own even though its not a conscious thought. Using synthetic copulins has sent more then a few men I know to the couch for the night. > [@](#): > > It’s like dark matter, what does it do, why does it do that and how many is there? I know you were not questioning my experience and I did give a quick reply this morning so the confusion is my fault. Its really not all that mysterious. What do they do ? Well, first you should know what they are. Synthetic copulins are made from acids and fatty lipids the same as copulins we secrete naturally. Men do not secrete them. They are the vaginal secretions of fertile females during ovulation. The ones you buy are more concentrated then natural ones we secrete so they tend to stink. Now we can cover what they do, Copulins worn by a women will spike a mans testosterone level by 150% when exposed to them. Its a chemical reaction caused by both the smell and the visual of a female. (remember guys are more visual). Some men report arousal during sleep when exposed to them but I suspect they are dreaming of a women so thats the visual that spurs it on. Anywhoo when men smell this they instinctively look for the female sending out the fertile signal much like when animals go into heat. It causes them to become sexually aroused on a instinctual and biological level. It signals its time to procreate. Why do they do that, Well we are mammals and we do communicate in many different ways including phromonally and instinctively although because we are more evolved we rely more on our logical left sided brain and are conscious of the verbal communication more. But its like riding a bike, you may just drive everywhere now and never use your bike but you never forget how to ride it. How many are there ? Not sure what you mean by this. > [@](#): > > I read in one thread where people were letting their mix sit in a cool dark place stirring it occasional for a week. Is this actually necessary? Or is the mix ready to go? I would, EOW is oil based and made from acids and lipids so you will probably always need to shake the bottle a little before each use. Waiting lets it bind and set more. Sort of like a curing process. Tisha --- _[View the full topic](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/eow-dilution-question/42019)._