# EPOXYESTRATRIENOL - has anyone tried this?

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**Category:** Lounge\
**Created:** [July 12, 2007, 4:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/epoxyestratrienol-has-anyone-tried-this/4610 "2007-07-12T16:13:53Z")\
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**Author:** ![nbully79](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c68b51/32.png) [@nbully79](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/nbully79)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2007, 4:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/epoxyestratrienol-has-anyone-tried-this/4610/1 "2007-07-12T16:13:53Z")

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Website selling it says: this compound seems the most powerful, and visibly active vomeropherin we have ever devised.

The radical 16,17-epoxy group makes this compound truly novel: the (initially) assumed activity of this compound as a [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/) was derived from structure activity relationship logic, as per its structural similarity to a known, powerful vomeropherin; of which is the specific object of a patent for it (defined as an anxiety-reducing-pheromone of which is versed in a pharmaceutical sense) of which is chemically different from the pheromone described herewithin as to render our innovation public domain.

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**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2007, 8:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/epoxyestratrienol-has-anyone-tried-this/4610/2 "2007-07-13T20:04:51Z")

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Hey I was looking at that today to and wondering about it. They say its new. I was wondering if Androtics already has it.

Have you ever purchased anything from them before ?

Tisha

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**Author:** ![nbully79](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c68b51/32.png) [@nbully79](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/nbully79)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2007, 9:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/epoxyestratrienol-has-anyone-tried-this/4610/3 "2007-07-13T21:02:43Z")

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No, nothing yet. I am looking at some of their new upcoming products and the description looks exciting.

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**Author:** ![Mtnjim](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mtnjim/32/2010_2.png) [@Mtnjim](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mtnjim)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2007, 9:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/epoxyestratrienol-has-anyone-tried-this/4610/4 "2007-07-13T21:47:51Z")

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> [@nbully79](#):
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> …I am looking at some of their new upcoming products and the description looks exciting.

I may be dense, but I’d be interested in where this is posted.

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**Author:** ![bronzie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e274bd/32.png) [@bronzie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bronzie)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2007, 11:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/epoxyestratrienol-has-anyone-tried-this/4610/5 "2007-07-13T23:17:52Z")

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jim, are you bieng sarcastic, as in thier product description are not interesting or that you havnt seen thier new product listing?

i have visted that site, and wonder what da hell are they trying to market?? or even invent, for instance, one of thier “new” products is specifically formulated for TRANSSEXUALS!!! another one will mimmic A314 that is sold here

thier prices are very very cheap and blow other pheromone sites out of the water, in terms of value for money, but do we really know what we are getting??

the manufacturer of that elusive pheromone site, goes by the name HEC from the LS forum and developed Aquagen and the chemset sold on LS

also interesting is that he uses Androtics pheromone photos of thier bottles for some of his upcomming pheromone products

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**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2007, 9:45am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/epoxyestratrienol-has-anyone-tried-this/4610/6 "2007-07-14T09:45:59Z")

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Jim we cant post a link here because they are distributers of raw [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/) and other chemicals and thats against the rules on this forum. Its one of the very few rule Jas has on this forum.

They just came out with a line of mixed products so they are headed in that direction. Seems like they are in the process of contructing that part of the site. I suppose when they are done we can talk about the mixes they have made but its kinda a grey area in the forum so I dont want to step on any feet.

I am not interested in any of the raw stuff because I dont know how to mix raw pheromones and if I ever attempt it it will only be with products I trust like Androtics or LS but the Epoxyestratrienol sounds interesting and I am wondering if maybe Androtics has been testing it or something like it in some of there new Puritive mixes. But until Androtics or LS confirms that it is a actual pheromone I wouldnt just jump right in and try it. For all we know some guy could have peed in a bottle LOL.

Bronzie is right they also have a link on there to the Phero library over at LS and I just noticed the chemset and Aquagen listed. It is a strange site.

Tisha

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**Author:** ![nbully79](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c68b51/32.png) [@nbully79](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/nbully79)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2007, 2:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/epoxyestratrienol-has-anyone-tried-this/4610/7 "2007-07-14T14:28:32Z")

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> [@Mtnjim](#):
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> I may be dense, but I’d be interested in where this is posted.

Mtnjim, You can see my blog for a little more info.  
And Tish thanks for the rep!

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**Author:** ![nbully79](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c68b51/32.png) [@nbully79](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/nbully79)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2007, 2:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/epoxyestratrienol-has-anyone-tried-this/4610/8 "2007-07-14T14:36:47Z")

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It is a strange site indeed. I have some information about the guy who runs the company via a PM from Michael. I won’t post the details here but will happily PM it to anyone who is interested.

One tid-bit of info (mentioned earlier by Jasmin) is that this company (verbatim from MHarris’s PM) “sold equilin, a horse hormone that shows mutagenic (cancerous) activity from humans, for the longest time as [estratetraenol](https://phera.com/), as well as fake androstenol”  
So, I don’t think I can really trust them but I am hoping they would have cleaned up their act.

> [@tisha23](#):
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> Jim we cant post a link here because they are distributers of raw pheromones and other chemicals and thats against the rules on this forum. Its one of the very few rule Jas has on this forum.
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> They just came out with a line of mixed products so they are headed in that direction. Seems like they are in the process of contructing that part of the site. I suppose when they are done we can talk about the mixes they have made but its kinda a grey area in the forum so I dont want to step on any feet.
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> I am not interested in any of the raw stuff because I dont know how to mix raw pheromones and if I ever attempt it it will only be with products I trust like Androtics or LS but the Epoxyestratrienol sounds interesting and I am wondering if maybe Androtics has been testing it or something like it in some of there new Puritive mixes. But until Androtics or LS confirms that it is a actual pheromone I wouldnt just jump right in and try it. For all we know some guy could have peed in a bottle LOL.
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> Bronzie is right they also have a link on there to the Phero library over at LS and I just noticed the chemset and Aquagen listed. It is a strange site. I just dont have enough pheromone experience or no how to invest any time or money at that site.
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> Tisha

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**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2007, 3:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/epoxyestratrienol-has-anyone-tried-this/4610/9 "2007-07-14T15:28:22Z")

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I am interested in what MHarris said PM it to me.

I would like to think they would have cleaned up there act but I kinda doupt it.

Thanks

Tisha

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**Author:** ![Mtnjim](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mtnjim/32/2010_2.png) [@Mtnjim](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mtnjim)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2007, 5:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/epoxyestratrienol-has-anyone-tried-this/4610/10 "2007-07-16T17:32:22Z")

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> [@nbully79](#):
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> Mtnjim, You can see my blog for a little more info.  
> And Tish thanks for the rep!

Thanks for the tip, but after some of the other postings, I don’t think I’m interested. If HEC is involved, well, he seemed like a bit of a whack job…😮

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**Author:** ![Holmes](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/holmes/32/2128_2.png) [@Holmes](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Holmes)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2007, 6:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/epoxyestratrienol-has-anyone-tried-this/4610/11 "2007-07-16T18:10:59Z")

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> [@Mtnjim](#):
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> Thanks for the tip, but after some of the other postings, I don’t think I’m interested. If HEC is involved, well, he seemed like a bit of a whack job…😮

😃

I forgot about 'ol Archetypal. What a card…

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**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2007, 10:01am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/epoxyestratrienol-has-anyone-tried-this/4610/12 "2007-07-17T10:01:35Z")

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I found the site and it says  
" **However, we urge anyone who purchases this concentrate in the interests of pheromone science, to not apply or allow contact with skin".**

I thought to point this out for safety/health reasons if anyone from buys this.

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**Author:** ![Rbt](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/rbt/32/2066_2.png) [@Rbt](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rbt)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2007, 6:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/epoxyestratrienol-has-anyone-tried-this/4610/13 "2007-08-05T18:24:17Z")

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I’m not sure I want to experiment with something with “Epoxy” in the name…

Conjures up all sorts of scenarios. Like a solidly plugged nose. Or body parts stuck to other body parts that shouldn’t be…
