# "Escape the Friend Zone" Mix ?

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/escape-the-friend-zone-mix/54353>\
**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [January 27, 2012, 2:48am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/escape-the-friend-zone-mix/54353 "2012-01-27T02:48:03Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![lamentofking](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8491ac/32.png) [@lamentofking](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/lamentofking)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2012, 2:48am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/escape-the-friend-zone-mix/54353/1 "2012-01-27T02:48:03Z")

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I was wondering if there was a mix that anyone knew of to aid in escaping the friend zone ? For me personally I’m a 20 yr old african american male . The target is 20 also african american and female . We’re both in college .

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**Author:** ![okyoureabeast](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/okyoureabeast/32/1395_2.png) [@okyoureabeast](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/okyoureabeast)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2012, 3:55am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/escape-the-friend-zone-mix/54353/2 "2012-01-27T03:55:02Z")

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Forget it bud, just go no contact and play the, “barney stinson” life.

I’ve given up on a girl I was with and spent an entire week at the gym. I feel great and frankly don’t need them.

That helps the most. No amount of mones will help AFCness. Just work on yourself and find some level ground to build up from.

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**Author:** ![andromun](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/andromun/32/365_2.png) [@andromun](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/andromun)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2012, 5:05am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/escape-the-friend-zone-mix/54353/3 "2012-01-27T05:05:05Z")

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I have to agree with _ **okyoureabeast** _ there are no mones that will change what she thinks of you. Maybe she already has you on the “friends” list.

Long story short you’ll need to not hang out with her for a while and focus on your own life. She needs time away from you, so ignore her requests to, chit chat, have coffee, or listen to her problems. Stop being her friend.

Let her know you’re busy and you got better things to do. After a brief hiatus then come back and test the waters.

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**Author:** ![Deja\_Vu](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/deja_vu/32/256_2.png) [@Deja\_Vu](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Deja_Vu)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2012, 4:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/escape-the-friend-zone-mix/54353/4 "2012-01-27T16:50:37Z")

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Try a little copulins. 🙂

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**Author:** ![lamentofking](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8491ac/32.png) [@lamentofking](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/lamentofking)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2012, 6:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/escape-the-friend-zone-mix/54353/5 "2012-01-27T18:55:11Z")

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Ok got it . Thanks guys . btw, I don’t drink coffee and neither does she . lol . But I get the point .

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**Author:** ![TwistedOstrich](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/twistedostrich/32/627_2.png) [@TwistedOstrich](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TwistedOstrich)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2012, 12:23am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/escape-the-friend-zone-mix/54353/6 "2012-01-28T00:23:42Z")

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Doesn’t hurt to have more friends 😛 Keep her around while you work on yourself and start seeing other women but don’t do it out of spite. If it is a genuine friendship maybe thats what its best being? But your positive energy and lack of pursuing her may help her see you in a different light.

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**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2012, 2:53am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/escape-the-friend-zone-mix/54353/7 "2012-01-28T02:53:29Z")

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Sometime, you have to give time time.

I have a friend that I wanted to smear sweet and sour sauce all over, and slooooowly lick it all off. But after a loooong while, she ended up in my FRIEND ZONE. She’s been there for about 5-6 years … until recently. I wear all kinds of combo’s around her, but I’ve never seen any reactions that I would have given credit to the moans.

A week ago, I went to spend the night. The next morning, she got the urge to model a bunch of clothing she had purchased to sell. Butt as naked from dress to dress to dress! I think I’ve been set up, 'cause I’m now longing to feast, said something … and she said she was wanting to sample my **M to the M’s INDOCTRINATION TO HIS PLANET** treatment. 😮

A week earlier, she told me how she loves to surve orally, and I told her that my introduction to ALL new lovers is they’d have to survive **1000 licks** for me to pleasure them totally. To me, we were just friends talking and sharing, but I think that’s what caused it, the thought of being licked 1000 times; and the mones that I’ve been using throughout the years, without a doubt, has helped, cause from time to time … while I drove, she’d run her nails down my forearms … tickling me, sending wonderful sensations down to my thruster. 🙄 And this is before I mentioned my mandatory INDOCTRINATION.

So, my suggestion is to follow the suggestions above, and if your mind is LOCKED on … get a TO-GO bottle of AMMO, and give it a test run around her until it runs out; and if you can swing it … a TO-GO bottle of TUTH, too. It’s about testing, so test and get your own answers.

Geez! Did I just type all that??? 😮 What…ever! 😉

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**Author:** ![TwistedOstrich](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/twistedostrich/32/627_2.png) [@TwistedOstrich](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TwistedOstrich)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2012, 3:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/escape-the-friend-zone-mix/54353/8 "2012-01-28T03:07:16Z")

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> [@M\_M](#):
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> So, my suggestion is to follow the suggestions above, and if your mind is LOCKED on … get a TO-GO bottle of AMMO, and give it a test run around her until it runs out; and if you can swing it … a TO-GO bottle of TUTH, too. It’s about testing, so test and get your own answers.
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> Geez! Did I just type all that??? 😮 What…ever! 😉

Very true! The key thing though is you didn’t obsess over her 😃

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**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2012, 3:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/escape-the-friend-zone-mix/54353/9 "2012-01-28T03:19:43Z")

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> [@TwistedOstrich](#):
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> Very true! The key thing though is you didn’t obsess over her 😃

Correct, but at his age … he’s probably LOCKED ON. Tis what the young ones and the older ones that never learned, do. 😉

Still … her nakedness haunts me, now. I got to watch and admire for bit over an hour. 🙄 I did NOT know she’d look that good naked.

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**Author:** ![lamentofking](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8491ac/32.png) [@lamentofking](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/lamentofking)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2012, 6:17am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/escape-the-friend-zone-mix/54353/10 "2012-01-28T06:17:29Z")

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> [@M\_M](#):
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> Correct, but at his age … he’s probably LOCKED ON. Tis what the young ones and the older ones that never learned, do. 😉
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> Still … her nakedness haunts me, now. I got to watch and admire for bit over an hour. 🙄 I did NOT know she’d look that good naked.

Yeah I haven’t text’ed her(with her responding) since thursday . I saw her earlier this night at this social event my school was having . Just said hi . Didn’t hold a convo . Wondering if she’s wondering whats up cause before I was texting her everyday for about a week . I only found out I got friend zone’d because one of her friends asked her if she likes me and she said no but i’m cool guy to hang around with . I mean in that scenario I made it seem like I didn’t like her like that (I figured it was too early to start making any type of move that severe) .

EDIT: I was actually thinking of trying out some A314 in a to-go (it would be my first time using it) bottle if it would help my chances . I mean she turned 20 a couple weeks ago and I turned 20 in december so we’re still early 20 year olds . I know before I was told that IF i were to use a314 that i should only use one drop/spray . What do you all think?

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**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2012, 7:43am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/escape-the-friend-zone-mix/54353/11 "2012-01-28T07:43:51Z")

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I love the “friend zone” as you get the benefits without commitment. The main problem I’ve encountered is, she’ll claim at first she wants to remain friends but she’s lying even if she believes it to be true. Slowly but surely she twists you into an exclusive relationship and thereby ruins both the friendship and benefits. But then, there are plenty of “friends” out there so you move on.

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**Author:** ![lamentofking](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8491ac/32.png) [@lamentofking](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/lamentofking)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2012, 8:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/escape-the-friend-zone-mix/54353/12 "2012-01-28T20:43:51Z")

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> [@Gegogi](#):
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> I love the “friend zone” as you get the benefits without commitment. The main problem I’ve encountered is, she’ll claim at first she wants to remain friends but she’s lying even if she believes it to be true. Slowly but surely she twists you into an exclusive relationship and thereby ruins both the friendship and benefits. But then, there are plenty of “friends” out there so you move on.

So like is she thinking about us being a couple or something during all that time ?

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**Author:** ![andromun](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/andromun/32/365_2.png) [@andromun](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/andromun)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2012, 5:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/escape-the-friend-zone-mix/54353/13 "2012-01-29T17:43:28Z")

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> [@lamentofking](#):
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> Yeah I haven’t text’ed her(with her responding) since thursday . I saw her earlier this night at this social event my school was having . Just said hi . Didn’t hold a convo . Wondering if she’s wondering whats up cause before I was texting her everyday for about a week . I only found out I got friend zone’d because one of her friends asked her if she likes me and she said no but i’m cool guy to hang around with . I mean in that scenario I made it seem like I didn’t like her like that (I figured it was too early to start making any type of move that severe) .
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> EDIT: I was actually thinking of trying out some A314 in a to-go (it would be my first time using it) bottle if it would help my chances . I mean she turned 20 a couple weeks ago and I turned 20 in December so we’re still early 20 year olds . I know before I was told that IF i were to use a314 that i should only use one drop/spray . What do you all think?

I think the best thing to do is what you are doing now. Don’t text her everyday and ‘be busy’ with other things. BTW those ‘other things’ should also include other women.

Why?

So she doesn’t think you that **she** is exclusively in your radar. You need to break that ‘_friend zone_’ label she has on you. Keep in mind that ‘friend zone’ means that a woman doesn’t look at you in a sexual manner.

Also another member here stated that A314 + IH works great on black women. However, I never had the chance to test that combo out so I can’t vouch for it 100%

Best of luck to you!

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**Author:** ![lamentofking](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8491ac/32.png) [@lamentofking](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/lamentofking)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2012, 6:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/escape-the-friend-zone-mix/54353/14 "2012-01-29T18:48:07Z")

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> [@andromun](#):
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> I think the best thing to do is what you are doing now. Don’t text her everyday and ‘be busy’ with other things. BTW those ‘other things’ should also include other women.
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> Why?
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> So she doesn’t think you that **she** is exclusively in your radar. You need to break that ‘_friend zone_’ label she has on you. Keep in mind that ‘friend zone’ means that a woman doesn’t look at you in a sexual manner.
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> Also another member here stated that A314 + IH works great on black women. However, I never had the chance to test that combo out so I can’t vouch for it 100%
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> Best of luck to you!

Lol . Should I try to make her jealous but in a discrete way ?

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**Author:** ![andromun](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/andromun/32/365_2.png) [@andromun](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/andromun)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2012, 7:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/escape-the-friend-zone-mix/54353/15 "2012-01-29T19:01:40Z")

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> [@lamentofking](#):
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> Lol . Should I try to make her jealous but in a discrete way ?

In a word, yes.

Trust me it works. I had the same issue in college…there was this one girl that was real hot and of course I fucked it up and I was placed on her _friends list_ (aka…“I won’t sleep with that asshole”)

I disappeared for nearly a month hanging with other women and BAM she noticed and was totally different around me. I could see the jealousy in the air when she was around. This time she flirted with me a more sexual manner.

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**Author:** ![lamentofking](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8491ac/32.png) [@lamentofking](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/lamentofking)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2012, 7:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/escape-the-friend-zone-mix/54353/16 "2012-01-29T19:08:25Z")

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> [@andromun](#):
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> In a word, yes.
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> Trust me it works. I had the same issue in college…there was this one girl that was real hot and of course I fucked it up and I was placed on her _friends list_ (aka…“I won’t sleep with that asshole”)
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> I disappeared for nearly a month hanging with other women and BAM she noticed and was totally different around me. I could see the jealousy in the air when she was around. This time she flirted with me a more sexual manner.

Nice . But does it have to be to that extremity of not talking to her at all for a month ? (obviously if I pass by her I should say hey or something) .

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**Author:** ![andromun](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/andromun/32/365_2.png) [@andromun](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/andromun)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2012, 7:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/escape-the-friend-zone-mix/54353/17 "2012-01-29T19:19:50Z")

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> [@lamentofking](#):
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> Nice . But does it have to be to that extremity of not talking to her at all for a month ? (obviously if I pass by her I should say hey or something) .

Hell No! Talk to her but keep it short and casual, just avoid listening to her problems in other words don’t be an emotional tampon.

When I did it, I made it clear I had to meet friends or I was tied up on the weekend etc…

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**Author:** ![lamentofking](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8491ac/32.png) [@lamentofking](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/lamentofking)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2012, 7:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/escape-the-friend-zone-mix/54353/18 "2012-01-29T19:49:21Z")

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> [@andromun](#):
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> Hell No! Talk to her but keep it short and casual, just avoid listening to her problems in other words don’t be an emotional tampon.
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> When I did it, I made it clear I had to meet friends or I was tied up on the weekend etc…

And I shouldn’t text her back&forth like a tennis match right ?

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**Author:** ![andromun](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/andromun/32/365_2.png) [@andromun](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/andromun)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2012, 10:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/escape-the-friend-zone-mix/54353/19 "2012-01-29T22:30:22Z")

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> [@lamentofking](#):
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> And I shouldn’t text her back&forth like a tennis match right ?

Texting is fine but I personally avoid the back & forth, I find that irritating. But in your age group that is pretty normal.

Since you like this girl I would still keep things flirtatious with her but at the end of the day it’s really up to you and how far you want to take it.

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**Author:** ![Apu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/898d66/32.png) [@Apu](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Apu)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2012, 3:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/escape-the-friend-zone-mix/54353/20 "2012-01-30T15:21:10Z")

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Hey man, TUTH on its own worked really well for me in this respect. Keep an eye out for all of its side effects though.

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