# Escape The Friend Zone **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [February 8, 2012, 5:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/escape-the-friend-zone/54494 "2012-02-08T17:37:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![tustinbarrile](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tustinbarrile](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tustinbarrile)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2012, 5:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/escape-the-friend-zone/54494/1 "2012-02-08T17:37:26Z")
I have known a girl for about four years now, we have been just friends the entire time but i have also liked her but i haven’t had the courage to do anything, do you guys have any advice, [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/) tips, or anything else that ,might help? ---
**Author:** ![lakerman34](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lakerman34/32/1663_2.png) [@lakerman34](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/lakerman34)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2012, 1:39am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/escape-the-friend-zone/54494/2 "2012-02-09T01:39:19Z")
> [@tustinbarrile](#): > > I have known a girl for about four years now, we have been just friends the entire time but i have also liked her but i haven’t had the courage to do anything, do you guys have any advice, pheromone tips, or anything else that ,might help? You’re in a tight situation, man. Are you like her ‘best girlfriend?’ I’d make myself very unavailable to her, and honestly, sometimes when I see her, be nice, other times, be kind of douchy. After a while, start touching her in shoulder, arm, lower back area (defensive touching). It’s going to take a LOT of time and patience. I honestly think TUTH + [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) + a LITTLE TAC may be your best bet. As you progress, lower the amount of TAC and raise the amount of TUTH. ---
**Author:** ![andromun](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/andromun/32/365_2.png) [@andromun](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/andromun)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2012, 12:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/escape-the-friend-zone/54494/3 "2012-02-09T12:16:09Z")
Great advice from **[lakerman34](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/lakerman34)** make yourself unavailable to her. Also if she calls to dump her emotional crap on you - cut it off and seriously tell her you are no Dr. Phil. It also doesn’t hurt to break her chops (just don’t be a dickhead about it) in a playful way. In short you have to re-invent yourself from ‘friend’ to ‘boy friend potential’. Believe me, I’ve been there and I had to follow the same tedious steps to break away from that friend zone she put me in. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2012, 12:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/escape-the-friend-zone/54494/4 "2012-02-09T12:45:41Z")
Yup - Good advice above. Four years means there will be a lot of ingrained attitude to overcome and no phero can do the job entirely. You will need to reposition yourself completely in her eyes. I would seriously suggest you think on taking a good break form her, work on yourself in the meantime - and that includes seeing other women, before coming back into her life. Precipitate that “you’ve changed” moment if you will. Otherwise, pheros I’ve found useful in this situation have included: A314 - Increases status and value. You might want to consider IG at your age though as it is lighter and more suited to a young guy. IS - Feelgood, always helps. IH - Helps deepen bonding and connection but use it alongside Ammo and changed behaviour or similar to ensure it you don’t get dug even deeper in the friendzone. [MX297](https://a314.com/product/mx297/) - superbly social. If you can work this one hard, then introduce TUTH, that can precipitate a strong sexual response. If she’s a party girl, thy this - there are several good threads. ---
**Author:** ![tustinbarrile](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tustinbarrile](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tustinbarrile)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2012, 11:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/escape-the-friend-zone/54494/5 "2012-02-10T23:57:03Z")
> [@lakerman34](#): > > You’re in a tight situation, man. > > Are you like her ‘best girlfriend?’ > > I’d make myself very unavailable to her, and honestly, sometimes when I see her, be nice, other times, be kind of douchy. After a while, start touching her in shoulder, arm, lower back area (defensive touching). > > It’s going to take a LOT of time and patience. I honestly think TUTH + P83 + a LITTLE TAC may be your best bet. As you progress, lower the amount of TAC and raise the amount of TUTH. thanks that good advice, and no I’m not her best friend but we are close. Also would you say anything like ammo would help cause i have some of that on hand right now. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2012, 5:31am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/escape-the-friend-zone/54494/6 "2012-02-11T05:31:14Z")
[Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) can help but it will need to be combined with radically altered behaviour. Don’t spray it on and just go and hang out with her - Go out to enjoy yourselves or do something active that also lets you display your most attractive qualities. ---
**Author:** ![fearfactz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c4cdca/32.png) [@fearfactz](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/fearfactz)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2012, 10:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/escape-the-friend-zone/54494/7 "2012-02-14T22:29:18Z")
> [@lakerman34](#): > > You’re in a tight situation, man. > > Are you like her ‘best girlfriend?’ > > I’d make myself very unavailable to her, and honestly, sometimes when I see her, be nice, other times, be kind of douchy. After a while, start touching her in shoulder, arm, lower back area (defensive touching). > > It’s going to take a LOT of time and patience. I honestly think TUTH + P83 + a LITTLE TAC may be your best bet. As you progress, lower the amount of TAC and raise the amount of TUTH. It depend on the situation. If shes interested in the guy, thats a good strategy and it will drive her crazy. But if she doesn’t give a shit about you, she will not care that much if you ignore her. Imagine if you know a chick for a while, that is your friend but you are NOT attracted to her at all. If she ignores you on the streets for exemple, you would be like wtf, why didnt she say hello. But 5 mins laters, you will forget about that event. On the other, if shes attracted to you, she would be like, why didnt he talk to me ? did I do something wrong ? And she will question herself over and over. So my advice to you is maybe try to touch her or tease her and WATCH CAREFULLY how she will react. Does she touches you back? teases you back ? etc. Hope that helps.