# Essence of Steve AKA ICM 2.0 **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [July 1, 2011, 10:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/essence-of-steve-aka-icm-2-0/51040 "2011-07-01T22:27:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![maksimus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/5f8ce5/32.png) [@maksimus](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/maksimus)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2011, 10:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/essence-of-steve-aka-icm-2-0/51040/61 "2011-08-08T22:35:58Z")
> [@mobocaster](#): > > Just for fun, I added 2 sprays of 4x IS a little while ago. > > The filthy conversation that ensued would make a docker blush! > > She is currently talking to her mother on the phone - in stitches! 😃 😃 😃 Okay, now you’re really rubbing it in! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Pandakun](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pandakun/32/953_2.png) [@Pandakun](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Pandakun)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2011, 11:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/essence-of-steve-aka-icm-2-0/51040/62 "2011-08-08T23:14:52Z")
> [@maksimus](#): > > Okay enough testing. Put this in the store already!!! 😃 TRUE, I Missed Out on It… So I’m just Waiting for it Hit the Store or for Steve to Make a New Batch for Further Testing… What Ever happens First… ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2011, 11:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/essence-of-steve-aka-icm-2-0/51040/63 "2011-08-08T23:33:33Z")
I have no plans to make it anymore. I made some, like I always do with a good mix, to see if anyone else can replicate the results I have been getting. The results are in and the formula has been submitted. Unfortunately in the interim some ingredients have gone out of stock. I’m sure if AD can do it they will. Until that time there are plenty of new and excellent MX’s coming out weekly. ---
**Author:** ![2000GT](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/2000gt/32/389_2.png) [@2000GT](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/2000GT)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2011, 11:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/essence-of-steve-aka-icm-2-0/51040/64 "2011-08-08T23:42:26Z")
> [@mobocaster](#): > > Used from two sprays up to four with this girl. Best results have been with two sprays - throat and forearms, topped-up with a single spray to the throat after five or six hours. Seems to make her just want to attach herself to me! I had an almost identical scenario on Saturday. Writing up the report now. I’d say 2 sprays is more than enough 😃 ---
**Author:** ![THE\_GHOST](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/the_ghost/32/1990_2.png) [@THE\_GHOST](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/THE_GHOST)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2011, 8:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/essence-of-steve-aka-icm-2-0/51040/65 "2011-08-09T08:46:21Z")
> [@Steve](#): > > I have no plans to make it anymore. I made some, like I always do with a good mix, to see if anyone else can replicate the results I have been getting. The results are in and the formula has been submitted. Unfortunately in the interim some ingredients have gone out of stock. I’m sure if AD can do it they will. Until that time there are plenty of new and excellent MX’s coming out weekly. Steve have you changed the scent slightly with the newer batch because I can smell a hint of game in it? ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2011, 12:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/essence-of-steve-aka-icm-2-0/51040/66 "2011-08-09T12:27:10Z")
As last night went-on and the ICM2, 4xIS waned, I added-in 45mcg of [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) and that rallied everything again - The dirty talk/play started and whilst cuddling-up to me, holding me, juming all over me, Miss Red **really** got into telling me about her erotic dreams/fantasies in great detail - To the point where she would check herself and say things like - “I don’t know what makes me tell you these things” - “No! I didn’t mean it that way! 😮” - “I can’t believe I started talking like this tonight” - " Its 1am and I’ve been talikng smut for four hours and I just don’t know why I love it so much" and… so… on… And this morning, we went to sign her lease and then went to a quiet local park where we moved between the sheltered/sunny spots and she was just sitting close against me, grabbing/stroking my hand and arms whilst talking all kinds of good things about when she’s moved through. So she’s staying another night! 😃 😃 😃 ---
**Author:** ![THE\_GHOST](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/the_ghost/32/1990_2.png) [@THE\_GHOST](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/THE_GHOST)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2011, 4:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/essence-of-steve-aka-icm-2-0/51040/67 "2011-08-09T16:39:16Z")
> [@mobocaster](#): > > As last night went-on and the ICM2, 4xIS waned, I added-in 45mcg of P83 and that rallied everything again - The dirty talk/play started and whilst cuddling-up to me, holding me, juming all over me, Miss Red **really** got into telling me about her erotic dreams/fantasies in great detail - To the point where she would check herself and say things like - “I don’t know what makes me tell you these things” - “No! I didn’t mean it that way! 😮” - “I can’t believe I started talking like this tonight” - " Its 1am and I’ve been talikng smut for four hours and I just don’t know why I love it so much" and… so… on… > > And this morning, we went to sign her lease and then went to a quiet local park where we moved between the sheltered/sunny spots and she was just sitting close against me, grabbing/stroking my hand and arms whilst talking all kinds of good things about when she’s moved through. > > So she’s staying another night! 😃 😃 😃 Hey Mobo great minds think alike, I ran the exact same combo last night on my new GF and had very similar results. tonight Im going to go with 1 spray ICM 1.0 + 1 spray ICM 2.0 just to see how that works out. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2011, 6:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/essence-of-steve-aka-icm-2-0/51040/68 "2011-08-09T18:12:25Z")
Well I’ve added IS and [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) with my evening topup and she’s loling around in her rather fetching turquoise underwear already - The talk started too! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![mikdal9201](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikdal9201/32/2358_2.png) [@mikdal9201](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikdal9201)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2011, 9:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/essence-of-steve-aka-icm-2-0/51040/69 "2011-08-09T21:32:27Z")
First report with ICM 2.0… I wore two sprays (one on forearms and one to throat) while helping run a college orientation for my now alma mater. My role was to give a quick talk to the attendees (about 250) about being an adult student and some of the things to expect. The crowd was mainly 20-30 years old with varying races and backgrounds, i would say. Although I was getting a fair amount of eye contact and smiles throughout the day there was one instance that really stood out. I happened upon two incoming adult students (women, 31 and 29) sitting outside a building when they should have been inside listening to some administrative drivel. I joined them and proceeded some playful flirting and “chit-chat” about the school and such. While speaking with them I began noticing the younger one was allowing her shirt to fall open a bit and showing some cleavage and the older one was actually growing almost competitive for my attention. By the end of the conversation (about 30 minutes) the eye contact, hair twisting, arm touching, and compliments were free flowing. The younger even insisted on giving me her email so I could find her on Facebook (had to resist laughing at that). Looking forward to more testing and reporting. ---
**Author:** ![2000GT](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/2000gt/32/389_2.png) [@2000GT](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/2000GT)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2011, 4:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/essence-of-steve-aka-icm-2-0/51040/70 "2011-08-11T16:44:58Z")
> [@mobocaster](#): > > Well I’ve added IS and P83 with my evening topup and she’s loling around in her rather fetching turquoise underwear already - The talk started too! 😃 I’ll have to give this a test myself. Got another date today and this time I’ve invited her over for dinner. I get to dazzle her with my epic wok skills 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2011, 5:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/essence-of-steve-aka-icm-2-0/51040/71 "2011-08-11T17:25:15Z")
Very well worth it IME. She’s coming back to stay for a few days whilst we get the place ready for her to move-in. 😃 I am resting for a day or two. :o ---
**Author:** ![John\_Sebastian](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/john_sebastian/32/1060_2.png) [@John\_Sebastian](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/John_Sebastian)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2011, 5:14am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/essence-of-steve-aka-icm-2-0/51040/72 "2011-08-12T05:14:39Z")
> [@Steve](#): > > I have no plans to make it anymore. I made some, like I always do with a good mix, to see if anyone else can replicate the results I have been getting. The results are in and the formula has been submitted. Unfortunately in the interim some ingredients have gone out of stock. I’m sure if AD can do it they will. Until that time there are plenty of new and excellent MX’s coming out weekly. Hey Steve, haven’t seen this formula submitted at all actually. Can you send it please? You’ve got my e-mail address of course. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![2000GT](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/2000gt/32/389_2.png) [@2000GT](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/2000GT)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2011, 3:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/essence-of-steve-aka-icm-2-0/51040/73 "2011-08-12T15:47:22Z")
> [@mobocaster](#): > > Very well worth it IME. > > She’s coming back to stay for a few days whilst we get the place ready for her to move-in. 😃 > > I am resting for a day or two. :o dude…holy shit…freaking exhausted. Need a rest before I write up my report. 😃 All I’ll say is ICM 2.0 2x sprays, neck, p83 20mcg throat (one spray), two shots of 2x IS. GOOD CALL! ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2011, 5:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/essence-of-steve-aka-icm-2-0/51040/74 "2011-08-12T17:02:38Z")
> [@John\_Sebastian](#): > > Hey Steve, haven’t seen this formula submitted at all actually. Can you send it please? You’ve got my e-mail address of course. 🙂 Odd! According to mail it was sent on Jul 26, 2011, at 2:57 PM. I’ll resend it now for yah 🙂. ---
**Author:** ![2000GT](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/2000gt/32/389_2.png) [@2000GT](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/2000GT)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2011, 10:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/essence-of-steve-aka-icm-2-0/51040/75 "2011-08-12T22:19:48Z")
Okay, summarized report here because she does know about AD and is interested in their products so for respect to her privacy, certain details will be withheld. Following the Ghost’s and Mobo’s suggestion of adding p83 and IS to the mix, I had the initial following: ICM 2.0 2x sprays either side of the neck. IS back of the neck, two sprays, double strength. P 83 one spray 20 mcg Participant in test: female, Cauasian, mid 30’s. Is receptive to cologne. Multiple venues: outside, car, apartment. outdoors in a park, hiking, nothing major, just enjoying each others company. Advanced but not inappropriate kino. Things to note: Subject was focusing on app point of p83. she’s very astute when it comes to detecting changes in scent and noticed that I was wearing three different types. Second location: apartment. we’re now about three hours past original applications. Again for her privacy I’m going to leave out specifics so you will have to use your imaginations 😛 Most of the time was spent on the sofa, cuddling and all that fun stuff. A very interesting thing to note here that I have not noticed before. She kept sniffing the app point as I said before for p83 and said it made her feel giddy. We start chatting and got onto the topic of pheros. I felt it was only fair that I clue her into what they were all about. To me, not telling them at this stage is slightly deceptive. Thankfully she was receptive and even interested. so much so that I’ll have to get her a bottle of IS/B and see what happens 🙂 I then suggested that we try a random bottle to see what happens. Since she’s very much partial to [Neroli](https://a314.com/product-category/scented/androtics-neroli/), I opted for one shot of TuTH. Granted this is skewering the results of ICM however at that point, ICM had done its job and brilliantly. One spray of TuTH to the wrist and she kept smelling it trying to figure out what it was supposed to do. It did exactly what it was meant to do and I’ll leave this report with a Sienfeld reference. “Yada yada yada I’m really tired right now.” Final thoughts on ICM and the night’s adventure: ICM: Increased kino, if going on the M3, escalation from one stage to the next is easier, smoother, things just move so easily. It has the right balance of sexual/attraction/comfort notes to it. Very smooth, like a vintage wine or a fine cigar. It works well on it’s own but can pair up as well. It’s not as in your face as 391 which as P51 has said is like a cluster bomb, but more like a laser guided missile. I would not say it’s better than ICM, but rather an improvement on it. They’re two different yet slightly similar animals. Similar in that Steve is a fucking genius! ---
**Author:** ![2000GT](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/2000gt/32/389_2.png) [@2000GT](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/2000GT)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2011, 4:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/essence-of-steve-aka-icm-2-0/51040/76 "2011-08-13T16:06:03Z")
> [@mobocaster](#): > > Ok, Miss Red is sleeping-off this morning’s “excercise” just now. After she signed papers for a new house in the city, about 20 mins from me. 🙂 > > The results I’ve been getting are near constant touching and kino - taking my hands, stroking my arms, she leans right-in to touch her forehead to mine, laughing, then usually kisses me or puts her hand round my neck. When we sit in a chair, she tangles her legs up in mine and the sex is pretty bloody good and so easy to fall into bed. Afterwards, she nuzzles right-up to my app points and holds herself close. More or less, she is just free, fun and horny most of the time. Even when things are not overtly sexual, she just wants me to put my arms round her and hold her - for ages. All very good! 🙂 > > Last night, we went out for a few drinks and Karaoke whilst singing, I had this complete stranger of a woman (late 40s?) come up behind me and start grinding me, then put her hands on my head and pull me back. Then one of a group of three women beside us was giving me the eye the whole night - To the point that even Miss Red was saying - “She’s well into you!” before nuzzling-up close and kissing me all over again! > > At our last bar, which was pretty dead we ran into Hoopgirl (late 20s) - Now she is one of Sporty’s crowd and she always seems to have rather liked me and yes, I do get on very well with her. The main reason I’ve steered well clear of anything more than friendly is because I get the feeling that she may have a very complicated personal life. > > Anyway, she was dancing away when we came-in, spotted us straight away and as soon as she finished was straight over to talk. Well, she was like a rabbit in the headlights as soon as she got close, then as we talked, she was getting more and more hyper, pushing close, touching us both and planted a huge kiss on me when I commented how good she is looking just now. It carried on in this vein for a while till it became obvious she was wanting to come back with the pair of us and told us she was “All ready to go” - then pulled-up her top to reveal a rather spectacular set of barely-there purple lingerie. Was hard to decline but this is clearly not Miss Red’s thing! The kino you mentioned in the first part of this post, I had almost identical results. I’m very fascinated with how ICM 2.0 really is like a kino monster. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![CHALA](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/53a042/32.png) [@CHALA](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CHALA)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2011, 4:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/essence-of-steve-aka-icm-2-0/51040/77 "2011-08-13T16:31:04Z")
Surely informing the ‘target’ about mones would not give true results? The results would be influenced from that stage onwards. How would we know how much was true behaviour or behaviour that had been displayed due to [pheromone](https://a314.com/shop/) knowledge i.e acting out behaviour because it’s what expected from you. I’d NEVER reveal my secret. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2011, 4:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/essence-of-steve-aka-icm-2-0/51040/78 "2011-08-13T16:41:32Z")
I dunno - In most circumstances, esp where strangers are involved, I would agree but there is plenty of anecdotal evidence from certain posters here whose partners are amply aware of but still enjoy their partners pheros for the feelings invoked in their own right. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![2000GT](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/2000gt/32/389_2.png) [@2000GT](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/2000GT)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2011, 4:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/essence-of-steve-aka-icm-2-0/51040/79 "2011-08-13T16:50:26Z")
> [@CHALA](#): > > Surely informing the ‘target’ about mones would not give true results? The results would be influenced from that stage onwards. > > How would we know how much was true behaviour or behaviour that had been displayed due to pheromone knowledge i.e acting out behaviour because it’s what expected from you. > > I’d NEVER reveal my secret. That’s a very valid point. I should have elaborated. I did not tell her specifics. It’s like a sales pitch, you don’t give out all of your secrets, just a general explanation. She knows that colognes and perfumes are designed to attract and that some do contain [pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/). It turns out that she has some essential oils that have pheromones in them as well so now she’s curious to see how I react to them. As for specifics, I didn’t tell her what they did. Besides, I’m not the only RU here that has to some degree, informed their partners/SU/spouses about pheros. To me, I find that it’s just ethical to let them know that I’m wearing something designed to elicit a response from them in a manner of my choosing. Since she knows that it’s for research, she’s not bothered by it especially since I mean her no harm and she’s had some fun with it too 🙂 @Mobo: Agreed. With strangers, definitely not, especially if nothing will come out of it. But in a relationship, it’s only smart as far as I am concerned. Otherwise, to me it’s a form of deception which I’m not comfortable with. ---
**Author:** ![CHALA](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/53a042/32.png) [@CHALA](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CHALA)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2011, 4:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/essence-of-steve-aka-icm-2-0/51040/80 "2011-08-13T16:52:30Z")
It’s like having a taste test on Coca Cola, and one is a cheaper brand, and is revealed as sample no 2 before the test has begun. People will ALWAYS build up their stereotypes and prejudices even before the test has begun. This will have a major impact on results. [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/essence-of-steve-aka-icm-2-0/51040.md?page=3) [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/essence-of-steve-aka-icm-2-0/51040.md?page=5)