# EST & TAH MAGIC INDEED!! Sheba Rocks ;) **URL:** \ **Category:** Women's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [January 26, 2008, 8:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/est-tah-magic-indeed-sheba-rocks/8658 "2008-01-26T20:40:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2008, 8:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/est-tah-magic-indeed-sheba-rocks/8658/1 "2008-01-26T20:40:49Z")
Well I decided since I am stuck home on my butt for a while longer with my husband and kids I would give Shebas TAH, EST test a go. The kids ended up going out to do errands for me. So its just me and hubby home. I used 5 sprays of TAH 2.5, 2XHair 1Xneck 1X each arm. I used 1 spray of TAL 5.0 to my chest. I cant wear TAH without using TAL to my chest or I feel ditzy and helpless. 2 Sprays of EST 50 mcg 1 to hair 1 to chest. I let it dry down and covered it all with Pink Sugar. Got my self settled on the couch in the family room with a book Jassy Jas sent me (TY JAS). My Husbands in the recliner where he always sits. Today is car show day on spike Horsepower TV, Muscle Car, Trucks ECT. He is normally pretty engrossed by these, he loves car TV day and we dont interact during it. Soon as I got settled on the couch for about 10 minutes, he got up and came over and sat near my legs. I was a little surprised but keep on reading. He is still watching the TV and rubbing my feet. Ok this is good. Still looking at the TV and hands are moving higher. Interesting šŸ™‚ Then he turns and asks me if I am ok. So I say sure I am fine, are you ok. He just grinned and said I dont want to hurt your leg. UT-OH We know where this is going. I am thinking well shit I dont know if my leg can move where it needs to LOL Then it happenedā€¦ His lunk head car friends showed up at the door. šŸ™„ I had showered but I am in my cuddly Jammies with my hair piled on top of my head and no makeup and I cant make a run for it. So they pile in and say hello and give there Im sorry about your knee Yada yada . I am like so embarrassed and my husband decides to run up to our room to get something and leaves me there with them. So I figure I will get up and hop over to the recliner and let them sit on the couch. Soon as I moved they both leap at me ā€œDont move what are you doingā€ Going to the recliner duhhhh. So they both insist on helping me. Then get my stuff and bring it over to me and both stand there close to the chair sort of over me grinning like a couple of idiots. They didnt say a word just grinned and grinned like they where waiting for something. I felt really weird so I said you can sit on the couch and they did still grinning. They just were not themselves Thank god I hear him coming back. So I hear them talking about some car problems and they ask him to come over to the garage and look at it. Normally his Jacket would be on and he would be out the door. He says we are kinda busy right now. šŸ˜® Holy Crap this is new. Remember I have been married 20 years LOL. Told them he would call them later. After they left he asks me all sweet if they bothered me. I was like no why. He says they were staring at me like I was Miss Crabtree. You gotta be a little rascal fan to remember her and the way that Spanky and Alphalfa gazed at her with love. LOL Well Leg survived, Yoga came in handy LOL. I was surprised how sweet he became. He seemed to want to be near me more. Just like Sheba said not exactly to have sex but to just be close by. They called his cell with more car questions a while later. He asked me if I minded if he ran down there to help Spanky before he screws up. He never asks. I will definatly be playing with this mix some more. šŸ˜› Tisha ---
**Author:** ![dolly](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dolly/32/1591_2.png) [@dolly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dolly)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2008, 9:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/est-tah-magic-indeed-sheba-rocks/8658/2 "2008-01-26T21:01:01Z")
Good post! However, that is why I never could get into using the ESTā€¦I played with it a few times, but my man is already so touchy feely and affectionate that I would have to like pry him off of me with EST. šŸ˜® And, Iā€™m not talking in a sexual way, eitherā€¦he just wants to be closeā€¦A LOT. He is normally very physically affectionate and that is one of the reasons his last marriage went downhill. His wife didnā€™t like all the cuddling and touchingā€¦šŸ˜® which is wierd, if you ask me!!! But, good research anyways, ladiesā€¦reps for Tisha and Shebaā€¦if the darn forum will let me! ---
**Author:** ![sheba](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sheba/32/1664_2.png) [@sheba](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sheba)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2008, 9:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/est-tah-magic-indeed-sheba-rocks/8658/3 "2008-01-26T21:39:45Z")
Thatā€™s so awesome, Tisha! Yoga is a gift from the goddessesā€¦ heh šŸ™„ ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2008, 9:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/est-tah-magic-indeed-sheba-rocks/8658/4 "2008-01-26T21:44:14Z")
My husband is the total opposite, hes a great guy, dont get me wrong, but he just isnt emotional or affectionate. If you met his family you would know why LOL. Being married so long we are kinda in a settled comfortable place if you know what I mean. Not a bad place to be. He sort of reminded me of how he was when we were first together. You know when your young and just cant get enough of each other. I will defiantly have to test more to see how much is sympathy for my knee and how much is the mix but I have been hurt all week and he acted out of character today. I think I need more TAL though. I felt sort of self consious and helpless and I only had 5 sprays of TAH on. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![sheba](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sheba/32/1664_2.png) [@sheba](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sheba)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2008, 10:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/est-tah-magic-indeed-sheba-rocks/8658/5 "2008-01-26T22:07:01Z")
I totally understand. Itā€™s so nice to have a special little mix that brings out that especially affectionate side from time to time. I rarely EST my bf, itā€™s so special. But when I doā€¦ oh boy! hahaha I donā€™t think another spray of TAL would hurt. Have you tried adding all your TAH to your back? Like neck, hair and back of shoulders, maybe. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2008, 10:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/est-tah-magic-indeed-sheba-rocks/8658/6 "2008-01-26T22:12:09Z")
I thought about using it to my back but I was gonna be on my back on the couch (Behave) šŸ˜ƒ so I figured it wouldnt diffuse well. Goddess I want my knee back ā˜¹ It is feeling better though LOL Tisha ---
**Author:** ![MadisonTate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9e5f3/32.png) [@MadisonTate](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MadisonTate)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2008, 11:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/est-tah-magic-indeed-sheba-rocks/8658/7 "2008-01-26T23:15:06Z")
> [@dolly](#): > > His wife didnā€™t like all the cuddling and touchingā€¦šŸ˜® which is wierd, if you ask me!!! Many women cant handle physically affectionate men. Tater has had several experiences where shed rather push toward sex than snuggle. Maybe its because i date mostly career women or because of my beliefs, but i always seem to be the one retreating to first base. That whole stereotype about all women wanting to cuddle is false. Many women arent touchers and would rather jump a guy than hang out with him for longer than necessary, and if it isnt going anywhere, dont bother touching. Glad your man found a woman who can appreciate him. ---
**Author:** ![Karmiel](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/karmiel/32/2234_2.png) [@Karmiel](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Karmiel)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2008, 11:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/est-tah-magic-indeed-sheba-rocks/8658/8 "2008-01-26T23:18:39Z")
Aww man Iā€™m definately gonna have to try out this mix. Recently Iā€™ve tried using just Est around my nephew, he gets so easily worked up about everything, Iā€™m hoping to calm him down. Ohh Tah seems to just go so well with everythingā€¦Iā€™m on my third bottle šŸ˜› ---
**Author:** ![Eslite119](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/eslite119/32/176_2.png) [@Eslite119](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Eslite119)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2008, 6:36am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/est-tah-magic-indeed-sheba-rocks/8658/9 "2008-01-27T06:36:31Z")
So EST is more effective on males? I only tried twice, still need more experiments, but judging from posts I think the ladies will benefit more from using this [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/) than when a guy uses it. I guess what Tisha posted seems to be along the lines of what my limited experiment brought forth: used it solo, 2 sprays (1 neck and 1 hair). Found that one of my older co-worker (in the mid-50s) who is very grumpy, find-flaws-in-everyone type of guy was unusually happy and in good mood. My initial impression of EST was similar to that of Shine. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2008, 10:14am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/est-tah-magic-indeed-sheba-rocks/8658/10 "2008-01-27T10:14:10Z")
> [@](#): > > My initial impression of EST was similar to that of Shine. šŸ˜ƒ EST is said to have mood elevating properties in men. Its the female equivalent of A1. Comes from estrogen in the body. Women make far more estrogen then men so this could be why you dont see results as much from women then you do from men. It is also said to activate the VNO for those who believe in the VNO therory. I really had no self effects from it at all. This dosnt mean it wont be beneficial to a mens mix though. If it can activate the supposed VNO it could ramp up other mixes. Tater has mentioned good results around men with there moods so used with a anone mix it could help avoid aggression from other males. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2008, 10:55am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/est-tah-magic-indeed-sheba-rocks/8658/11 "2008-02-01T10:55:34Z")
I have been using Est with different products all week and I gotta say I can kick myself for not buying a bottle sooner. It enhances or adds some spice to every mix I use. I wore it to work. I am back on light duty and I noticed when I use it with Instant shine or [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) people feel the need to touch me when they talk to me. Not inappropriatly just rub my arm or put a arm on my shoulder. I had on 2 sprays of Instant shine double strength on the other day. One spray to my hair one to my chest and one spray of EST to my hair. I am answering the phone and the CS door. Twice when I spent time with a customer at the door they reached in and touch my arm or hand while talking to me. My husband still reacts very well to it. Use it with cops and he still gets aroused but he is so careful and sweet and takes his time. Its enough to drive you mad in a good way šŸ˜› I wore Instant Sexiness A, 3 sprays, hair, chest and neck. 2 sprays of Instant Shine 2X hair, chest and 1 spray of Est to my hair and went to my doctor appointment. Had my MRI already and there was no real damage thank the goddesses but my knee cap was still a little off kilter so he needed to pop it back in place. Bad Bad Bad, ā˜¹ It hurt so I got teary eyed. The doctor actually hugged me to his chest and patted my head. It was weird because I never had a doctor do that before but I dont know him well so I thought maybe he is a sensitive doc as well as a hot one LOL. But then I noticed the nurse looked at him like he lost his mind and realized he was sensitive to my pheromones. (snort). I got a brace that he put on for me and it really helps alot to keep my knee stable. I have to wear it for 2 weeks. He walked me out to the waiting room area rubbing my upper back all the way. My husband was waiting for me and gave him the eyeball as if to say exam is over time to stop touching her LOL I am love love loving it and will get another bottle well before this one is used up. I may buy a bunch and hord them all LOL. On to P106 Keep ya posted šŸ˜‰ Tisha ---
**Author:** ![sheba](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sheba/32/1664_2.png) [@sheba](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sheba)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2008, 1:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/est-tah-magic-indeed-sheba-rocks/8658/12 "2008-02-01T13:54:28Z")
LOL Great post, Tisha. I can totally see your hubby eyeballin that hot doctor. Rubbing your back all the way to the waiting room?! Oh, thatā€™s too good. And I get what you mean about the hubby ā€œtaking his timeā€ where EST is involved. This has so been my experience, as well. Great stuff! ---
**Author:** ![MadisonTate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9e5f3/32.png) [@MadisonTate](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MadisonTate)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2008, 11:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/est-tah-magic-indeed-sheba-rocks/8658/13 "2008-02-02T23:20:59Z")
Tater suggests one of the married women try Dirty with 300mcg EST and 40mcg P86/20mcg [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/). Minus the Dirty, this makes even the burliest guys touchy-feely and sensitive around Tater. With Dirty, i suspect you women might blow a few fuses. Be sure to cover. EST smells great, but P86/P83 sure dont.