# Evolutionary psychology: -Rone men and -None Men

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**Category:** Pheromone Theory & Molecules\
**Created:** [September 29, 2005, 8:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/evolutionary-psychology-rone-men-and-none-men/19 "2005-09-29T20:06:50Z")\
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**Post date:** [February 17, 2008, 5:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/evolutionary-psychology-rone-men-and-none-men/19/25 "2008-02-17T17:13:32Z")

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> [@renny](#):
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> I’m wondering, in the two and a half years since Michael’s original post there has been a lot of testing of his assertion on this board. Do any of you long time testers have anything to add to this now? Is there a balance to be found between the the two; -Androsterone and -none? Do any of the putatives show a midpoint of attraction between the two? After all, most of us surely fall at some middle place in the spectrum. Is the greatest attraction to be found at the extremes?

In this context see my 2007 post on [Tournament and pair-bonding strategies for pheromone use](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tournament-and-pair-bonding-strategies-for-pheromone-use/4009) .

I’m convinced that there are pheromonal markers for these two strategies, although it might not be quite as simple as rone vs. anone. However, I agree that those two pheormones seem to play major roles.

In my experience rone and anone give better results together than when used in isolation. MHarris obliquely stated this. The ratio can be varied continously from strong rone with a hint of anone (a314) to strong anone with a hint of rone (no corresponding androtics product). The latter gives a more agressive aura, but there still appears to be substance behind it. It is useful some times in a business or negotiating context.

Investment in the experimone anone and rone products gives one the ability to play with custom rone/anone ratios. It’s quite fun to explore, and most of the points on the spectrum have their own interest. My “basecoat” formulations utilize a 50/50 mix of rone/anone, and I can tweak the ratios one way or another from there by adding other pheromones.

Interestingly, a 50/50 mix strikes me as among the most “natural,” and off-the-wall reactions are less likely than mixes unbalanced towards either end of the spectrum. However, it does communicate an understated power of sorts, and I find that mix to be more useful on a day-to-day basis than some of the more extreme ratios.

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