# Evolver's Pherojournal **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Journals\ **Created:** [November 21, 2010, 9:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/evolvers-pherojournal/43449 "2010-11-21T21:06:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2011, 7:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/evolvers-pherojournal/43449/41 "2011-10-04T19:51:10Z")
> [@evolver](#): > > I had an interesting thought the other day. It seems that as men mature, and grow older, they become increasingly attractive to women. Not only to younger women, but women of all ages. I wonder if this has to do with the decrease in androstenone production. Yes, androstenone is attractive to women, however it does have the self effects on the wearer (or producer!) that can cause aggressive behavior, conflict, and anger. I have seen that as I have grown older, and wiser, there was a marked time, around the time that I found androtics (Age 25), that I began to become calmer. The swirling seas of my mind stopped producing white caps, and I became calm, tranquil. At the same time, this stillness allowed me to focus my efforts on improving myself and for the first time, setting out on the path to start my life plan. These things are all very attractive to women. > > In sperm wars (an amazing book, really), they talk about two types of man that women seek. The one she seeks during copulation (alpha, dominant) and the one she seeks for raising a child (beta, long-term). I can’t help but wonder if this is why 🙂 I would imagine that women wouldn’t want a beta man for long term relationship. I believe through evolution that the higher Androstenone signature is where the strong are seperated by the weak and once those are set apart that’s when the need for an experienced and even tempered mate is the most suitable. ---
**Author:** ![evolver](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/evolver/32/1896_2.png) [@evolver](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/evolver)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2011, 4:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/evolvers-pherojournal/43449/42 "2011-11-27T16:48:26Z")
Well, I’m out again testing new stuff. I used some of my MX391 last night at a reggae show. The show was at a francophone bar, so many girls were only talking if you spoke French. I ended up going home with a girl, she was not exactly my type but I was drunk. I didn’t get much attention or attraction, except for a GORGEOUS bartender that is exactly my type and so cute. She poured me a shot, gave me extra tall beers and then slipped me her name for Facebook at the end of the night. Win!!! That’s all I need 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![evolver](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/evolver/32/1896_2.png) [@evolver](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/evolver)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2012, 2:06am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/evolvers-pherojournal/43449/43 "2012-01-04T02:06:47Z")
NYE I tried one spray of MX391. First stop a house party… I got a lot of compliments, because I was wearing a tux. Lots of women vying for my attention but they were young, or nerdy, or unattractive. I left for a pre planned date with someone I have known for a while. I had quite a bit to drink but it didn’t show. She jumped down my throat at midnight, but afterwards was very wary, staying away from me on the dancefloor. I needed to build some comfort but was too drunk/overconfident. I got a bit frustrated by her behavior and thought it was my fault… it wasn’t really, just that she was a bit uncomfortable. She overcommited soon (our date started at 11:30pm) and it had been a while since we had seen eachother. We have another date planned at some future date, so i’ll tone down the androstenone for next time… ---
**Author:** ![evolver](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/evolver/32/1896_2.png) [@evolver](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/evolver)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2012, 11:01am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/evolvers-pherojournal/43449/44 "2012-07-27T11:01:00Z")
Quick message to say I miss you guys and gals and I will be coming back soon. ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2012, 12:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/evolvers-pherojournal/43449/45 "2012-07-27T12:55:22Z")
And I miss you and your awesome reports 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![1Alpha](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/1alpha/32/190_2.png) [@1Alpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/1Alpha)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2012, 2:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/evolvers-pherojournal/43449/46 "2012-07-30T14:59:37Z")
Evolver the Revolver… Dangerous man with mones. 😉 Looking for your come back as well. 1Alpha ---
**Author:** ![evolver](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/evolver/32/1896_2.png) [@evolver](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/evolver)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2013, 8:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/evolvers-pherojournal/43449/47 "2013-01-15T20:27:06Z")
Tried this mix on a new girl the other night. Two sprays of P99 @ 5mcg, 2 sprays of [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) at 10mcg and a half spray of TUTH to my wrists. She was very flirty from the P83 and talk got sexual quick so we both knew where it was headed. In the bedroom she was shy, but as things got heavier she opened up and was fully seduced by my excellent hands. Good mix but needed something to increase comfort - IH/IFM would of played with my mood so maybe something else, like TAC. I will have to investigate further! ---
**Author:** ![examine](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/examine/32/1665_2.png) [@examine](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/examine)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2013, 6:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/evolvers-pherojournal/43449/48 "2013-01-27T06:25:13Z")
Hey whats up man. long time!!! I remember giving you the p74/p79/ammo mix a loooong time ago. have you got any new mixes, I’m trying to get back into the mix game. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![evolver](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/evolver/32/1896_2.png) [@evolver](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/evolver)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2017, 2:18am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/evolvers-pherojournal/43449/49 "2017-09-25T02:18:57Z")
Got the survey e-mail and decided to see what is new. I just got out of a bad relationship and want to get some social fun going on. Ordered some MX597. Will keep you all advised. The game is very different now for me! ---
**Author:** ![justintime469](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/justintime469/32/1402_2.png) [@justintime469](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/justintime469)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2017, 8:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/evolvers-pherojournal/43449/50 "2017-09-25T20:42:52Z")
Hi evolver, I am tuned in and if you need anything at all just hit me up. You are always welcome in any one of my journals to and good to see you back. ---
**Author:** ![Dee\_A](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7bcc69/32.png) [@Dee\_A](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Dee_A)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2017, 2:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/evolvers-pherojournal/43449/51 "2017-09-26T14:43:59Z")
Me too, of course. 🙂 Welcome back, evolver! 🙂 Regards, Dee 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![evolver](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/evolver/32/1896_2.png) [@evolver](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/evolver)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2017, 3:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/evolvers-pherojournal/43449/52 "2017-09-26T15:12:20Z")
Thanks for the warm welcomes everyone! Seems like the main forums have quieted down quite a bit. I sincerely wonder what happened to many of the great personalities and friends I had on Pherotalk. I hope they are doing well and still kicking around! Going through my old journals was a TRIP. Have I really changed so much in 8 years? I certainly see a much younger and more naive attitude… but wow did I get a lot of tail. Sad to say a few of the adventures blended together and I can’t even remember all those pretty faces. My perspective on women and dating has really changed too, as I distanced myself far from the PUA attitudes and scene. I saw a lot of good men go down a dark path with pick up artists stuff. Although treating it as a game is good for your “training wheels”, you are playing with real people and emotions. After my youthful forays I learned a bit more about respect and care. Anyways, last night was the first time in many years I put on some mones. Although many of my to-gos had evaporated (Alas!) I still had a couple things. I put on some A314 and MEO-EST, one drop, one-ish spray and went to a happy hour work event. Maybe I am out of practice, but I only noticed one sort of interesting “hit”. One of my colleagues had her husband there and kept telling me how good his cologne smelled as I was standing right next to him! Pretty amusing. One thing I noted was that in the past I have noticed I tend to go a bit quiet when I put on A314, there was no feeling that I was operating any other way than my normal self this time. ---
**Author:** ![evolver](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/evolver/32/1896_2.png) [@evolver](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/evolver)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2017, 4:04am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/evolvers-pherojournal/43449/53 "2017-09-29T04:04:43Z")
Back from a business trip, I used one drop of A314 and an indeterminate amount of MEO-EST @ 50mcg most of the trip. Certainly noticed that lovely drop in my voice register from A314. However, I was not paying too much attention to hits. I did encounter some strangely aggressive males while drinking, but that could just be chance. In other news, got my MX597 so testing of that will begin shortly! ---
**Author:** ![evolver](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/evolver/32/1896_2.png) [@evolver](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/evolver)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2017, 7:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/evolvers-pherojournal/43449/54 "2017-09-30T19:31:13Z")
Last night I tried one drop of MX597 applied to my wrists and invited a FWB over. Within a minute of application, I felt centered and almost sighed in relief. I felt very comfortable. The whole evening went quite well. The woman is a little bit awkward in speech (part of being extremely intelligent and coming from a foreign country) but the conversation flowed rather easily. Sexually, in bed, I felt more adventurous and tried some interesting new things. As well, I had something, not aggression per se like high androstenone, but simply like a positive momentum or something that kept me motivated and focused. Actually tried something I had read about ages ago in kama sutra which was… very effective. Going to try two drops tonight at a large party and see how it goes! ---
**Author:** ![evolver](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/evolver/32/1896_2.png) [@evolver](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/evolver)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2017, 4:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/evolvers-pherojournal/43449/55 "2017-10-01T16:56:24Z")
I went to a spacious warehouse party last night, and tried out 2 drops of MX597 to the wrists. The party was a bit boring, the results quite lackluster. There were lots of pretty women around but everything was so spread out. I made a few approaches, but did not feel anything maintaining interest besides me. Admittedly, I’m a bit out of practice, but there was no BAM of attraction like I am used to with mones. I remember thinking over and over that I wanted a to-go of something else over top as it would really make the subtle effects of MX597 come out! No direct IOIs, maybe a few people dancing close on the dancefloor, and a few interesting conversations, but at this point it is very unclear if they are anything close to hits. Tonight’s hypothesis is that MX597 might have reduced range due to stealth fragrance. It could also be an excellent base for some other pheros. I did feel calm and relaxed the whole time, and it certainly doesn’t have the attention getting actions of other pheromones. This might actually be one I would be comfortable using in a business setting. It wouldn’t have the “heavy” feel of A314 but would still bring confidence. I have been called an “asshole” on A314 more than a few times, so this might be a nice change. I also want to test this again at two drops in a more contained 1 on 1 date environment, which I think I will get to do tonight! ---
**Author:** ![evolver](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/evolver/32/1896_2.png) [@evolver](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/evolver)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2017, 6:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/evolvers-pherojournal/43449/56 "2017-10-01T18:03:42Z")
I was craving those hits last night, so I put in another order. They got me good! Ammo (1x) MX297 P096 @ 12.5 / [Neroli](https://a314.com/product-category/scented/androtics-neroli/) P130 @ 12.5 / Neroli MX351 Bonus P103 @ 5mcg ---
**Author:** ![evolver](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/evolver/32/1896_2.png) [@evolver](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/evolver)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2017, 2:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/evolvers-pherojournal/43449/57 "2017-10-02T14:36:36Z")
Tried two drops of MX597 (one on wrists and behind ears) last night around an old flame. She has a new partner (although things are on the edge) and came over to get caught up. I felt the comfort onset again within the first few moments, and then she came over about a half hour later. This is another person with a bit of an awkward speech pattern (she’s very excitable, and acts like she is on IO all the time!) and I didn’t notice any changes. Or any kino. Or any hits really. She said I seemed really subdued and my energy level was much lower than normal at one point, which was odd. Anyways, we had an enjoyable evening hanging out but there was certainly nothing I could pinpoint on the MX597. Results inconclusive, again. ---
**Author:** ![evolver](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/evolver/32/1896_2.png) [@evolver](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/evolver)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2017, 5:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/evolvers-pherojournal/43449/58 "2017-10-03T17:30:54Z")
One drop of MX597, one drop of A314 to the wrists. Went to a coffee shop to work for an hour, smiled and made conversation with two women. Although they were receptive, there was no hook again. Felt similar to the warehouse party. Starting to wonder, I know they take a bit of work to get going but I never have that problem. Maybe it’s the dry climate I now live in! I have a couple other business meetings today and a date so I’ll update again later. ---
**Author:** ![justintime469](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/justintime469/32/1402_2.png) [@justintime469](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/justintime469)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2017, 6:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/evolvers-pherojournal/43449/59 "2017-10-03T18:28:10Z")
I don’t know about the MX597, but the A oil compared to the spray I had to give it a little time to really effect my targets to see the results. With the A314 REV32 I have the standard one with the EO’s in it and it works immediately, but with the Stealth/Nude I have found that it can take a full 20-30 seconds to hit my targets sometimes. To help this I wear a mix I made of ISO/Hedione as a base on my neck area and then wear the oils typically on my jawline and this has helped with the oils hitting my targets quicker. ---
**Author:** ![evolver](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/evolver/32/1896_2.png) [@evolver](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/evolver)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2017, 11:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/evolvers-pherojournal/43449/60 "2017-10-03T23:22:44Z")
Yeah, I’m thinking I will need to adapt to it a bit. The A314 certainly hits stronger than the MX597. I had a couple business meetings afterwards and I did start to feel a bit of the effect, again only at one drop of A314 and MX597. In the first meeting, it was one on one at a restaurant. I was flirting with the waitresses and had excellent self confidence. The client I was speaking with was very animated but I thought at the time it was just his personality. I remember specifically a cute waitress smiling and asking “You good?” and I replied “Oh, I’m good” and winked! Good self effect. Didn’t notice much from the waitresses but it was outdoors. Third meeting was with coworkers and another company. Once the meeting got underway I certainly felt a good vibe and everyone seemed to open up and get more animated. Quite a few good laughs. Because I knew my coworkers personalities a lot more, I was able to see it a bit better than at the previous meeting. It’s been quite a few years since I used it, but A314 I actually found a bit too strong for business settings sometimes. Maybe it’s just my personality, but it was far too demanding so that some people thought I was an asshole (until they talked with me). I find that because I can appear very serious, I am thinking something to lighten me up seems more in line with my personality and has a better business effect. MX597 might be more subtle than most because of the stealth frangrance, but it might be best suited to a business setting either on it’s own or as a compliment to A314. I will test 3 drops tonight in a one on one with a woman I have been seeing. [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/evolvers-pherojournal/43449.md?page=2) [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/evolvers-pherojournal/43449.md?page=4)