# Ex-girlfriend talk. **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [November 28, 2008, 3:50am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ex-girlfriend-talk/23342 "2008-11-28T03:50:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![MikeM](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/41988e/32.png) [@MikeM](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MikeM)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2008, 3:50am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ex-girlfriend-talk/23342/1 "2008-11-28T03:50:19Z")
Okie,so heres my situation. Recently just broke up with my girlfriend and we’re talking this weekend to try to sort things out and see how things should go and what not. And I don’t really know what to wear for the occasion,she’s half korean btw. My arsenal comprises of Ammo,[Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/),Instant Openeness, Instant shine,Instant female magic, and Turn up the heat. I was planning on wearing 2x Instant honesty, 2x Instant female magic, and 1x Turn up the heat. Since we’re kinda on the rocks I was planning on using this combo as a thing to ease into whatever we’re going to talk to and what not. But I was wondering if this is a good combination for this kind of the situation,any other suggestions? ---
**Author:** ![Warren](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/97f17d/32.png) [@Warren](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Warren)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2008, 5:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ex-girlfriend-talk/23342/2 "2008-11-28T05:25:55Z")
If it is really about talking and sorting things out, I’d lose the TUTH. I’d go with even more IH – maybe 4x IH. Then maybe 2x IO, 1x IFM and 1x [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/). The IH, of course, is to get to the talking things out. The rest is just to make you a desirable and comfortable person to be with so she’ll _want_ to resolve things. But you don’t want her too comfortable or she’ll forget what the problems were that you presumably _need_ to talk about, so only one or two sprays of the other socials. Ammo or TUTH is just going to be a distraction from your stated goal. ---
**Author:** ![emmie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/emmie/32/738_2.png) [@emmie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/emmie)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2008, 8:16am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ex-girlfriend-talk/23342/3 "2008-11-28T08:16:11Z")
> [@Warren](#): > > If it is really about talking and sorting things out, I’d lose the TUTH. I’d go with even more IH – maybe 4x IH. Then maybe 2x IO, 1x IFM and 1x Instant Shine. > > The IH, of course, is to get to the talking things out. The rest is just to make you a desirable and comfortable person to be with so she’ll _want_ to resolve things. But you don’t want her too comfortable or she’ll forget what the problems were that you presumably _need_ to talk about, so only one or two sprays of the other socials. > > Ammo or TUTH is just going to be a distraction from your stated goal. I hope it works out for you. Be reluctant to use the [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/) as a bandaid to fix your relationship issues. There are underlying problems that need to be addressed. I think using attraction pheromones could have the opposite effects..(since thats manipulation)…But hey! what do i know ---
**Author:** ![MikeM](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/41988e/32.png) [@MikeM](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MikeM)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2008, 8:44am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ex-girlfriend-talk/23342/4 "2008-11-28T08:44:11Z")
Thanks. 🙂 I hope they somewhat work out,even though shes a bitch. Thats what I was thinking too,probably more socials than attraction. Thank you for the suggestions! I’ll post back with results! ---
**Author:** ![Siren](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/siren/32/2186_2.png) [@Siren](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Siren)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2008, 6:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ex-girlfriend-talk/23342/5 "2008-11-28T18:17:03Z")
I agree with Warren, use more of the [social pheromones](https://a314.com/product-category/social-pheromones/) versus the sexual ones. A sexual vibe will make her emotionally more confused and would distract you both from the original intent of the meeting. I hope this girl is worth all you efforts and pheros. Good luck and keep us posted!!! ---
**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2008, 4:12am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ex-girlfriend-talk/23342/6 "2008-11-29T04:12:14Z")
My “make-up mix” is as follows: 4 x IH (double strength): Initiates communication and a sense of intimacy, which encourages closeness and honesty. 2 x IO: Irges open communication. 2 x IFM: Relaxes and generates a sense of safety and intimacy. 2 x Liquid Trust: Strengthens sense of closeness and intimacy. 1 x IS: Gives a spark of “feeling better” and hope. This has worked for me every time. ---
**Author:** ![Siren](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/siren/32/2186_2.png) [@Siren](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Siren)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2008, 4:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ex-girlfriend-talk/23342/7 "2008-11-29T04:19:03Z")
> [@catlord17](#): > > My “make-up mix” is as follows: > > 4 x IH (double strength): Initiates communication and a sense of intimacy, which encourages closeness and honesty. > 2 x IO: Irges open communication. > 2 x IFM: Relaxes and generates a sense of safety and intimacy. > 2 x Liquid Trust: Strengthens sense of closeness and intimacy. > 1 x IS: Gives a spark of “feeling better” and hope. > > This has worked for me every time. Catlord where do you buy the Liquid Trust? Does it work for women as well? ---
**Author:** ![Warren](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/97f17d/32.png) [@Warren](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Warren)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2008, 4:34am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ex-girlfriend-talk/23342/8 "2008-11-29T04:34:04Z")
> [@Siren](#): > > Catlord where do you buy the Liquid Trust? Does it work for women as well? I like Liquid Trust as well. I like it a lot – though I use it less now that I am familiar with more of the A.P.R. products. It does have a fairly short half life. Some people on this board insist it doesn’t work. I am sure it does. Some people believe that it leaves them feeling hung over (tired) after it wears off. It works for women and men – pretty much equally as far as I know. Technically it is not a [pheromone](https://a314.com/shop/). It is a form of oxytocin. You can buy it directly from the manufacturer, Vero Labs. Or from Love Scents. ---
**Author:** ![MikeM](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/41988e/32.png) [@MikeM](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MikeM)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2008, 8:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ex-girlfriend-talk/23342/9 "2008-11-29T20:14:30Z")
Thanks a lot guys for the suggestions. I am going to go with what you said Catlord. But since I’m still a newbie at this…with so many sprays where should I apply them? Is it ok to apply a phero over another after its dried? ---
**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2008, 2:39am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ex-girlfriend-talk/23342/10 "2008-11-30T02:39:17Z")
The 2 or 4X in the front is the number of sprays. You need to apply somewhere that the products can diffuse. I would put the IFM away from your nose. Maybe the back of your neck. Throat, hair and wrists also work for the other products. Be aware of self-effects with the IO and IH.