# Experience and scientists needed **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [October 2, 2008, 7:43am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/experience-and-scientists-needed/20701 "2008-10-02T07:43:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![jbg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ad7895/32.png) [@jbg](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jbg)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2008, 7:43am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/experience-and-scientists-needed/20701/1 "2008-10-02T07:43:52Z")
Hey guys, Lurker. Member as of 3 weeks ago. I wanted to posts all my hits, but too busy. I really need your opinions. I have my GF coming over this weekend and I really want her to open up sexually. I promise you I will provide explicit vivid details if you guys help me with some layering options. Here’s the deal.. she is half filipino half mexican (yea she’s hot, 7.5/10 on a LA standard), I’m filipino. She’s more conservative, sexually speaking. She doesn’t want to explore her sexual side. She doesn’t even touch herself because she thinks it’s nasty. Me, on the other hand, very experienced, been with all types, have had episodes of porno-style raunchy-kinky-animalistic-explorative sex, and I’ve been with all types of girls on the sex spectrum. From ones that can’t orgasm, with ones that didn’t know that they can orgasm, to ones that just can’t stop screaming and yelling, multiple orgasms. Bottom line, my goal for this weekend is to get her to be more open and explorative, a little wildness wouldn’t hurt either. I’ve figured if these pheromones can’t get her to jump start her exploration of her sexual side, then I need to let her go. I’ve been spoiled already, by having the best sex with a different girl. I can’t go regress to mediocre sex! I have these products: All ToGo versions Ammo [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/) IS Instant Honesty Instant Openness CTTM Turn Up The Heat P83 12.5mcg MX203 I was thinking of wearing: IFM (because she’s always stressed and moody) IH (for comfort) IO (perhaps so she can be more vocal during sex) TUTH (obviously) P83 What do you guys think? Please, feel free to recommend. How much dosage? ---
**Author:** ![ntk23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/65b543/32.png) [@ntk23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ntk23)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2008, 8:10am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/experience-and-scientists-needed/20701/2 "2008-10-02T08:10:28Z")
_She doesn’t want to explore her sexual side. She doesn’t even touch herself because she thinks it’s nasty._ I think you need at least 2 sprays of [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/) here. Have you tested it out yet for possible side effects on yourself? Instant Honesty and maybe one spray of Turn Up The Heat but don’t go overboard with it- you might scare her off big time. ---
**Author:** ![jbg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ad7895/32.png) [@jbg](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jbg)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2008, 8:22am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/experience-and-scientists-needed/20701/3 "2008-10-02T08:22:50Z")
I have tried all of them individually and multiple for the past 2 weeks. No side effects. How much TUTH should I spray (24 yr old/ southeast asian). Will, 2 sprays cover it? Should I keep it minimal, just IFM, IH, and TUTH? ---
**Author:** ![ntk23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/65b543/32.png) [@ntk23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ntk23)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2008, 8:35am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/experience-and-scientists-needed/20701/4 "2008-10-02T08:35:35Z")
1 spray of TUTH, if that. Given this girl’s situation, try 3x IFM and 2x IH… that should get you a nice connection, the sort of thing she needs to feel comfortable. ---
**Author:** ![jbg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ad7895/32.png) [@jbg](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jbg)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2008, 8:42am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/experience-and-scientists-needed/20701/5 "2008-10-02T08:42:28Z")
We’ve been together for a while now. Almost four years, since it has been long distance, it doesn’t really bother me as long as I get some. I just feel it’s about time for her to explore her sexual side in a healthy open way, without me having to talk her into it, or beg. There, I said it beg. I’m trying to find hope here! ---
**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2008, 12:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/experience-and-scientists-needed/20701/6 "2008-10-02T12:38:24Z")
One spray of TUTH at most. I would even think about switching out the TUTH for [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) but the TUTH ('none) ought to be pretty well buffered. I would go IFM 3x, IH 3X, Ammo 2X, maybe IO 1X. ---
**Author:** ![Wrlprchnx](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wrlprchnx/32/1360_2.png) [@Wrlprchnx](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Wrlprchnx)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2008, 1:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/experience-and-scientists-needed/20701/7 "2008-10-02T13:14:22Z")
Gotta remember however that IFM is COMFORTING… I.E. she will feel more comfortable but not necessarily more ready to try new things in bed… I doubt she is sexually conservative because she is uncomfortable when having sex (similarly… she doesn’t touch herself because she feels like that is an inappropriate act) A little IFM will certainly help her want to get close to you - but in my experience it won’t make her feel like she wants to jump your bones and go hog wild. IF you already have established a comfort zone with her (which I assume you have if she is your GF) then I would suggest light on the IFM - just enough to make her feel safe and buffer a higher dose of -none (she IS latino…) and a couple sprays of [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) (which is supposed to help relieve inhibitions). I would even consider adding a spray or two of IS - USE IS to boost her mood rather then IFM imho ---
**Author:** ![jbg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ad7895/32.png) [@jbg](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jbg)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2008, 2:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/experience-and-scientists-needed/20701/8 "2008-10-02T14:29:17Z")
^ interesting about the IS and less [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/) idea. Also, has anyone really combined Ammo and MX203 before. From what I’ve read, so far in many threads, Ammo and MX203 has the same effects, it’s just that Ammo is buffered. Can someone elaborate on that? I will, however, entertain that idea of less IFM and the addition of IS to the mix. Additional Note: I believe in her case, it is more mental than physical. She does respond well to our sexual acts and does orgasm. She just needs to feel more comfortable and believe that it’s okay to act a certain way and do certain things on her behalf. Her stubbornness and ignorance does play a major role. ---
**Author:** ![Wrlprchnx](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wrlprchnx/32/1360_2.png) [@Wrlprchnx](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Wrlprchnx)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2008, 3:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/experience-and-scientists-needed/20701/9 "2008-10-02T15:03:06Z")
I’ve tried [MX203](https://a314.com/product/mx203/) a bunch - I find it relaxes and makes my LTR more… almost compliant - ready to do what I want to do. HOWEVER, I never tried anything particularily sexual with her while using it. I haven’t had good results using MX203 + AMMO with the exception of a hit from a friend of my LTR after a bottle of wine… that could have been an HONEST reaction due to the truth serum (alchohol) rather than a phero-fuelled hit however. That being said I haven’t found that my LTR react terribly well to AMMO. It has seemed that anytime I combined MX203 + -None I had a semi unfavorable reaction from my LTR (where I would have decent reactions with either product seperately - combined I got a worst of both worlds type reaction). The exception to that rule is MX203 + A314. That combo felt pretty fun - I can’t remember what kind of hits I had, check my Journal I think I wrote about it. ---
**Author:** ![jbg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ad7895/32.png) [@jbg](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jbg)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2008, 3:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/experience-and-scientists-needed/20701/10 "2008-10-02T15:06:10Z")
^ Yea, most of the threads I was reading involved A314 in the mix. I suppose Ammo should suffice. Should I include other socials in there as well?