# EXPERIMENTAL AGENT DOCUMENTS Vol. 1 - UltraGame shares his extensive phero experience

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**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [June 19, 2007, 9:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/experimental-agent-documents-vol-1-ultragame-shares-his-extensive-phero-experience/4219 "2007-06-19T21:23:51Z")\
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**Author:** ![UltraGame](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ultragame/32/295_2.png) [@UltraGame](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/UltraGame)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2007, 9:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/experimental-agent-documents-vol-1-ultragame-shares-his-extensive-phero-experience/4219/1 "2007-06-19T21:23:51Z")

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**EXPERIMENTAL AGENT DOCUMENTS**  
_Volume 1_.

The long awaited update that I’ve promised in several other threads, saying I would test these out and get back with the results. Well, I’ve tested a huge amount of pheromones and here are my findings.

**Pherlure:** My first pheromone, _convinced me to only buy from Androtics._ Everyone should probably follow suit. If you purchase they will most likely send you a bottle full of wondeful-smelling water-diluted SD alcohol. Have fun getting scammed 🙂

\*\*Instant Shine: _Excellent for mixing, especially if newbies want to learn the dynamics of mixing_, I myself have used this product in many of my mixes… It yields a “so fresh, so clean” type vibe, like your young and handsome and just had a shower. That’s how I can describe it.

\*\*AMMUNITION: _I have found that there are few if any self-effects with this product, but the effect on others is profound!_ This is like a make-me-more-attractive spray… It has a great scent and will make females much more friendly towards you (kind of brings you into that little ‘hey we could be more than friends zone’)

**[Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/):** I think this product should be renamed into female smile in a bottle. _An_y _female will be more susceptible(sp?) to smiling!_ It provides a relaxed vibe, sort of a cuddlier more playful feeling for the females. Acts as a depressent on men(including yourself), however. This is great if a girl has been mad at you as if your game is correct, she will be unable to hold back her teeth from showing.

**Alpha A314:** Simply amazing… Powerful and it demands respect. It is oil-based and the dropper may be a little odd to work at first but _when applied correctly, you will notice effects_. Even if you do not feel it working on yourself, as some people claim. It should be fairly obvious what is happening to other people. This is one of the more obvious ‘pay attention to me’ pheromones.

**P74:** DANGER! _May turn you into a social monster_… This is Mr. In, but it has sort of a double-edged sword effect. It adds a flirtatious touch, as it seems that people will be willing to ARGUE, yes, ARGUE their points with you. So it kind of makes any social situation interesting… This also has the ability to get your game on point… you might just vibe and flow with the nature of conversation.

\*\*P79: \*\*_Does different things in different situations_. A great name for this pheromone would be Wild Card because it can add or take-away elements from a mix… It can either synergize or cancel something out and I think this pheromone should not be added to any of your more important mixes. Even when used in the absence of other pheromones your likely to see behavior change.

**Instant Honesty:** Creates deeper communication between you and someone else. Makes your conversation more socially intimate. _Good to add to mixes where a deeper connection is seeked_.

**MX230:** Eliminates ‘aquaintance’ and creates friend; Instant Friendship. _I see this test mix as one of the mixes with a lot of potential_. I noticed the effect makes people want to tell you random things. “yeah i have a sister in kentucky…” The effects of this are very cool, but un-unique. Fun to mix with Instant Shine or Instant Honesty for some synergy.

**Spaceland:** Literally generates Chill Mode. Little concern for anything other than relaxing and having a good time. _Has potential buzz, but can be routed into a good thing through intelligent mixing._ A good pheromone to play around with.

**Come Talk To Me (Mix 2) PRE-RELEASE:** Should possibly be renamed to CHATTER! _Excellent to mix with P74, this will create a super social mix_ and believe me… you will be talked to. The more you use the greater effects you notice, but I have realized it is a quite different feeling to Instant Honesty. It encourages BS talk!

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Well that is all for now!  
More updates coming soon!

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**Author:** ![Jasmin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jasmin/32/287_2.png) [@Jasmin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jasmin)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2007, 1:36am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/experimental-agent-documents-vol-1-ultragame-shares-his-extensive-phero-experience/4219/2 "2007-06-20T01:36:20Z")

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Great report, dude! Keep it comin! 🙂

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**Author:** ![rollercoaster](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/rollercoaster/32/2361_2.png) [@rollercoaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/rollercoaster)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2007, 2:14am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/experimental-agent-documents-vol-1-ultragame-shares-his-extensive-phero-experience/4219/3 "2007-06-20T02:14:42Z")

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In my eyes all this thread needs to be sticky materiel is if you add atleast the rest of the consumer products. (not that my word is law or anything, but its always nice to have a short 2-3 liner review of the different products and theire effects)  
cool post, keep updating! 😉

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**Author:** ![Scaro](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/scaro/32/2439_2.png) [@Scaro](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Scaro)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2007, 3:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/experimental-agent-documents-vol-1-ultragame-shares-his-extensive-phero-experience/4219/4 "2007-06-20T03:00:35Z")

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Ultragame: quick question about p74, when you say arguing, what kind is it? Is the arguing a hostile/intense arguing, or is it more like people really get into what they are saying and dig in on their arguments? It’s just something I hadn’t seen mentioned before with p74 and it interested me.

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**Author:** ![UltraGame](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ultragame/32/295_2.png) [@UltraGame](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/UltraGame)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2007, 3:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/experimental-agent-documents-vol-1-ultragame-shares-his-extensive-phero-experience/4219/5 "2007-06-20T03:09:39Z")

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> [@Scaro](#):
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> Ultragame: quick question about p74, when you say arguing, what kind is it? Is the arguing a hostile/intense arguing, or is it more like people really get into what they are saying and dig in on their arguments? It’s just something I hadn’t seen mentioned before with p74 and it interested me.

With a female… It’s like a flirtatious argument.  
“I prefer kool-aid…” - you  
“KOOL-AID!! you can’t be serious… Crystal-Lite is like a BAJILLION times better!”  
_she smiles_  
It appears females will express their full opinions just because they have to and sometimes just to get a reaction or a rise from you.

With a male… It’s like a humorous argument.  
“I prefer kool-aid…” - you  
“What is it with you and sweet stuff? Are you tryin’ to tell me somethin here??”  
_both laugh_  
It’s kind of like you get a better flow of conversation and possibly less hostility, as far as any object of conversation. Even taunting might become enjoyable… As odd as it may seem, experiment yourself with it and tell me what properties you find.

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**Author:** ![Socrates](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@Socrates](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Socrates)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2007, 8:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/experimental-agent-documents-vol-1-ultragame-shares-his-extensive-phero-experience/4219/6 "2007-06-20T08:40:37Z")

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UltraGame thanks for sharing!  
The points on ‘arguing’ and P74, and P79 being a wildcard in a mix are interesting. I found myself that P79 seems to be an argument inducer of some sort-not nasty but makes people want to get their point across.

I would be interested in trying P74 with [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) (Beta-Nol) together. As in zero Alpha-Nol. I wonder how this would turn out as compared to something like CTTM-M2 (half Alpha and Beta-Nol)…

Visionary

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**Author:** ![UltraGame](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ultragame/32/295_2.png) [@UltraGame](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/UltraGame)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2007, 6:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/experimental-agent-documents-vol-1-ultragame-shares-his-extensive-phero-experience/4219/7 "2007-06-20T18:05:21Z")

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> [@Socrates](#):
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> UltraGame thanks for sharing!  
> The points on ‘arguing’ and P74, and P79 being a wildcard in a mix are interesting. I found myself that P79 seems to be an argument inducer of some sort-not nasty but makes people want to get their point across.

P79 for me can potentially make a mix or ruin it. Like I stated in the document, even alone I don’t think you can really predict the effect it is going to have on someone, some mood, or some mix. If you thought you had the perfect mix… But it seems like its missing something, this might be the perfect add to test if it gives spice to it.

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> I would be interested in trying P74 with Instant Honesty (Beta-Androstenol) together. As in zero Alpha Androstenol. I wonder how this would turn out as compared to something like CTTM-Mix 2 (half Alpha and Beta-Nol)…

For the ultimate social atmosphere I’ve combined MX230 + [P74](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p74/) + CTTM, with some amazing results…  
However, what you suggest might yield some sort of “really get to know you” vibe. I’ll be sure to try this one out for you and hit you up with the results.

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**Author:** ![Kocur](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e47774/32.png) [@Kocur](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kocur)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2007, 3:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/experimental-agent-documents-vol-1-ultragame-shares-his-extensive-phero-experience/4219/8 "2007-07-06T15:27:19Z")

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Great info!!  
Which version of [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) have you used? 1.5 or 1.0?
