# Explain this...... **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [July 30, 2009, 6:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/explain-this/31129 "2009-07-30T18:33:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![thekidrg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e495f1/32.png) [@thekidrg](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/thekidrg)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 6:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/explain-this/31129/1 "2009-07-30T18:33:00Z")
Ok so my ex-girl of 3 years (we broke up 2 years ago) called me on her birthday a few days ago… Now let me just throw out there that random sex between us isn’t out of the ordinary, as last summer we had sex about 3 times while she broke up with her new boyfriend (that she eventually got back with). NOW… since her new boyfriend is spending the next 4-5 years in jail she hasn’t had sex in 7 months since he got arrested. So about 5 nights ago we just hung out, shot the shit, and I didn’t make any type of move sexually towards her because she clearly stated that she didnt want anything like that to happen… ok fine… I was a good boy. Last night she calls again on her way home from work bartending all night.. so.. after recieving my [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) and TUTH 2 days ago I figure this will be the PERFECT situation to test it… I hit one spray of TUTH to my wrist and rubbed together and one spray of ammo to the chest… I didn’t want to come on too hard… She walked in my house and what was the first thing she asks for? A massage. Ha… perfect now massaging her neck and back my TUTH wrist shots were right in her face. Sooner or later she started pretty much saying how she would love to have sex with me but she just feels too bad for her boyfriend who is sitting in jail… well sucks for him doesn’t… she got to the point where she really wanted to stay the night (I could tell) but she just ended up forcing herself out the door (and making me walk her to her car, and drive around my block about 6 times for a cigarette before she left) … strange! Next time I hang out with her… How much should I wear… I’m thinking 2 sprays each? ---
**Author:** ![pherophreak](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pherophreak/32/1531_2.png) [@pherophreak](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/pherophreak)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 6:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/explain-this/31129/2 "2009-07-30T18:47:44Z")
“Explain this” Its a simple explanation. She may have wanted to have sex, but her morals or whatever you choose to call them wouldn’t allow it. ---
**Author:** ![thekidrg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e495f1/32.png) [@thekidrg](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/thekidrg)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 6:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/explain-this/31129/3 "2009-07-30T18:57:41Z")
Yeah it looks that way by reading it… but the thing is… she is going to have sex with me again within the next few weeks guaranteed. It’s one of those ex-girl things that you just know. She is the kind of girl that once it’s in her head then shes doing it. And technically she is single anyways.. she visits the last boyfriend in jail still, for moral support, but is in between deciding wether to give him another chance when he gets out. ---
**Author:** ![thekidrg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e495f1/32.png) [@thekidrg](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/thekidrg)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 6:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/explain-this/31129/4 "2009-07-30T18:58:37Z")
> [@pherophreak](#): > > “Explain this” Its a simple explanation. She may have wanted to have sex, but her morals or whatever you choose to call them wouldn’t allow it. Well just have to see ---
**Author:** ![pherophreak](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pherophreak/32/1531_2.png) [@pherophreak](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/pherophreak)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 7:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/explain-this/31129/5 "2009-07-30T19:15:43Z")
> [@thekidrg](#): > > Yeah it looks that way by reading it… but the thing is… she is going to have sex with me again within the next few weeks guaranteed. It’s one of those ex-girl things that you just know. She is the kind of girl that once it’s in her head then shes doing it. And technically she is single anyways.. she visits the last boyfriend in jail still, for moral support, but is in between deciding wether to give him another chance when he gets out. You said she clearly stated she wouldn’t be having sex with you. In my mind that means she already had convinced herself not to have sex with you. The mones were telling her body a different story, so she was confused. In my opinion at least. ---
**Author:** ![djandarial](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/djandarial/32/1667_2.png) [@djandarial](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/djandarial)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 7:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/explain-this/31129/6 "2009-07-30T19:29:29Z")
Is this what you want… or what she wants? Moral implications need to come into effect here. Why are you going after her as a target and not some single girl? Not frowning, just asking a question. ---
**Author:** ![pherophreak](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pherophreak/32/1531_2.png) [@pherophreak](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/pherophreak)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 7:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/explain-this/31129/7 "2009-07-30T19:54:52Z")
> [@djandarial](#): > > **Is this what you want… or what she wants? Moral implications need to come into effect here.** > > Why are you going after her as a target and not some single girl? > > Not frowning, just asking a question. Yes, Djandarial hit the nail on the head. Even if she WANTS you. She may know she shouldn’t out of loyalty to her current boyfriend (or ex, considering circumstances). ---
**Author:** ![Likwid\_Cid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/67e7ee/32.png) [@Likwid\_Cid](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Likwid_Cid)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 8:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/explain-this/31129/8 "2009-07-30T20:04:32Z")
I can’t tell you what to do but if I were you, I wouldn’t do it. I wouldn’t even hang out with her because there is a a chance of sex. I’d give the guy some respect. He’s in a bad spot now and going to make it worse. Even if her boyfriend wasn’t in jail I wouldn’t push up on her. Anyone can accept sex if thrown in the face but it takes a MAN to refuse it because it’s the right thing to do. ---
**Author:** ![thekidrg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e495f1/32.png) [@thekidrg](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/thekidrg)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 10:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/explain-this/31129/9 "2009-07-30T22:42:26Z")
Ehh I have no remorse… she cheated on me while we were together, then dumped me after 3 years and had a new man 2 weeks later… There’s nothing to speak of morally… Call me a dick… everyone who knows me approves of this. Karma’s a bitch… ---
**Author:** ![pherophreak](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pherophreak/32/1531_2.png) [@pherophreak](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/pherophreak)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 11:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/explain-this/31129/10 "2009-07-30T23:03:38Z")
> [@thekidrg](#): > > Ehh I have no remorse… she cheated on me while we were together, then dumped me after 3 years and had a new man 2 weeks later… There’s nothing to speak of morally… Call me a dick… everyone who knows me approves of this. Karma’s a bitch… What’s this girls name? sounds like my ex. Haha. Don’t worry, nobody is going to judge you for anything here. Maybe invite her again for round two, but don’t up the dosage, it seems you were doing well at 1 shot. ---
**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 11:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/explain-this/31129/11 "2009-07-30T23:26:05Z")
Hey man, I understand the whole thing about karma and how she hurt you. However, would you really want to hit that again after she was with that guy? 😊 ---
**Author:** ![Vaccine](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/vaccine/32/2381_2.png) [@Vaccine](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Vaccine)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2009, 1:47am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/explain-this/31129/12 "2009-07-31T01:47:45Z")
I’d just suggest moving on. If some part of you is pissed, move on, stop caring and remember that indifference toward someone is worse than hate. ---
**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2009, 2:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/explain-this/31129/13 "2009-07-31T02:27:39Z")
> [@mikotorocks714](#): > > Hey man, I understand the whole thing about karma and how she hurt you. However, **would you really want to hit that again after she was with that guy?** 😊 Yesssssss! He does, which is the reason for posting. Just put on two of each, and go with the flow … as usual. 🙄 ---
**Author:** ![Likwid\_Cid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/67e7ee/32.png) [@Likwid\_Cid](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Likwid_Cid)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2009, 2:33am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/explain-this/31129/14 "2009-07-31T02:33:20Z")
Karma can be a bitch so I hope you don’t get anything trying to seek revenge. ---
**Author:** ![moonwhisper](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/moonwhisper/32/1735_2.png) [@moonwhisper](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/moonwhisper)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2009, 4:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/explain-this/31129/15 "2009-07-31T04:08:37Z")
> [@Likwid\_Cid](#): > > Anyone can accept sex if thrown in the face but it takes a MAN to refuse it because it’s the right thing to do. Ahh, I like you already. You are exactly right, but there’s more to that. Thekidrg, this girl will view you in a different light if you show restraint. I think she’s confident that if she just crooks a finger you will come panting at her skirt hem. So she’s getting exactly what she wants right now, which is validation of her attractiveness and the comfort of knowing that she is desired. If she can’t be certain of your undying lust (I might have said undying love, but this thread sounds just a tad dysfunctional), then she will have little choice but to pursue you to re-establish it. Right now she’s in command of the relationship, such as it is. If you back off and show restraint, or even disinterest, then you are in command of the relationship.