# Extreme Self Make-Over: Pheromone Edition **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Journals\ **Created:** [April 12, 2011, 6:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/extreme-self-make-over-pheromone-edition/49831 "2011-04-12T18:10:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Septerra](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/septerra/32/196_2.png) [@Septerra](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Septerra)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2011, 6:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/extreme-self-make-over-pheromone-edition/49831/1 "2011-04-12T18:10:50Z")
Alright, here it is everyone, the debut of: **The Extreme Self Make-Over: Pheromone Edition** _by Septerra_ **Preface:** Hi all, my name is Brennan, I am 22 years young and embarking on what is to be an epic journey to becoming a better me! I’ll begin with a little bit about myself and how I came about joining the AD community. I will then discuss my intentions I have with using [pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/), which of them I plan to use, and finally my plan of attack for testing and eventually mixing them to create unique combinations that will suit my objectives. This will be followed by daily entries to this journal entailing my pheromone fare and the affairs that follow (say that 10 times fast) 😛 **About Me:** So from the preface you know my age, and the plot to this story…But now I provide you with a better description myself and how/why I came about joining this community. I am a college student currently, studying an interdisciplinary major called environmental design. I deal mostly with user experience in context of graphic arts and strategies within the built environment. I am a senior, about to graduate and embark towards my professional career come June. I stumbled across this site as I was fooling around with the idea of using pheromones to enhance my dating life and potentially my professional life. As a side note, I enjoy and graphic and auditory art (I wrote techno and rock music for a good 6 years). I also enjoy staying fit (am doing Sean T’s INSANITY right now, and trying to run 2 5K’s a month). My personality is one that is not easily explained…many say I am quiet, others say I am ‘the man’ and when in my comfort zone I am on the extreme end of extroverted…but I would have to say that I am an over-analyzer, procrastinatory perfectionist, and situational extrovert. I have the tendencies of introverted thought and desire for extroverted action. I will unfortunately hold my tongue even if I have great input…and kick myself afterwords for not bringing it to the table. **My Motives:** So that is where my sense of wonder comes to play in the world of pheromones. I was lucky enough to stumble upon this site, and curious enough to want to test out the products. I hope to bridge the gap between my introverted thought and extroverted desires with the help of these mones. Furthermore, I currently have a love-interest…well more of first time attempt at friends with benefits (don’t judge - I have good intentions)…that I hope some products will help with. I was never really much of a ladies man…always was excellent at the friend zone. But I am about to leave town for a new life, and this girl is my friend that I want to remember for something other than working at a restaurant with her for a semester. Finally, whichever mones I buy towards the latter end of my testing (for professional purposes) shall be used to increase my awareness and appearance to interviewers and professionals in related fields to mine. **Initial Experience:** With that said, I foolishly, as I am sure many have before me, went ahead and made a purchase of two products (full size IO and IH) before reading much of the forum. After my purchase, and my hours spent reading different forum threads (mostly the stickies), I went pleading via contact form to change my order to the To-Go’s of these two. Being the nice people that they are, my order was very quickly changed, shipped one day, and arrived WITH an extra To-Go of IS. Talk about generous… So with the with transaction going rather smoothly, and my spirits up from the wonderful personal note that was written to me within the package saying that I’m awesome, I wasted no time to begin testing my first To-Go of mones. Read on y’all, and don’t be afraid to comment on my essay of a first post I wrote. 😮 ---
**Author:** ![Septerra](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/septerra/32/196_2.png) [@Septerra](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Septerra)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2011, 6:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/extreme-self-make-over-pheromone-edition/49831/2 "2011-04-12T18:40:01Z")
Day #1: Immersion into the phero-experience **Day 1:** Application #1: IO 1x 2 sprays - 1@wrist, 1@neck Environment - Morning class on Buddhism (11am-12:30pm, 30 students) I applied my two sprays about 30 minutes before class started…immediately I felt the self effects that to my knowledge come with spraying the neck. I seemed a bit more aloof, ready to sing in my car as I drove to class. Upon arriving, I sat in front, right by the teacher and began preparing myself for notes and discussion. It is hard to say that anything was out of the ordinary because I was definitely looking for changes…and still getting used to the change in my personal reaction to IO. However, as class went on…I did notice my teacher becoming flustered…even though he is a very outgoing and intelligent person. He was having trouble giving his lecture…I could tell by his mis-wording and blushing face several times throughout the class. Does IO affect mental acuity? Not sure…but I definitely was zoning out a bit…but probably due to my inability to dually focus on class and my first pheromone test. So…I decided to make my contribution to the class and see what would come of it. I do understand that pheromones are not an experiment to sit back and watch..I need to interact and stimulate responses to the mones. I had posted on our electronic discussion board last night…and provided some good input that the teacher liked. He brought this up today in class and made an example of my post to the rest of the students…:o…I would rather he not do that…but I felt it was a great opportunity to spark some discussion. I asked others’ input, and tried to see what would come of it. Now, keep in mind that this class has been very boring up until last week when we had our first group activity. Nobody reads all of the material, and the professor is frustrated with our lack of input. Today…all had changed. I can’t say it was from the mones…or my input on the discussion board…but there was actually effort being put forth in creating discussion. That is all for now…I am still contemplating another application tonight for work…I will be working with the girl I am looking to get to know better (I’ll call her K from now on). Application #2: IO 1x 2 sprays - both on back of head/neck Environment - At work shift from (5pm-11pm, 4 co-workers including K) I will begin a more thorough analysis of effects from here on. Alright…this is where my day got much better 😉 I applied my two sprays about 30 minutes prior to work, got to work and did my thing to set up. I was talkative and tried to spur conversation. My boss was kind to me, that could just be him having a good day though. As the day winded down and we weren’t so focused on our work, the effects of IO started to become noticeable. **Self Effects:** As with the first application earlier in the day, I was aloof and seemed sort of worry-free. I did not heed the BS I usually get from my shift manager, and was being talkative with them instead. It was kind of a bonding experience…he ended up getting me some food from wendy’s too haha. So, overall I was talkative and in a good mood…but a little careless about it…I did not care about any repercussions. **Noticed Effect to Others:** During the beginning of my shift, I did not notice much except myself being more talkative. Later on in the evening however, when I was alone with K, she seemed verrrry talkative, without me starting too much conversation. I did initiate, but she continued on for a while…and even told me about another girl at work that has a crush on me…unfortunately. This other girl is a senior in high school…and I don’t even like her as a person let alone for cradle-robbing romance…haha…I digress. So I dropped the dinner question tonight and she seemed open to it..but could not decide on a night because her week is so packed full of working and 8am classes every morning. I am hoping to meet up this weekend however. **Day 1 Recap:** In conclusion, I feel that IO @ 2x sprays on myself has a mildly noticeable effect on others. I gave my best effort in playing the part of talkative conversation initiator, and got some hits. I have determined that I get more self effects from spraying on front of neck rather than the back. The smell to me will take some bit of getting used to. I normally wear Drakkar Noir…but this stuff smells somewhat like Curve or something. I really would like to up my dosage on IO to see the effects…but I feel the smell will be overbearing not only to myself but to others as well. I will go ahead and try 3x sprays tomorrow and see what it does. I will be going for a 3 mile run in the morning, then will have work again at 4pm. K will not be there, so i will not be worried too much about over-doing the smell…I might also head to the grocery store beforehand to see what happens in the aisles. Thanks for reading through my first log…however simple and boring it was for you 😛 More to be written tomorrow! ---
**Author:** ![Septerra](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/septerra/32/196_2.png) [@Septerra](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Septerra)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2011, 3:29am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/extreme-self-make-over-pheromone-edition/49831/3 "2011-04-14T03:29:49Z")
**Day 2:** Application #1: IO 1x 3 sprays - all on back of neck Environment - At Home, Gas Station, Work (3pm-8pm, Roommate, Gas Station Attendant, Co-Workers) My 3 spray application was about 45 minutes before work was to start. About 5 minutes after I applied them, my roommate came home and was in a good mood. I was cleaning up a bit in the kitchen and he made is way over to talk for a bit. After about 3 minutes he said, “man I feel really dizzy all of a sudden”. Most blatent hit I’ve gotten yet. I kinda played off of it a bit and said what do you mean. He replied saying, “I don’t know all of a sudden I feel kind of high, well more like spaced out.” I got a good laugh and said my goodbyes before I drove off to work. I stopped at the gas station right by work and picked up some pretzels and a 5-hour energy for my all-nighter I’m about to pull. (I cannot wait to graduate X\_X). Gas Station attendant seemed to be in her normal state of mind…hating her job. I very politely and confidently told her what I’m buying and asked if she could get me a 5 hour energy. She gave a big smile, and looked at the chapstick I just bought. The label reads: Limited Edition Design. I didn’t even notice until she pointed it out. We got a laugh about whether I should open it or keep it for a few years to gain value. Then she started to get a little flustered and messed up my order. She was fumbling around trying to figure out what receipt to give me. Possible hit here…maybe just coincidence that she got flustered and maybe just my doing that sparked the interesting conversation. I got to work JUST on time…my manager gave me that “you’re lucky” look. Got a round of hellos in to all of the servers, and got to my station to begin my shift. This is when things get reaaal interesting 😃. The whole afternoon I was walking around the servers trying to spark conversation with each of them, and boy did I cause trouble. K was working and she was extremely flustered today, she dropped so many things…but oddly enough they were always dropped when I was behind her 🙄. Coincidence? I think not. It was 4 times too many for a non-clumsy girl. And get this…the other server (I’ll call her S) did the SAME thing twice…but hers was more of an unintentional thing I think. She dropped food that was going to be served to customers…twice…haha. S was always making excuses to come back to my station and talk about very random stuff…and I caught her once just staring at me while I was prepping food. She seemed almost really confused. Finally, towards the end of my shift, I was cleaning up…and for some reason everyone got really chatty in my area. Every single person that was working during that time was in my little station chatting up a storm. I was getting somewhat annoyed because I wanted to leave haha. **Self Effects:** Similar to the first time I sprayed on the back of my neck, I didn’t notice much of a self effect. I feel that the front of neck is my self-effect area. I did seem at ease again at work…and eventually got some spring to my step as everyone was getting flustered haha. **Noticed Effect to Others:** Again, people seemed flustered and fidgety almost. When my co-workers had free-time they got REAL chatty. OH, forgot to mention…this one girl at work called K slow and said she doesn’t like her. I took this as a jealousy thing…I may have girls fighting over me?? Haha…oops. Application #2: (Atypical to testing process) [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) 1x, Instant Shine 1x 2 sprays of each (IO first) - both on back of head/neck Environment - At my apartment with roommates and a couple friends (one girl I haven’t seen in months…the reason for ripping out the IS) (9:30pm-11pm, 2 roommates, 2 friends) I don’t really have much to report here…it was only a two hour span that I interacted with everyone. Half of the time I was in the kitchen cooking food too. I did however make an effort to sit near our girl visitor and talk to her about youtube videos she was watching. Every time I would stay near her for a bit she seemed to get restless. She would stroke her legs and move them around a lot, and my buddies were talkative and kind of goofy…more than normal. **Self Effects:** Unlike my first application, I only sprayed 2 of IO and then 2 of IS on top. I noticed an instantaneous uplifting effect. I was in a great mood…and still am as I write this. It was perhaps a bad move on my part because I need to do homework…I might end up going to sleep and waking up early to get it done however. Overall, great self effect…I had a spring to my step and wanted to talk to everyone even if I wasn’t in a particular conversation. **Noticed Effect to Others:** Girl visitor was fidgety, and had a few strange laughs that made everyone look at her. She was watching funny videos though. My one roommate is sick, so I am not sure if it had any effect on him, as is the other guy visitor…probably a bad testing session… My one roommate who earlier said he felt dizzy was really happy and talkative…and decided to help me prepare food and cleaned the whole kitchen! **Day 2 Recap:** SO, to wrap up my day…I would say that I’ve gotten many hits. With the first application of IO, I noticed confusion and “dizzyness” or a day-dreaming state from several people. This was usually when I was alone with these individuals. However…when people gathered you couldn’t shut them up. It was like a flock of seagulls. My second application proved to be a dud I think. The hits were mild and may even not be hits. I was certainly looking for some..and maybe that is why they didn’t happen. Come to think of it, I wasn’t overly talkative…it could be because it was my first IS application. I will conclude by saying that IO @ 3 sprays seemed to do wonders…dare I try 4? Of course my horse!!! More to be written tomorrow! ---
**Author:** ![Septerra](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/septerra/32/196_2.png) [@Septerra](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Septerra)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2011, 10:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/extreme-self-make-over-pheromone-edition/49831/4 "2011-04-14T22:20:30Z")
**Day 3:** Application #1: IO 1x 2 sprays - one on each armpit Environment - At school (2:30pm-6pm, Classmates, Professor, Teaching Assistant, Random People…) I started my day off thinking I was going to wait until later on towards right before my night class at 7pm to test out my next progression to 4 sprays of IO, but instead did one for my first class (well 2nd technically because I skipped the first to get work done for the 2nd class which is more important). SO, I hadn’t showered today…and never put on deodorant…and by the time 2:30 class came around I had a noticeable stench haha. My plan was to just tough it out…but with all of the research and writing I’m doing for that class, I started to get stressed out, which led to more sweating. I went to the bathroom, put one spray on each pit and walked back to class. Ok here is a preface to what I am about to call a quite interesting experience: This class is only 3 credits, and I am basically writing a thesis. My topic is Homelessness and the Built Environment…I am at 21 pages and have two sections to go still X\_X. My professor is a reaaaal stickler, she is crazy smart but takes no BS. My teaching assistant is really nice and kind of attractive 😉, also helpful but not as much as the professor. My fellow students (and I) HATE this class, because we need it to graduate and it is 6 credits worth of work in a 3 credit hour class. With that said, here is my experience with only 2 sprays… I noticed nothing much from anyone..just average chatty-ness that I have been noticing (whether its placebo or actual hits IDK). For about 2 hours I did not notice much and thought that I needed more to get any hits. So, I went on my merry way and walked with one of my classmates to get lunch down the street. This place was PACKED and had a really fast-paced, fun vibe to it. It turns out, it was customer appreciation day and we got subs for a dollar! I chatted it up with the workers, lots of excitement going on…then we went back to class to turn in our rough drafts (mines about 21 pages remember). I go to talk to the professor and TA, and they were very friendly to me which was unlike them…and I even feel like the TA was flirting to some extent?? Maybe just my hoping that 😛 Now this is where the story is interesting, for about 30 seconds worth of time haha… I walked out of the classroom all happy to have finished my rough draft, and the best looking girl in our class was walking in, gave me a huge smile…like a really wide grin haha…I smiled back, walked down the stairs and while I was smiling, some random asian girl smiled and said hi like she new me or something…kind of out of place…then as I got in my car and was about to leave…whatta ya know a friend from a while back sees me and starts chattin in up…like too much… One thing I considered that might have added to the effect is that I had not rinsed off the previous mix of 2x IS and 2x IO from last night’s application…and I was sweaty…working up some of my one -none naturally haha…but I don’t know you tell me. **Self Effects:** No self effects noticed, although today I have been in a really good mood, and have been talking more with K. I asked her to be my wake up call in the morning because I couldn’t get up to my alarm (clever huh?). **Noticed Effect to Others:** Well…I can’t say any definite hits with this application, however I did get a more than average amount of smiles towards me today. Stay tuned for tonights edit on this post as I apply 4 sprays for the first time. I am going to remove any that is on there now with a long scrub in the shower so this is a legit testing of only 4 sprays. It is a long and boring class…so lets see what magic I can brew 😃 Application #2: [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) 1x 4 sprays - all on back of head/neck Environment - At night class on finance (snore) ( 6:30pm - 10pm, classmate from another class, bunch of randoms, unprepared and overly-eager professor) I had a rather boring class…and not much in terms of hits for this application besides the normal talkative nature. It was a boring class however so maybe I’ll try my 4x application for my party I’m hosting this weekend. Although…take a look at these self effects… **Self Effects:** This is where things got interesting. Shortly after the 4 sprays on the back of the neck, I felt like I did with the 2 sprays on the front of the neck. It was even a bit more than that actually. I felt real at eased and happy, then once I got to class, I got sort of hyper and intrigued by how talkative I was getting. Definitely a different feel than t he 3 sprays for myself, I liked it a lot more. **Noticed Effect to Others:** I was really talkative so I didn’t really notice any ‘hits’ other than those that were sparked by my conversation. I blurted out a couple things I wouldn’t normally say in class and was a top contributor to the discussion on economics (which I hate). When I got back from class to my apartment, my roommates and one friend ended up hanging out, and still are as I type this. Our friend was actually VERY talkative and confident about being goofy…which he normally isn’t. I am going to smoke tonight…(I shouldn’t because of drug test coming soon…but I work out a lot so I think I’ll be fine 😉) **Day 3 Recap:** Overall not too much to report, but a few good hits and surprises. I might have a surprise test tonight due to high and drunk behavior, but I will try and remember what happens if I do and report back tomorrow. Good night! More to be written tomorrow! ---
**Author:** ![Septerra](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/septerra/32/196_2.png) [@Septerra](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Septerra)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2011, 5:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/extreme-self-make-over-pheromone-edition/49831/5 "2011-04-16T17:16:06Z")
**Day 4:** Application #1: IO 1x 4 sprays - one on each wrist, 2 back of neck Environment - Apartment, Out to dinner with friends, Out to bar (8pm-2am, Roommates, two girls (one is my roommate’s gf, friends from high school met at bar) Definitely was looking for hits today due to my lack of desired hits on the last 4 spray application. I sprayed my first application around 8pm and started conversation with N, my roommate’s gf. She seemed to be rather ‘open’ to conversation about random stuff. We got to talking about K for a while and then about drinking wine haha. So we started on our hour worth of drinking wine which in effect emptied two bottles 😛. Everyone else joined in about half way through…and then we decided we wanted to go out to dinner. Something happened where my roommate, I’ll call him W, and N got in a fight…W ended up not going to dinner, while me my other roommate (E), and the two girls went out. We got a tower of beer and preceded to have fun despite the couple’s texting fight going on. We moved on to a bar and got a couple more drinks…one including a ‘mexican happy meal’ which was a corona, shot of tequila and a toy (mine was a molson coozie haha). Lots of chatter…I can see now why IO is considered to be ‘amount of conversation’ vs ‘quality of conversation’. After this application, I feel like 4 sprays may just be too much. I will test out a couple times of 4 sprays and a couple with 3 sprays just to make sure 3 is my sweet spot and not 4(if I’ve not been congruent enough with 4). **Self Effects:** Slight self effects felt…almost got quiet for a while…until I started drinking and then got talkative. Later on…once I was plastered, I got really tired and was hoping that we would leave the bar shortly after 1…We left at 2. **Noticed Effect to Others:** Normal talkative nature from the girls, W said he had a headache tonight…and same was the case the previous night (both nights I used 4 sprays). This could be a reaction to the IO? **Day 4 Recap:** I’ve decided that I am going to stick with 3 sprays for the next two tests…and then switch to two of 4x sprays for the next of the tests…making sure to have contact with W on all of them (to see if the headaches arrives with 4 sprays). For now I am going to assume that 3 sprays IO is my sweet spot because I’ve not gotten any over the top self effects or undesired effects from others as I have with 4 sprays. Also, I am going to take a day off from mones and start up tomorrow to get some time off from being coated in the stuff. ---
**Author:** ![Septerra](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/septerra/32/196_2.png) [@Septerra](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Septerra)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2011, 2:42am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/extreme-self-make-over-pheromone-edition/49831/6 "2011-04-18T02:42:49Z")
**Day 6:** Application #1: IO 1x 3 sprays - all on neck Environment - At work (4pm-9pm, co-workers) I sprayed about 30 minutes before work started, then came in to work all happy and talkative (even though I wasn’t supposed to work today). It was a quick shift and things went real smooth! **Self Effects:** Very minor self effects…same as noticed before with the 3 sprays. Nothing like the 4 sprays almost dazed and high effect. I was however talkative and generally in a good mood. One thing I did notice though…that I forgot to mention before…is a heightened sense of smell. Foods seem to smell REALLY good, and more distinct in their smells. I don’t notice much with other senses…just smell **Noticed Effect to Others:** I got some serious hits today…one co-worker who everyone hates because he is kind of slow (both working speed and in the head) and he doesn’t help or talk much. He seemed to take a liking to the effect. He was friendly and helpful to me today. Another hit noticed was the fact that K was a little more open to talking and flirting today. She and I made fun of each other all night, lots of laughing. Also, my other co-workers seemed to talk a lot to me…even this girl thats new. **Day 4 Recap:** Overall a good testing day…I definitely needed that day off though to gather my thoughts and prepare my final testing of IO. I will continue my 3 spray test tomorrow (I will be going to the library, grocery store, and possibly to school to get some work done). I will try to plan it so I work out, shower, apply sprays, go out to do errands, and then nap after the effect wears out, and finally get school work done. More to be written tomorrow! ---
**Author:** ![Septerra](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/septerra/32/196_2.png) [@Septerra](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Septerra)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2011, 1:42am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/extreme-self-make-over-pheromone-edition/49831/7 "2011-04-22T01:42:19Z")
**Day 8,9,10:** Alright…I’ve been really busy these past few days with school work and such…so I am going to sum up the important stuff from these days that I didn’t post. I skipped a day, for gathering thoughts and relieving my brain of over stimulation… Then decided to go back and test my sweet spot for IO for the last time. I decided that 3 sprays is it…4 sprays really just made things kinda too laid back or weird, and there were some desired, but mostly undesired self effects with 4 sprays (including spaced-out feeling). Things went well at work and with K these past couple days…I finally got her to go out to dinner sometime this week, and she said she’d even go on a road trip with me 😃. I have been further toying with my altered sense of smell the past couple days, you can take a look at this thread for more detail on that: > [@Heightened Senses with IO](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/heightened-senses-with-io/49923): > > Hey all, this past week of testing out IO, I’ve noticed that with 2 or more sprays, I have a heightened sense of smell for other things. I work in the food industry part time while I go to school, and all of the food seems to have a more distinct and potent smell to it. It also increases my hunger because of this…because it makes the food seem more appetizing. Anyone else have this experience? Also, for those interested in the headaches my roommate had, they seemed to not be present with the 3 sprays…it could just be his not drinking enough water every day 😛 In addition to that, I did my first testing of IH today. Here are my results: Application #1: IH 1x 2 sprays - on each side of neck Environment - At school I decided to perform my first IH test at school (Buddhism class). The reason for this is backed by a hunch that it may be a better mone for social means…but when you need to have focus (since IO makes you space out somewhat). Check out my post on this thread to see what I mean: > [@something for focusing, and awareness](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/something-for-focusing-and-awareness/49959): > > are there mones that enhance focus, and/or awareness? It did not seem to work for that purpose at first but check out the results: **Self Effects:** After my two sprays, I did not notice any immediate self effects, other than a better smell present. I did however notice the difference between IO and IH. It is very subtle, but discernible. It is not as aloof and laid back, it is more of a serious tone…but feel good at the same time. I got some of that spaced-out feeling for the first 20 or 30 minutes, but soon after the initial reaction wore off, it actually did provide for better focus (not saying it is adderall or anything though haha). Class didn’t seem to drag on really…I was actually listening to something I wasn’t at all interested in. Now, as to how much of that I retained…I would say 20% :o. Later on after that class, I went to my second class and had a coffee…then things REALLY started to get serious and I wrote about 4 pages of my homelessness paper in a couple hours, which is a lot. **Noticed Effect to Others:** I did not notice any effect on others actually…but I wasn’t really looking for them, so I can’t say it didn’t happen. For my next test, I will more closely look for effects on others. I will do another 2 sprays test tomorrow, stay tuned! ---
**Author:** ![Septerra](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/septerra/32/196_2.png) [@Septerra](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Septerra)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2011, 3:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/extreme-self-make-over-pheromone-edition/49831/8 "2011-04-23T03:26:56Z")
**Day 11:** Application #1: IH 1x 2 sprays - both on back of neck Environment - At work Sprays were applied about 30 minutes prior to my shift starting, K was not there today, S was there for half of my shift, and a new girl (smokin’ hot) started back working today. I’ll call her K2…not because shes a runner up…well maybe she is…but her name also starts with K haha. **Self Effects:** Same effects as previous application of IH, seemed to be a little more in tune with whats going on unlike with IO. It is more of a calming, and assurance effect. I like the smell better than IO…even though they’re both neroli…it seems a bit more masculine for some reason. **Noticed Effect to Others:** There weren’t any blatant hits that stuck out, only a few occasions where conversations led to more serious things. Unlike my week with IO, these two days have been a little more calm, and had a very light hint towards a serious mentality. I feel that once I up to 3 and 4 sprays I will notice more effects from others. I also have not tested it on any non-work or classroom situations where more serious conversations would happen, so I will try to do that once my roommates return from their trip home this weekend. Moving on to a mone free day tomorrow, and progression to 3 sprays will come on Sunday. ---
**Author:** ![PheroJack](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pherojack/32/527_2.png) [@PheroJack](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PheroJack)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2011, 4:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/extreme-self-make-over-pheromone-edition/49831/9 "2011-04-23T16:16:00Z")
I see you are doing some extensive hardcore testing on IO there 😃. Very good and your congruency amazes me. IO + IH should be fun. IS will be VERY fun at high doses. Keep testing these three and then move on to the real fun a.k.a when you start moving to other “heavier” products 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Septerra](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/septerra/32/196_2.png) [@Septerra](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Septerra)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2011, 4:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/extreme-self-make-over-pheromone-edition/49831/10 "2011-04-23T16:46:27Z")
Thanks PheroJack, I guess I tend to overplan things when i have a feeling that I could always do better in the longrun. Pheromones seems to be one of those things that someone may NEVER perfect…which almost goes against my personality, and is perhaps why I am so intriguied and enamored by my new hobby 😉 I haven’t decided whether or not I want to test each mone out individually for a week, or progress a little faster with some interplay between mones I’ve already tested. I’ve toyed around with the idea of ‘retrofitting’ mones…even though I’ve only tested one out. Heres the thread that I’m referring to: [Retrofitting Your Game.](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/retrofitting-your-game/49909) I might even go back and try out some OD on IO. Well..I guess not OD, just excessive application haha. I might proceed up to 5 sprays, then 6 or 7 in some public places just to gauge the higher end of the product. I might work out something like this: 1 week IO (completed) 1/2 days of OD testing 1 week IH (towards last couple days, re-introduce sweet spot of IO) 1/2 days of OD testing (Two applications, both IO/IH mix, but OD on each separate) 1 week IS (towards last couple days, re-introduce sweet spot of IO, IH separately) 1/2 days of OD testing…not looking forward to the come-down ☹ 1 week IG…same procedure 1/2 days of OD testing…Can you call me James Bond? 1 week MX297…start introducing weeks off from singular testing (intersperse some random mix tests with sweet spots of already tested products) 1/2 days of OD testing…things may start getting confusing here…maybe add in more days of rest in between mixes and OD’s Let me know what ya think! ---
**Author:** ![Septerra](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/septerra/32/196_2.png) [@Septerra](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Septerra)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2011, 10:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/extreme-self-make-over-pheromone-edition/49831/12 "2011-04-25T22:38:12Z")
**Day 13:** Application #1, #2: IH 1x 4 sprays - each side of neck, 2 on back of neck Environment - At work Sprays were applied about 20 minutes prior to my shift starting, another day without K, S was there but not closing. The 16yo girl was there again…she is training to close now. We had some fun conversations, but nothing as crazy as the other night. **Self Effects:** Similar self effects…I didn’t really notice too much of a difference between this and the 3 sprays **Noticed Effect to Others:** Kind of a bland night…no really exciting things happened…it was VERY slow and all we did was eat, and clean extra stuff. Stay tuned for next 4x test. ---
**Author:** ![PheroJack](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pherojack/32/527_2.png) [@PheroJack](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PheroJack)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2011, 12:11am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/extreme-self-make-over-pheromone-edition/49831/13 "2011-04-26T00:11:04Z")
> [@Septerra](#): > > Thanks PheroJack, I guess I tend to overplan things when i have a feeling that I could always do better in the longrun. Pheromones seems to be one of those things that someone may NEVER perfect…which almost goes against my personality, and is perhaps why I am so intriguied and enamored by my new hobby 😉 I’m sure you will be one of these few people who will master the art of mones one day 🙄 😃 Seriously, hand on there a bit and keep reporting, and soon enough, you will get your reporting user status. > [@](#): > > I haven’t decided whether or not I want to test each mone out individually for a week, or progress a little faster with some interplay between mones I’ve already tested. I’ve toyed around with the idea of ‘retrofitting’ mones…even though I’ve only tested one out. Heres the thread that I’m referring to: [Retrofitting Your Game.](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/retrofitting-your-game/49909) > > I might even go back and try out some OD on IO. Well..I guess not OD, just excessive application haha. I might proceed up to 5 sprays, then 6 or 7 in some public places just to gauge the higher end of the product. Testing each product by itself might seem more time consuming however in the long run, you will be (1) saving a lot of sprays by using the right amount for you (2) get maximum results (3) better for congruency. Usually, socials are hard to OD on. That includes: IO, IH and IS. > [@](#): > > I might work out something like this: > > 1 week IO (completed) > 1/2 days of OD testing > 1 week IH (towards last couple days, re-introduce sweet spot of IO) > 1/2 days of OD testing (Two applications, both IO/IH mix, but OD on each separate) > 1 week IS (towards last couple days, re-introduce sweet spot of IO, IH separately) > 1/2 days of OD testing…not looking forward to the come-down ☹ > 1 week IG…same procedure > 1/2 days of OD testing…Can you call me James Bond? > 1 week MX297…start introducing weeks off from singular testing (intersperse some random mix tests with sweet spots of already tested products) > 1/2 days of OD testing…things may start getting confusing here…maybe add in more days of rest in between mixes and OD’s > > Let me know what ya think! I would say that’s a really overplanned and overthought plan you got there 😃 Make things simpler. Test socials first. Each by itself. Note down your results and self-effects. With socials just figure out how many sprays you need to reach the maximum desired effects. You won’t OD. EX: 1 week IO. The next IH. The after IS. I know you can hold on a bit till you start mixing. After that, IG. Just like socials, this product seem to be hard to OD on. You have to figure when you feel like you are “too gentleman” for people. That’s your sweet spot. Lastly for [MX297](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/mx297/), start very slow. Nobody knows the content of this MX. Start with 1 spray for a couple of days and work your way up. People also reported that OD’ing with such product is also hard. Seems to be well buffered for whatever it has. You don’t have any product with heavy -anone such as AMMO, IJ or TUTH and A314 although it doesn’t have -anone, so OD’ing shouldn’t be as described when hovering the mouse over ----\> OD. Good luck with your fantastic journey ! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Septerra](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/septerra/32/196_2.png) [@Septerra](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Septerra)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2011, 2:23am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/extreme-self-make-over-pheromone-edition/49831/14 "2011-04-26T02:23:04Z")
Thanks for the advice PheroJack, always appreciated! I actually DO have -anone now, I ordered [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/), A314b, IG, TuTH, and mx297, and they were received today! I’ve come to the realization now that I might be over-thinking it a bit. Also, I still have yet to be phero-baptised 😃. I might just try something fun soon for the hell of it, then hit back on schedule. ---
**Author:** ![Septerra](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/septerra/32/196_2.png) [@Septerra](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Septerra)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2011, 3:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/extreme-self-make-over-pheromone-edition/49831/15 "2011-05-01T15:36:21Z")
**Day 14-18:** Application #1: Ammo 1x, IS 1x, IG 1x, IO 1x, IH 1x 1 spray each - 2 each side of neck, 1 on back of neck Environment - To the bars Since I had just gotten my shipment of new mones…I figured it was a great time to get my baptism in. I really hadn’t had too much fun with this stuff, so I had to go for the gold. Things were a little crazy. I ended up telling one dude about them and giving him a sample as a means of just seeing how he reacted to the self effects of IS haha. He is not someone that I’ve known and he isn’t in my social circle really…kind of just introduced to the group of friends sort of guy. Anyways, we headed out to the bars and I was getting looks from ALL over the place. It was kind of crazy. I ran into this girl that I had met before and she was almost overwhelmed. Then…I got really drunk and don’t remember anything. OOPS…failure of a test. Application #2: A314a 1 spray - back of neck Environment - at work So, the day previous to this test I had gotten in an arguement with my shift manager. I REALLY needed to do school work or I would have failed a class of mine. I called off from work. They were already short of people…and there are so many problems at work…including no exhaust (leaving the store to be 88 degrees F)…not fun working conditions…especially when you have to clean an oven!!! So I applied my a314a and went out to not get any bullshit. Oh boy did it work wonders. I had a chip on my shoulder, walked in and he gave a smile like thank god he came in today. I walked right up and got our disagreement out right away, and he pretty much just listened the whole time in a submissive state. He is normally a high-strung guy too. It wasn’t all too noticeable, but from the perspective of this argument and knowing his personality…it went a bit differently than it would have w/o the a314a. Application #3: Ammo 1x, IH 1x, IO 1x, IS 1x 1 spray each - back, and sides of neck of neck Environment - at the apartment K called me up and she needed me to get her alcohol for her girls night out…oh great…haha She came over and picked me up to go to the liquor store (I had already been drinking a fair amount). As soon as we got in the car she sensed a difference. She asked if anyone else smelt nail polish remover?! Haha…I don’t know if that’s a coincidence…but probably not. So the stores were closed…she came back and pre-gamed at my place for a bit…I pondered whether or not I should go with them..and decided I didn’t want to be the only guy among a bunch of girls (usually seen as the gay friend). Her roommate came over to pregame, and supposedly they got really drunk off of nothing…I only gave them a couple shots each of caramel vodka, and some of the chocolate infused whipped cream (which gave me a terrible sore throat by the way). Not a productive testing session, but I figured I would gauge her and her friends response to my new signal…they were sort of quiet…trying to figure me out sort of thing…nothing really out of the ordinary…I was kind of more in-tune with the nfl draft than I was them…so congruency failed haha. I will be getting back on my testing now… I am going to start first with testing out IG. Cheeeeeeers! ---
**Author:** ![Septerra](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/septerra/32/196_2.png) [@Septerra](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Septerra)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2011, 3:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/extreme-self-make-over-pheromone-edition/49831/16 "2011-05-03T15:23:31Z")
**Days 19, 20:** Application #1: IG 1x 2 sprays, back of neck Environment - At work Back on track after a fun baptism…could have been crazier…but I don’t like wasting my test products 😉 SO, with my first legit testing of IG as a solo product, I decided to do it at work when I knew K was working. S also worked that night. Throughout the night…and in previous nights, these two girls have seemed to grow a lot closer and are going out to the bars and stuff together. So…this is kind of a good thing for me because S is enamored with me…ever since day 1 she has clung to me at work. It is just that type of friendship that we get along on multiple levels…humor…musical abilities…personality…etc. I am just not attracted to her at all unfortunately. With that said, K gets some social proof if you will of S telling her good stuff about me. WINNING. Heres the details of effects from my first IG application: **Self Effects:** I didn’t notice any unique heady-type feeling as I did with the socials…it seemed to just be a nice smell, and a placebo effect of “now I’m cool…like James Bond”. Shaken, not stirred. However, as the night went on…I did notice little subtleties of my behavior and mood changing. I definitely got a little edgy at times..but this was due to a VERY busy day at work and the fact we ran out of food to serve and customers were returning food…etc. We all got a little pissy for a bit…then things cooled down. After emotions ran their course, and even before the food fiasco, I did notice that I carried my conversations with a bit of style. I felt a bit more smooth in my speaking like I didn’t give a damn. I’m kind of excited for IG 3 sprays 🆒 **Noticed Effects to Others:** When I got into work, it seemed that everyone flocked to my station..as they did with IO 3 and 4 sprays. I had a crowd around me just chatting away. K and S seemed to go off into the corners of the store to talk in private a lot. Who knows what they’re talking about…women 🙄 Besides this…not much different…no extra motor-mouth or deep-seated conversation…just a normal group of co-workers it seemed. Application #2: IG 1x 2 sprays - 1 each side of neck Environment - Out and about… For my second application I decided to put it on before I went out to do some chores. I cleaned my apartment, did some laundry, got some groceries…etc. Oh, also…My roommates left for home today so they will not be in any more of my stories…for a while. Another friend moved in to the apartment today. He has been a floater for a while living at other peoples’ places haha. He is really chill…shares the more geeky, musical side of my personality, whereas my other roommates where more extroverted…playing sports type. I am some-what rounded..but not exceptional any any particular thing…but that’s besides the point…The important thing is…this new guy is pretty cool…and there will be some stories guaranteed involving him…I’ll call him R. Back to the 2nd application: I sprayed 2 sprays about 20 minutes before R got to the apartment and an hour prior to when my roommates left. **Self Effects:** Same thing as last self effects really…but I did get in that mood to just get stuff done…no procrastination was prevalent. **Noticed Effects to Others:** Here is where this application became interesting. I got several IOI’s from random girls in the grocery store, at the gas station, etc. One girl in the grocery store caught my eyes from about 30 feet away…and literally we stared walking past one another for a good 8-10 seconds lmao. As she neared closer…she began to smile and I gave a little coon-smile back, and I whispered ‘hi’…and that was it. I couldn’t find her to walk past again…but quite an intense staring session for a random haha. The other IOI’s were nothing special…I just noticed more girls smiling in general. I got a few more sir’s and thank you’s thrown at me today, but nothing crazy. I am looking forward to the effect 3 sprays and 4 sprays will have! I am taking a day off so I can get school work done and not focus on IOI’s 😮 I REALLLLLY need to finish my research by thursday or I might not graduate ☹ I will NOT let that happen. Time to throw _ **Star Power** _ on. Homelessness Research ain’t got nothin on me. Stay tuned for a couple…I’ll report back with probably 2 @ 3 sprays applications. ---
**Author:** ![jazzysax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/bbe5ce/32.png) [@jazzysax](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jazzysax)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2011, 4:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/extreme-self-make-over-pheromone-edition/49831/17 "2011-05-03T16:13:33Z")
> [@Septerra](#): > > I REALLLLLY need to finish my research by thursday or I might not graduate ☹ I will NOT let that happen. it’s amazing how pheromones become a natural obsession. ---
**Author:** ![Septerra](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/septerra/32/196_2.png) [@Septerra](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Septerra)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2011, 5:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/extreme-self-make-over-pheromone-edition/49831/18 "2011-05-03T17:08:54Z")
> [@jazzysax](#): > > it’s amazing how pheromones become a natural obsession. You got that right…obsession is the perfect word for what I am experiencing. Oh yeah…that and regret for finding something so amazing during a time when I need not be focused on ANYTHING other than school. 🙄 ---
**Author:** ![Septerra](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/septerra/32/196_2.png) [@Septerra](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Septerra)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2011, 8:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/extreme-self-make-over-pheromone-edition/49831/19 "2011-05-08T20:04:42Z")
**Days 21-24:** Skip the first two applications if you just want to read the interesting stuff… Application #1: IG 1x 3 sprays, back and sides of neck Environment - At work After my day off, I moved up to 3 sprays of IG, heres what ensued: **Self Effects:** I felt more at ease, sort of like nothing could phase me…I felt like I didn’t care what anyone thought…There is definitely a significant difference between this mone and the socials. It almost seems like this mone portrays my already existing personality to a more extreme. I am already a calm and cool/collected guy that doesn’t take shit from people…and that is sort of what this portrays I feel like. In addition to the self effects, here is what I got from others… **Noticed Effects to Others:** I did not notice too much of a difference between the 2 and 3 sprays at first…until S came into my conversations. HOLY CRAP did this stuff affect this girl. It did not show with other girls as much…although they still did migrate towards me and talk more with me…but thats probably due to their already established relationship with me and their recent exposures to me with social mones… SO, this girl S seemed all googly-eyed her whole time around me. I could even tell that when she talked with me and laughed at everything I said she had watery eyes…craziness. The next couple of hours after work, she posted on my facebook and started liking all of my comments and stuff…a little overboard…but I enjoyed the attention 🆒 Keep in mind this girl has a boyfriend…and what is he thinking about her facebook-obsession with me? 🙄 Besides that, K was at work…but I am not getting the same vibe from her anymore…but this is probably due to the fact that I will be leaving soon and wont get to spend anymore time with her. It sucks I know…I am just hoping that she comes down to visit. If not, oh well…as they say: when one door closes, another opens. Application #2: IG 1x 3 sprays - back and sides of neck Environment - at work again … For my second application at 3 sprays, I decided to test it again at work to see if I got similar results. **Self Effects:** Same self effects really…however I was late to work so I did have a less-than-happy mindset and my manager wasn’t too happy because it was busy! **Noticed Effects to Others:** Unfortunately, S wasn’t working that day so I couldn’t do a re-test of her reaction to it. K wasn’t there either…was an overall lame set of co-workers. This other girl C was there that is really cute (also has a boyfriend, and is 18) but really too young for me. Her and I go back and forth a lot, and recently she bought me two bottles of wine because I covered her shift. She is like that good friend that I talk to at work that is also easy on the eyes 🙄 Besides her and I talking for a while about rumors and crazy stuff that happens at work…nothing else was noticed from the other girls. **This was a VERY eventful evening, if you’re going to read any of my posts in these couple days, I suggest it be this one…** Application #3: AMMO 1x, IS 1x, IH 1x, TUTH 1x, IO 1x 2 sprays each, 4 sprays IS - back and sides of neck, wrists/neck for IS, light green mones were sprayed on later Environment - out to the club for cinco de mayo!! … I began the night off thinking I was going to go to this place that is supposedly the biggest cinco de mayo party in the city…then ended up taking a taxi downtown to some different bars…what follows is a night to remember 😮 I applied the sprays about 30 minutes before the taxi arrived, I went with my one buddy who I recently started hanging out with who is a bouncer at a local bar. We met up with a couple of his friends at a bar that we got in for free to. Also, he knew the bartender so we got free drinks…we ended up leaving there for some reason (I really wanted to take advantage of those free drinks more!) We went to another bar…which was a big mistake on our part…they patted us down for weapons (first sign we should have skipped out), then charged us $5 for what looked like a pretty slim crowd and a tacky environment. People were wearing mexican stuff…there were lazers and fog…and no dancing going on…haha. I searched around for some potentials, lots of really dirty looking girls (slutty-type). It was a very diverse crowd and a lot of one on one grinding going on in corners and stuff haha. I figured this was a great time to apply my TUTH and IO (2 sprays tuth, 4 sprays IO) Not 2 minutes after I applied the mones, my buddies said lets get out of here 😠 I wanted a chance to see the new products in action…Oh well. We then went to another bar that was going to charge us $5 again..we skipped out and went to this one down the street in hopes of no cover. THIS is where stuff gets fun 😉 This bar…oh my god…SO AWESOME. Packed with VERY attractive girls…many were quite young it seemed, but there were so many people that this wasn’t a problem. Girls dancing up on the bar (not employees), there was an upstairs balcony where you could look down at the main bar floor (it is 21+ up there which is where we decided to migrate to). On our way trying to get over to the stairs…it took about 15 minutes…no lie…SO freaking packed you couldn’t move it was like a mosh pit. We get upstairs, and its a more chill environment, and the caliber of women was LEGIT. I am a fool for blondes and redheads over brunettes, and guess what…I was happy with what I saw! I started off by ordering some tequila to get my outgoing personality in action. I will sum up this night by stating the following things: I was in a train (6 people) of grinding with fairly hot girls (one of which I got a number from…still haven’t called 🙄) We got a girl that was outside waiting in line to get in to show us her tits (twice). They had piercings…nice. I bummed a smoke (I know..disgusting…I hate when I do that) off of some middle eastern guys out there who were cheering me on in my efforts to get girls to pretend it was mardi gras. I ended up asking them what they thought of Osama’s death…they kind of just stared at me and said…he is a crazy mother-fucker…haha that was the end of that conversation… I ended up getting really drunk and we then got a ride back from some girl to my buddy’s apartment…she was hot. I woke up, went to work the next day hungover as hell, decided that I wanted to go to this open bar that night for my friend’s going away to Europe party. On the way there…I realize…oh shit…I definitely lost my ID at the bar last night. FAAACK. The problem with this is…I am done with school…I want to drink to celebrate…I don’t have a passport…I am leaving for the south in a couple weeks and it would be pointless to get another one for this state…I am very mad at myself. Sorry for the long story, but a lot needed to be said for this night to be covered! **Self Effects:** This combo got me really horny…yeah…I just wanted to dance with every girl I saw…was kind of crazy. I know I can work it better though…I was kind of hesitant at first :o **Noticed Effects to Others:** I got a decent amount of IOI’s…one including a girl straight up rubbing her hand on my cash and prizes…quite blatant and I didn’t know what to say to her hah…I was still sober at this point and didn’t have the tequila confidence yet to act on it. Besides that, girls were really drunk and just wanted to dance…I feel like I really need to get some one on one at the bar with some girls to test out the mones…otherwise just moving on from girl to girl seems kind of pointless now that I think about it. Next step…move on to 4 sprays IG and see what happens 😮 Wish me luck. ---
**Author:** ![Septerra](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/septerra/32/196_2.png) [@Septerra](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Septerra)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2011, 2:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/extreme-self-make-over-pheromone-edition/49831/20 "2011-05-26T14:44:04Z")
**A Catch-up from the Craziness:** I am just going to list 3 of the more important stories/experiences from the last couple weeks. A lot has happened, and much of it I can’t remember because there was so much fun to be had! I am going to work up to the most recent…if you are looking for the friends with benefits party section…skip to the end! Application #1: AMMO 1x, IO 1x, IS 1x, IH 1x, IG 1x ~2 sprays each, back and sides of neck, IS on wrists then to ears. Environment - Out to the local state park to see some cool views, and spend some quality time with K. I brought along a friend too since he was really bored and was buggin me to go do something for a while. It worked out to my advantage because it would have been 2 REALLY long drives to figure out stuff to talk about with K. This mix worked nicely IMO, as it definitely got some reactions from both of them. My buddy seemed to be a lot more talkative and K seemed to be very fidgety and looked at me more. She has always been one to shy away from eye contact, but during this ride and the time at the park she really bridged that gap. All in all, my mixture of everything under the sun must have pulled off some dynamic signal that worked as a bond-creator. No real sexual tension here…as my plan was to prove that I was a fun guy to be around…adventerous…etc. I pulled off some freestyle rock climbing and stuff…ya know. This helped build up to her talking to me a LOT more…a lot of facebook stalking on her part. In response to this…it seemed the friendship that has built between us worked IMMENSELY towards creating jealousy amongst the other girls at work. They all showed greater IOI’s, and C even bought me more wine…AND a graduation present worth $50 at a local restaurant…wow, what does her BF think? Application #2: A314b, IG 1x 1 spray A314b,2 sprays IG, all back of neck Environment - Because I lost my ID on cinco de mayo…thank you tequila…I needed a way to get alcohol. Believe it or not…this mix did the trick…not once…not even twice or three times…but on 4 different occasions!! I got into 2 different upscale bars with no ID (during peak hours too…), and was sold liquor from two different stores without being carded! Now…granted my demeanor and methods of talking to the people helped out a lot in this process with a lot of mirroring and reference to things I would only reference to if I was over 21…but still…my mom still gets carded and she is in her 40s haha. So…all in all…even if I did work some magic with carrying conversation…this mix surely gave off a signal that must have been alpha and probably not too overzealous due to the IG. **Here it is…the FWB party story.** Application #3: AMMO 1x, IO 1x, IS 1x, TuTH 1x, IH 1x ~2-3 sprays each (I was drunk), back and sides of neck, IS on wrists then to ears. Environment - The going away party…aka trying for friends with benefits party 😉 Well, here it is; a semi-conclusionary advancement to this story. Long story short, I was planning on trying something at my going away party with K, and all was looking good. She and a few of her friends as well as a few of my friends showed up, and I talked her ear up all night…we clicked more than we ever had. For those of you who are fans of Always Sunny in Philadelphia and know about Dee’s drinking problem when she is nervous around guys…that is what K did that night. She got PLASTERED. I ended up with K and S from work in my bed 😮 mentions of threesome floated around my room while we had a nice touchy-feely session going on. But then everything changed for the worse. My one friend (whom I haven’t seen in months) decided it was okay to steal cigarettes out of this one girls purse (who happened to be best friends with the girls in my bed). She and another girl came running up hysterically saying this guy was stealing and calling them bitches. Oh…my…god. By the time I finished dealing with that situation, I got up to my bed and K was passed out asleep, S still wanted to spoon a bit…but then she left. It was an epic fail by my friend, but in a way could have worked out for the best. I realize now that because we didn’t do anything more than copping some feels, there is still sexual tension (greatly increased), but not the “I had sex with you…now we won’t see each other for months” feeling. This may work out nicely since we have become better friends and I think the tension will build if I can manage long distance flirting 😛 Granted she actually comes to visit me at the end of summer…I will go visit her for (gasps for air) winter in the north…because people like company when they are stuck in the shitty weather. Yeah I am nice guy. **So…pheromone related:** For the majority of the party: I applied ammo 1x @ 2 sprays, the rest of my IS (only like 2.5 sprays), IO 1 spray This worked well…I had a lot of conversation going on…just a feel good aura that I feel worked towards creating attraction. For when I brought the girls to my room: TuTH 1x @ 2 sprays, IH 1x @ 3 sprays This definitely got the other girl S REALLY in the mood. She had never really shown much sexual interest in me. Lots of friendly IOIs from her…but never this blatent. I brought them upstairs to show them around and work my way towards getting them in my room…she straight up jumped on my bed and said I love your bed, don’t you K? At this, K was a little hesitant…but worked into it and unfortunately was just too drunk. Long story short, the TuTH and IH combo is NICE, just make sure your girl isn’t Tucker Max Drunk…Oh yeah…to the point where she woke me up at 6am with her snoring HAHA… ---
**Author:** ![devix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c4cdca/32.png) [@devix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/devix)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2011, 1:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/extreme-self-make-over-pheromone-edition/49831/21 "2011-06-07T13:31:56Z")
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