# Fallout from A314b + Instant Gentleman..? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [June 11, 2015, 7:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/fallout-from-a314b-instant-gentleman/64486 "2015-06-11T19:59:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![ScentHound](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/scenthound/32/1840_2.png) [@ScentHound](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ScentHound)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2015, 7:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/fallout-from-a314b-instant-gentleman/64486/1 "2015-06-11T19:59:14Z")
Met this girl (let me call her TallBabe) first time while I was dowsed in MX297. She was into me and I was into her but I was with her best friend so… 6 months pass by and we meet again through a mutual acquaintance and that night i was wearing 3 sprays A314b + 3 sprays MX353, WILD night!! We kissed, Tallbabe tells me she’s a virgin (at 22) and I assured her that I was one too 😉 A week pass and she and her girlfriend (who was out with us on the A314b/MX353 night) track me down on Facebook and adds me. We talk and I get TallBabe’s phone number. My buddy hooks up with her friend (he was also partying with us all on that infamous night) and HE sets up a double date.. By now I had read up on my fallout-classics and noticed MonesMadeMeDoIt mentioning how A314b + IG is a possible fallout mix in its own right. So I wore this mix (1+1 spray) and TallBabe is quickly kissing me again and sitting in my lap, we dance close the whole night. Next week I ask her to come to my place so I can cook for her.. we share a nice bottle of Cava and.. well, candlelight.. [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/).. We’re not virgins anymore. We then spent the next 4 days together, non-stop. A very, very close and amazing time. I had A314b + IG on every day except one day where I wore 25mcg A1+25mcg P83+1 spray A314b but frankly, it didn’t seem as cuddly and ‘starry-eyed’ in its effect as the first mix of A314b+IG. Now, what I would like feedback on is this: My buddy, who’s seeing TallBabe’s girlfriend suddenly tells me that TallBabe has begun to text these pretty crazy, jealous texts to her girlfriend.. stuff like ‘back off from ScentHound’.. and ‘don’t ask him to help you move!’ This girl is a goddamn 10! I mean, she can’t go anywhere without having EVERYBODY turn their head to look at her. She is ridiculously hot. Just setting the stage here. I know that me seducing her and becoming her ‘first’ may explain some (all?) of the jealousy but I can’t help wonder if this could be the first inkling of fallout manifesting? Counting the first night where I wore 3 sprays each of A134b + MX353 she has been subjected to A314b on 6 separate occasions. Thoughts? ---
**Author:** ![lone\_star](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lone_star/32/1543_2.png) [@lone\_star](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/lone_star)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2015, 8:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/fallout-from-a314b-instant-gentleman/64486/2 "2015-06-11T20:17:43Z")
All of that constant exposure to the very powerful mix obviously has her very attached to you. Especially since you took her V-card, my guess is she will eventually become very clingy and over protective. Jealousy this early isn’t the best sign. Watch out ---
**Author:** ![ScentHound](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/scenthound/32/1840_2.png) [@ScentHound](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ScentHound)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2015, 8:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/fallout-from-a314b-instant-gentleman/64486/3 "2015-06-11T20:34:32Z")
> [@lone\_star](#): > > All of that constant exposure to the very powerful mix obviously has her very attached to you. Especially since you took her V-card, my guess is she will eventually become very clingy and over protective. Jealousy this early isn’t the best sign. Watch out Yeah, I don’t have too much experience with this kind of jealous.. I wonder if there’s another [pheromone](https://a314.com/shop/) signature that’s more appropriate to switch over to somewhere down the line.. How deep into fallout should a girl get before it ‘sticks’? ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2015, 9:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/fallout-from-a314b-instant-gentleman/64486/4 "2015-06-11T21:54:14Z")
A314/MX353 is a very immediate, hard-hitter for attraction in the right environments. esp on a mature guy. Its not something I’d use to build a relationship on but in the right environment - like wild/happy nights-out, its a killer - and you have the fallout properties of A314 to back it-up, and that can be used more widely with other steering. I’m not so convinced about A314/IG though, except on very young guys - or around very young women who are not quite-up to the overall maturity of A314. However at 22, it is possible her relative immaturity means she’s still tuned-in to more youthful signatures. Whilst fallout is possible, you don’t seem to have the regular exposure/withdrawal cycles in place that help it develop and are a critical part of fallout - so I’d also hazzard a guess that she is pretty well into you with or without the mones but the mones themselves have helped you get things hot between you. ---
**Author:** ![ScentHound](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/scenthound/32/1840_2.png) [@ScentHound](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ScentHound)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2015, 10:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/fallout-from-a314b-instant-gentleman/64486/5 "2015-06-11T22:00:16Z")
> [@mobocaster](#): > > A314/MX353 is a very immediate, hard-hitter for attraction in the right environments. esp on a mature guy. Its not something I’d use to build a relationship on but in the right environment - like wild/happy nights-out, its a killer - and you have the fallout properties of A314 to back it-up, and that can be used more widely with other steering. > > I’m not so convinced about A314/IG though, except on very young guys - or around very young women who are not quite-up to the overall maturity of A314. However at 22, it is possible her relative immaturity means she’s still tuned-in to more youthful signatures. > > Whilst fallout is possible, you don’t seem to have the regular exposure/withdrawal cycles in place that help it develop and are a critical part of fallout - so I’d also hazzard a guess that she is pretty well into you with or without the mones but the mones themselves have helped you get things hot between you. Yes, it’s been on average about a week between each exposure, except for the four day honeymoon where she only left my side for a few hours on two occasions. So do you think I should just keep it up with the 314/IG combo (until I run out of 314.. which will be in another 3-4 ‘exposures’, my togo is running on fumes soon!) or should I fade over to something else? Oh, forgot to mention: I look at least 10 years younger than my age.. frequently, very young women guess my age to be 25-28 due to my youthful appearance.. 😮 (And today she said outright that I smelled sooooo good.. that I always smell really good… she’s been saying over and over again that ‘there’s just _something_ about you!’… and I keep thinking ‘yes, dear.. it’s called PHEROMONES!’) ---
**Author:** ![lone\_star](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lone_star/32/1543_2.png) [@lone\_star](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/lone_star)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2015, 10:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/fallout-from-a314b-instant-gentleman/64486/6 "2015-06-11T22:08:33Z")
I wonder how would she react if you came clean and admitted to wearing pheromones. That would be fun ---
**Author:** ![ScentHound](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/scenthound/32/1840_2.png) [@ScentHound](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ScentHound)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2015, 10:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/fallout-from-a314b-instant-gentleman/64486/7 "2015-06-11T22:11:10Z")
> [@lone\_star](#): > > I wonder how would she react if you came clean and admitted to wearing pheromones. That would be fun Meh, probably not. She’s not my first dime, though. Not by a long shot. Only the first one I’ve landed using pheromones. ---
**Author:** ![GorchFock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/90ced4/32.png) [@GorchFock](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/GorchFock)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2015, 9:36am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/fallout-from-a314b-instant-gentleman/64486/8 "2015-06-15T09:36:38Z")
Exactly 1 spray of A314b and 1 or just about half a spray of IG is serious attraction stuff. I’ve tested that mix around my partner after MMDI speculated about it’s fallout properties. He has spent alot of time and thought about that topic. My GF is mesmerized everytime I put on those sprays, I do it mostly on weekends when there is the chance to spend some quality time together. No other mones used around her during everyday life. ---
**Author:** ![ScentHound](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/scenthound/32/1840_2.png) [@ScentHound](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ScentHound)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2015, 11:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/fallout-from-a314b-instant-gentleman/64486/9 "2015-06-15T23:14:03Z")
UPDATE: Fallout or no fallout, this girl is completely head over heels in love with me. She literally thinks I’m the greatest thing since sliced bread (which I AM, incidentally!) She’s my girlfriend now, I’m more than fine with that so now I’m really just waiting for AD’s research team to release some sweet, sweet A314 again since I’m down to my last 3-4 molecules in the togo… Argh. I’m thinking about trying a fallout stand-in mix of [MX297](https://a314.com/product/mx297/) + A1 until the A314 drought ends… Anyone have any experience with this particular combo? ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2015, 6:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/fallout-from-a314b-instant-gentleman/64486/10 "2015-06-16T18:05:21Z")
[MX297](https://a314.com/product/mx297/) is the very anthesis of fallout IME. You can get magnificent social engagement on an ongoing single-exposure basis but you are back to square one with the subject every time you expose them and you need to be working it just as hard the each time to get similar effects. Whilst it is possible you will still get the crushy/fallout effects from A1 alongside MX297, I’d be more concerned that the mix is far too high on the comfort/social side - “the very bestest, most fun friend in the whole wide world!” if you will. Stick some TUTH or IJ in it to keep an edge/bit of tension going. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![ScentHound](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/scenthound/32/1840_2.png) [@ScentHound](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ScentHound)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2015, 9:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/fallout-from-a314b-instant-gentleman/64486/11 "2015-06-16T21:10:09Z")
> [@mobocaster](#): > > MX297 is the very anthesis of fallout IME. You can get magnificent social engagement on an ongoing single-exposure basis but you are back to square one with the subject every time you expose them and you need to be working it just as hard the each time to get similar effects. > > Whilst it is possible you will still get the crushy/fallout effects from A1 alongside MX297, I’d be more concerned that the mix is far too high on the comfort/social side - “the very bestest, most fun friend in the whole wide world!” if you will. > > Stick some TUTH or IJ in it to keep an edge/bit of tension going. 🙂 OK, yes I get what you’re saying, [MX297](https://a314.com/product/mx297/) alone has never produced any fallouty effects for me.. I just read about K-train stating he once produced a massive fallout in one session using MX297, A1 and another MX (330?). I figured it might be worth a stab. Mobo, what’s your opinion on using MX353 with A1 then? I have noticed on a few occasions that MX353 solo has left some type of imprint on at least some people.. and it certainly has status as well as none.. Or am I just reaching here? EDIT: I actually also have half a togo of P83. Do you think A1+P83 together is capable of producing fallout? ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2015, 6:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/fallout-from-a314b-instant-gentleman/64486/12 "2015-06-22T18:02:32Z")
> [@ScentHound](#): > > Mobo, what’s your opinion on using MX353 with A1 then? I have noticed on a few occasions that MX353 solo has left some type of imprint on at least some people.. and it certainly has status as well as none.. > > Or am I just reaching here? > > EDIT: I actually also have half a togo of P83. Do you think A1+P83 together is capable of producing fallout? MX353/A1 is an interesting idea - I would be more inclined to thibk you would be using A1 as a comfort phero, not fallout here. MX353 is immediate/spur-of the moment sexuality, not that suited to long-term bonding - although it can be used to shake-up fallout mixes on a short-term basis. A1/[P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/), no - They can be used together but any fallout is all from the A1. What the P83 does here is disinhibit and that can help a fallout express themselves quicker, which is still a very useful property. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Ekscentra\_temp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e480ec/32.png) [@Ekscentra\_temp](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Ekscentra_temp)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2015, 6:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/fallout-from-a314b-instant-gentleman/64486/13 "2015-06-22T18:45:41Z")
> [@mobocaster](#): > > MX353/A1 is an interesting idea - I would be more inclined to thibk you would be using A1 as a comfort phero, not fallout here. MX353 is immediate/spur-of the moment sexuality, not that suited to long-term bonding - although it can be used to shake-up fallout mixes on a short-term basis. > > A1/P83, no - They can be used together but any fallout is all from the A1. What the P83 does here is disinhibit and that can help a fallout express themselves quicker, which is still a very useful property. 🙂 I’d tend to think adding A1 to MX353 is just too much of a good thing. As far as we can tell without Androtics actually revealing the components, MX353 seems to contain a good dose of P96. That on its own is more than enough in the bonding department. I don’t think MX353 needs anything added to it - perhaps a single drop of A314 to help ground the mix? ScentHound, if you do intend to test MX353 with A1, I’d suggest keeping the dose of A1 on the low end (though I’d suggest this regardless.) 5mcg seems to be mobo’s preferred dose (last I checked,) and I’d have to concur here. You could probably go even lower - microdosing A1 may have its own benefits. ---
**Author:** ![ScentHound](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/scenthound/32/1840_2.png) [@ScentHound](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ScentHound)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2015, 7:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/fallout-from-a314b-instant-gentleman/64486/14 "2015-06-22T19:34:51Z")
Mobo, Ekscentra, thanks for the feedback.. Things are going extremely well with this girl. I have decided to use up the last of my A314b+IG on her and wait for the Nude Alpha I ordered. Then I’ll combine NA with A1 and hopefully see her slip even further under my spell, hehe 😉 (I really didn’t feel like risking her maybe falling out of fallout (if that makes sense) while I was waiting on a new batch of A314 EVENTUALLY turning up again.) A shame though, as I was going to get the oil version since I’m convinced it’s an amazing fallout inducer even on its own.. I tested a combo of 1 spray TUTH + 1 spray 12,5 mcg TAC on her.. she voluntarily and on her own initiative confessed that my ‘cologne’ was the best I ever had worn around her and that I should never wear anything else! In bed she was definitely more relaxed and ‘moist’, very vocal this time too. The next day I doubled the dosage but she seemed slightly more on edge, didn’t comment on the cologne at all and was not as relaxed in bed.. pretty clear signs that the ideal dose for her is 1 spray of each and no more.. ---
**Author:** ![Slogan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ba8739/32.png) [@Slogan](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Slogan)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2015, 6:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/fallout-from-a314b-instant-gentleman/64486/15 "2015-07-12T18:19:34Z")
Woah, this was exactly the thread I was looking for. I guess we’re a bit on the same page ScentHound: I’m 43 but could easily go for 33 😃 Met a girl a few months back (I call her Ms Kapow in my journal)…almost same thing, instant whammy loveydovey sh\*t and yup…she turned out to be 25. Sad thing is though, she broke up with me after two months. Was going too fast etc etc, complicated story. She has been back briefly on a couple of occasions…if only I had discovered mones back then… I’ll be back checking this topic and posting a ‘plz advice’ thread myself on this matter…so I’ll be ready with my current arsenal when she comes back around. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2015, 4:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/fallout-from-a314b-instant-gentleman/64486/16 "2015-07-13T16:10:49Z")
> [@Slogan](#): > > Woah, this was exactly the thread I was looking for. You should do a bit more searching - there are several excellent fallout threads here. And even in the absence of A314, you should also have a look at the IH/[P74](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p74/) combination - Which is a very viable fallout combo even without A314 - And for younger women, mature status products like A314 can be a bit hit or miss. 25 is about the age where I’d expect she might be **just beginning** to mature into finding an A314-based signature attractive (but you do get exceptions). So unless she’s shown a prior liking for the mature status products, I’d be inclined to start with something that runs less of a risk of coming-off like her favourite uncle - with a hardon! ---
**Author:** ![kumarkish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/a6a055/32.png) [@kumarkish](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/kumarkish)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2015, 5:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/fallout-from-a314b-instant-gentleman/64486/17 "2015-07-13T17:02:42Z")
hey want to know the content os a314 how it works on indian and asian ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2015, 7:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/fallout-from-a314b-instant-gentleman/64486/18 "2015-07-13T19:48:13Z")
> [@kumarkish](#): > > hey want to know the content os a314 how it works on indian and asian Please keep this for one or other of your intro threads. Pitching-up at random on unrelated threads is not helpful to anyone, nor is asking about the content of A314 TBH. ---
**Author:** ![Ekscentra\_temp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e480ec/32.png) [@Ekscentra\_temp](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Ekscentra_temp)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2015, 8:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/fallout-from-a314b-instant-gentleman/64486/19 "2015-07-14T20:49:43Z")
> [@mobocaster](#): > > You should do a bit more searching - there are several excellent fallout threads here. > > And even in the absence of A314, you should also have a look at the IH/P74 combination - Which is a very viable fallout combo even without A314 - And for younger women, mature status products like A314 can be a bit hit or miss. 25 is about the age where I’d expect she might be **just beginning** to mature into finding an A314-based signature attractive (but you do get exceptions). So unless she’s shown a prior liking for the mature status products, I’d be inclined to start with something that runs less of a risk of coming-off like her favourite uncle - with a hardon! Without giving too much away, another vendor is selling what I strongly believe to be P90. Combining this with A314 Rev32 results in one being able to use A314 around 18-year olds (and potentially younger) with ease. Adding [P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/) further lowers the age range. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2015, 10:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/fallout-from-a314b-instant-gentleman/64486/20 "2015-07-14T22:16:40Z")
> [@'Ekscentra \[temp](#): > > ;542226’]Without giving too much away, another vendor is selling what I strongly believe to be P90. Combining this with A314 Rev32 results in one being able to use A314 around 18-year olds (and potentially younger) with ease. Adding P74 further lowers the age range. Maybe that’s why I never got-on very well with the A314-P90 Edition? A314-SBE with or without [P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/) and TUTH brought the age bar down alarmingly enough for me! [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/fallout-from-a314b-instant-gentleman/64486.md?page=2)