# Fallout with coworker **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [December 29, 2016, 3:35am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/fallout-with-coworker/66808 "2016-12-29T03:35:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![diazman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/2acd7d/32.png) [@diazman](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diazman)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2016, 3:35am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/fallout-with-coworker/66808/1 "2016-12-29T03:35:37Z")
Ok, so first of all we are not allowed to date at work AT ALL! Nevertheless we have been out a couple of times, there has been lots of kissing and making out sessions, even at work (in the camera’s blindspots, LOL) but then a couple of days later, she pulls back being afraid to lose her job. The third time she mentioned this I told her I won’t insist anymore. But that I had bought a x-mas gift for her and was still going to give it to her, but don’t want her to think this has anything to do with us, just something I thought she would enjoy and wanted her to have it regardless. The gift had a huge sentimental meaning, which I knew nothing about until I gave it to her and she told me why it was so special. After I gave her the gift she hugged me and kissed me on the cheek, she had just gotten in to work and it was my time to leave, right before I left, she asked me to take her again to the cigar club where I am a member, I did not repply to this and as I was about to leave she asked me to wait so she can give me a hug, I mumbled, you already gave me one, she came and gave me a hug, kissed me 5 or 6 times on the neck, then twice on the cheek, each time getting closer to my lips and then pulled away, holding my hands and looking at me as in “what are you waiting to kiss me”, I just said, ok then, glad you liked your gift, have a good night, and left. (I was wearing 2 drops of A314 on the wrist,2 drops of honesty oil on my forearm, 2 drops of P96 on the inside of my elbows and 3 shots of IS on my neck)\_(am I overdoing it with so much stuff at once?) When I got home I texted her that I don’t think its a good idea to take her to the cigar club since I said I was not going to insist anymore and I like to keep my word, since all a man truly has its his word. She replied with a tear emoji and said to please take her, that she promises she wont bother me. I replied that its clear to me that she can’t handle a relationship right now and I promised I wouldn’t “bother” her anymore. She said I have never “bothered” her, only that her life is complicated right now and not easy to explain. I ended it by telling her that me insisting while she couldn’t, made me feel like I was bothering her and I don’t like to bother anyone. Added that I never had the need to beg anyone. Another coworker tells me that when she sees that I’m the one coming in to work, she goes to the restroom and makes sure she looks sharp, puts on lotion, perfume and chews gum. I’ve been given her the “strictly business” treatment after I started using the above recipe. Only talk to her about work related stuff and in a very respectful manner. But with the above mix, she would find a way to ask me something, even answering her own question at times, finds an excuse to sit next or behind me, sometimes graces her hand on my back when saying goodbye in front of other coworkers. A little background on her: her ex was physically abusive of her, at her former place of employment she was sexually harassed to the point she had to take her boss to court (her boss had 4 other lawsuits for the same). Only family she has in the US is her teenage son. She’s in her late 20’s. She has been to therapy for depression after all previously mentioned. I had sensed she has trust issues towards men and a coworker confirmed it to be true. She told her most of what she’s been thru. I truly care about her and would like to know how and what I could use to get her to that place where she trusts me and knows I’m for real. At work I’m the “go to” guy for problem solving, advice (even personal advice), etc. I’m also the blunt to the point guy that doesn’t take anything from anyone and if you want to know what I’m thinking, just ask, even if you’re my boss. Also the guy that would get himself in trouble for sticking up for someone else on a matter that has nothing to do with me. And this was all before even using any pheros. Now, this is the list of stuff I have bought: -A314 oil Rev32 -Honesty Oil -P96 Oil -[P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/) to go 50mcg/spray -IS regular strength (large bottle) -TUTH to go -P121 to go -P102 to go 1- What combinations can I whip up with this? 2- When should I use what? 3- What’s the ballpark before I see any real results? 4- Should I be less cold with her? Or is this working in my favor? Thanks in advanced for all the help. Look forward to hearing what you guys have to say on the subject. Oh btw, I’m about to turn 40. ---
**Author:** ![Jdub](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jdub/32/1399_2.png) [@Jdub](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jdub)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2016, 5:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/fallout-with-coworker/66808/2 "2016-12-29T05:07:05Z")
Honestly, it sounds like the mix you wore is headed in the direction you want to go and that you’re already seeing the results you want building up. For me, I found that it seems p96 is an ultimate fallout must have and I think that’s why you’re getting such good results. You asked if the mix you wore was too much.. I don’t think so. Especially the way you have it spread out on application points so you don’t have so much hitting straight in the person’s face. I’d say keep going with the mix you wore but maybe just tweak the ratios and dosages until it’s perfect for your body’s chemistry. It always makes me happy to hear stories of good guys coming into a broken hearted woman’s life that can help alleviate the pain from her past. I think you’ve already got this one in the bag (based on your post). Lastly, I don’t think it’s a bad thing to back off as you have done. It would be very bad for her to get head over heels for you, make a mistake, and then lose her job. But if you really want this one, I guess you’ve got to find a way to go for it. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2016, 6:18am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/fallout-with-coworker/66808/3 "2016-12-29T06:18:40Z")
A314/IH/IS/P96 - that’s a pretty excellent fallout base right there and if she’s responding, don’t mess with it The only thing I would add to that is a sexual like TUTH around the times she can do something about it. Enjoy! ---
**Author:** ![diazman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/2acd7d/32.png) [@diazman](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diazman)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2016, 7:13am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/fallout-with-coworker/66808/4 "2016-12-29T07:13:26Z")
Thanks for the quick response guys. Sounds like I’m on the right track then. Any advice moving forward with her? Should I ease up the cold treatment or keep it up? Also, would [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) help at all here? ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2016, 11:05am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/fallout-with-coworker/66808/5 "2016-12-29T11:05:59Z")
[P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) is good for getting a developed fallout into the open and useful for getting physical but it looks like you don’t need much help to get over that hump with her Try it with the TUTH as a secondary to the mix but otherwise leave it out at work and save it for where you think there is a good chance of getting physical. ---
**Author:** ![Jdub](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jdub/32/1399_2.png) [@Jdub](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jdub)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2016, 12:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/fallout-with-coworker/66808/6 "2016-12-29T12:03:07Z")
> [@diazman](#): > > Any advice moving forward with her? > Should I ease up the cold treatment or keep it up? I’d say play it by ear. But as for temperature, I think lukewarm would suit you better. ---
**Author:** ![somechick03862](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@somechick03862](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/somechick03862)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2016, 3:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/fallout-with-coworker/66808/7 "2016-12-29T15:08:15Z")
> [@Jdub](#): > > I’d say play it by ear. But as for temperature, I think lukewarm would suit you better. Well, I am a woman who has had abusive ex’s and trust issues, so I am going to second the lukewarm idea. If you are too cold, she may think there is something wrong with her. I cannot tell you how many times I had that thought when I had someone in my life who went cold on me. He eventually told me that it was because I kept thinking ‘bad thoughts’ about him. I wasn’t trusting him enough, and I pushed him away. If she has the past you say she has, and I believe she does, then being too cold and making her feel there is something wrong with her, can ruin your chances. I think your mix sounds like a good solid mix, and if you wear it around her, raise the temperature a little and see where it goes. You say you care and you sound like a good guy. Those aren’t always easy to find! ---
**Author:** ![diazman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/2acd7d/32.png) [@diazman](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diazman)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2016, 4:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/fallout-with-coworker/66808/8 "2016-12-29T16:24:08Z")
Thank you all for the solid advice.