# Favorite putative? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [December 2, 2010, 4:16am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/favorite-putative/43681 "2010-12-02T04:16:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![mirror\_sound](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mirror_sound/32/1884_2.png) [@mirror\_sound](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mirror_sound)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2011, 4:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/favorite-putative/43681/21 "2011-01-25T16:08:40Z")
P83 for me is a social lubricant. I tend to talk more and people are open to expressing there deep seeded notions in cases where they would normally hold their tongue. For me P83 is one of the best ice breakers. Is it a sexual product? not intently or directly. P83 is merely a servant IME and needs something to follow and take order from. ah thanks for your insight on the putative! My god is the world of pheromones complex. coupled with other information, Putatives are very unique and can have many mixed results depending on which you use with. But thats what makes it fun. I should stop asking questions. I shouldnt ruin my chance to explore this field on my own. Im a long way from using Putatives But thanks for the help guys! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2011, 9:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/favorite-putative/43681/22 "2011-01-25T21:17:45Z")
> [@P51Mustang](#): > > Coming from someone who uses MX301, made from putatives, and requests PS, A2, UF, WHICH ARE MADE FROM PUTATIVES When did I say I don’t USE putatives. I said it is USEFUL, but by no means ABSOLUTELY necessary. In fact, for me - for others mileage varies - Ammo + IS + IH are all I need, and everything else is a bonus. I already earn respect and project high status, although it might not happen ASAP with like A314… You need to chill… Using mones everyday is affecting your limbic system or soemthing. I hope it doesn’t affect your basal ganglia and you get some kind of chorea or movement abnormalities either 🙄 ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2011, 10:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/favorite-putative/43681/23 "2011-01-25T22:00:36Z")
> [@CoolKat](#): > > When did I say I don’t USE putatives. I said it is USEFUL, but by no means ABSOLUTELY necessary. In fact, for me - for others mileage varies - Ammo + IS + IH are all I need, and everything else is a bonus. I already earn respect and project high status, although it might not happen ASAP with like A314… > You need to chill… Using mones everyday is affecting your limbic system or soemthing. I hope it doesn’t affect your basal ganglia and you get some kind of chorea or movement abnormalities either 🙄 I don’t use mones everyday you douche. And regardless its same with pheromones, they’re not neccesary. Look at you using your big medical terms. Are you that small of a man that you have to try and sound smart. I call your bullshit out and you’re saying that its affecting how i’ll have involuntary movements. Trying to sound smart but being actually stupid, that is AWESOME. I hope you don’t kill someone during your residency. Dick. ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2011, 10:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/favorite-putative/43681/24 "2011-01-25T22:07:51Z")
Back to the ignore list you go. ---
**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2011, 10:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/favorite-putative/43681/25 "2011-01-25T22:28:39Z")
like I care… lol… Good… newbies can read it and decide for themselves who is HIGHER STATUS in real life. In other words, more alpha… I already know all the good things going for me. You can say the same but DEEP INSIDE, we know who we are 😉 Who knows though… u might have gone to NYU, Cornell or Columbia in NY. ONLY you do 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![2000GT](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/2000gt/32/389_2.png) [@2000GT](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/2000GT)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2011, 12:54am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/favorite-putative/43681/26 "2011-01-26T00:54:21Z")
> [@P51Mustang](#): > > Back to the ignore list you go. Back? I never took him off mine.😛 ---
**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2011, 2:24am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/favorite-putative/43681/27 "2011-01-26T02:24:28Z")
> [@2000GT](#): > > Back? I never took him off mine.😛 Good. like i care loser that is over 30 and doesn’t even have a respectable job 🙄 ---
**Author:** ![2000GT](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/2000gt/32/389_2.png) [@2000GT](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/2000GT)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2011, 2:30am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/favorite-putative/43681/28 "2011-01-26T02:30:47Z")
> [@CoolKat](#): > > Good. like i care loser that is over 30 and doesn’t even have a respectable job 🙄 _snorts_ Yes, because I’m really going to be insulted by a person hiding behind the anonymity of the internet. 99% of the time people don’t have the balls to act that bold in person, you’re no different. ---
**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2011, 2:33am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/favorite-putative/43681/29 "2011-01-26T02:33:00Z")
I know. That is why I told P51, he could act like he is all that but DEEP INSIDE no one knows. Who knows? He could be a physician or physician in Training at Georgetown on full scholarship 😉 OR he could just be some random dude sells TV at best buy. NO ONE KNOWS 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Olfact\_Amorous](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/olfact_amorous/32/434_2.png) [@Olfact\_Amorous](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Olfact_Amorous)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2011, 2:56am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/favorite-putative/43681/30 "2011-01-26T02:56:00Z")
Coolkat has the longest E-Penis Its this long: * * * Guys dont be so harsh on CK. He just needs a very big pat on the back every once in a while. AD version of Snookie he be. Can’t be stopped. Can’t be helped. But as P51 put it, it can be ignored. ---
**Author:** ![PheroJack](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pherojack/32/527_2.png) [@PheroJack](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PheroJack)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2011, 3:01am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/favorite-putative/43681/31 "2011-01-26T03:01:04Z")
lmaoo you guys r funny ---
**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2011, 3:06am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/favorite-putative/43681/32 "2011-01-26T03:06:23Z")
> [@PheroJack](#): > > lmaoo you guys r funny it is all fun, hahahah. I can’t believe some people think the internet would stir my emotions. Even girls shouting at my face once in awhile during a cold approach dont even faze me. It only validates that women are EMOTIONALLY DRIVEN and WEAKER , lol ---
**Author:** ![Olfact\_Amorous](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/olfact_amorous/32/434_2.png) [@Olfact\_Amorous](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Olfact_Amorous)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2011, 3:36am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/favorite-putative/43681/33 "2011-01-26T03:36:55Z")
> [@CoolKat](#): > > it is all fun, hahahah. I can’t believe some people think the internet would stir my emotions. Even girls shouting at my face once in awhile during a cold approach dont even faze me. It only validates that women are EMOTIONALLY DRIVEN and WEAKER , lol Thats a negative connotation saying woman are weaker. A woman F—ing gave you life and you have the nerve to be like that. Women do things we men never have to do or deal with. To call them weaker is gravely trivial. Both sexes have their trials and it should be left like that. Not this stupid masculinity elitism coming from you. From my part I’m not even trying. You are simply deplorable and I’m making it known even if noone else agrees with me. Your writing style tells me a lot about yourself so honestly no stupid John Hopkins degree or a dime of a blond or the looks of brad pitt or the pick up skills of all the masters combined can save you from your rotten self. I think P51 has finally turned me now. The forum has been lackluster lately. I suppose you will have to do. ---
**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2011, 3:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/favorite-putative/43681/34 "2011-01-26T03:59:07Z")
> [@Olfact\_Amorous](#): > > Thats a negative connotation saying woman are weaker. A woman F—ing gave you life and you have the nerve to be like that. Women do things we men never have to do or deal with. To call them weaker is gravely trivial. Both sexes have their trials and it should be left like that. Not this stupid masculinity elitism coming from you. From my part I’m not even trying. You are simply deplorable and I’m making it known even if noone else agrees with me. Your writing style tells me a lot about yourself so honestly no stupid John Hopkins degree or a dime of a blond or the looks of brad pitt or the pick up skills of all the masters combined can save you from your rotten self. > > I think P51 has finally turned me now. The forum has been lackluster lately. I suppose you will have to do. lol… I was just throwing in a bait to see if you or P51 would bite. Obviously, someone did. 😛 I try not to talk crap about anyone here or anywhere, but some people obviously aren’t liek that. Also, Some people even use EXPLICIT languages in this forum, where even HIGH SCHOOLers readily visit, to take a crack at me. Last 50 threads or so, for whatever reason, some people just try to talk crap and jab at me, but the funny thing is I still dont care . It is becoming so obvious one of the posters even had to point it out at the store section… If you have issues jsut PM me and tell me what tha heck your problem is; although, I would probably care less… Anyways, what I mostly care about AD or what-not is that I get solid products from them and that my mones work. Also, I like giving my tips and getting some tips from others here. Moreover, I like seeing how some guys talk about success and improvements. These stories motivate me to be even better. I have been there; having no confidence and being seen as a loser - not even a nice guy. Somehow, I improved and am getting better. Yea, but does the past even matter? One of the major issues that prevent people from advancing spiritually is NOT BEING ABLE TO LET GO. Just forget everything and help out newbies. ---
**Author:** ![thegentleman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/thegentleman/32/1770_2.png) [@thegentleman](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/thegentleman)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2011, 4:35am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/favorite-putative/43681/35 "2011-01-26T04:35:51Z")
> [@CoolKat](#): > > Good. like i care loser that is over 30 and doesn’t even have a respectable job 🙄 If you have a job in this economy, well if you have a job period it’s “respectable.” You can play off the comment about women and this one as “bait,” but I don’t believe it at this point. I wasted enough time as a kid and immature adult battling people on the interwebs, but it is really clear to many how insecure you truly are. I’m 44 and I work at Starbucks. I bust my ass day in and day out. I don’t need to play myself up as having a “better,” or “respectable” job. I readily admit what I do, and will readily admit my biggest weaknesses in life. But what I see from you day in and day out is a need to show off your trophies, and once again as someone has already pointed out, this being the internet it can be all true, or all lies. Either way I don’t care about your successes, your losses, your battles with other members here. But I will point out idiocy when I see it. And it reared its ugly head in this post and the one about women being weaker. ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2011, 6:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/favorite-putative/43681/36 "2011-01-26T06:08:18Z")
> [@CoolKat](#): > > lol… > I was just throwing in a bait to see if you or P51 would bite. Obviously, someone did. 😛 I try not to talk crap about anyone here or anywhere, but some people obviously aren’t liek that. > Also, Some people even use EXPLICIT languages in this forum, where even HIGH SCHOOLers readily visit, to take a crack at me. > Last 50 threads or so, for whatever reason, some people just try to talk crap and jab at me, but the funny thing is I still dont care . > It is becoming so obvious one of the posters even had to point it out at the store section… > If you have issues jsut PM me and tell me what tha heck your problem is; although, I would probably care less… > > Anyways, what I mostly care about AD or what-not is that I get solid products from them and that my mones work. Also, I like giving my tips and getting some tips from others here. Moreover, I like seeing how some guys talk about success and improvements. These stories motivate me to be even better. I have been there; having no confidence and being seen as a loser - not even a nice guy. Somehow, I improved and am getting better. Yea, but does the past even matter? > > One of the major issues that prevent people from advancing spiritually is NOT BEING ABLE TO LET GO. Just forget everything and help out newbies. Except you hurt more than you help with your coined responses. I go at you because people like you annoy me, in real life or online. Many people here have asked and told me to let it go and leave things in peace. I can’t, whether or not it gets me banned from here or warned, I will call you out on your BS and antics whenever I can. You as much as anyone says loves to put people down, whether it be your high class education or high values and status that you seem to think you’re better that everyone else, you’re the one that people look at and just scream “inadequate”. You know you may be a good guy, I don’t know, maybe you just need reaffirmation everytime that you’re high status but blasting it on the forum doesn’t help your cause much. GT, OA, TG, just to name a few are good frigging people. I don’t care if they mop floors for a living. Your job, education, status doesn’t define who you are as a person. I’m not saying this cause they agree with me, but you can tell just the way they are that they are people who live life and are kind to people they meet. They treat everyone as HUMAN BEINGS. It goes for a lot of the people here, for you, I get that you think that they are less of people just by the way you talk. That annoys the crap out of me. I manage people’s money that are probably way more educated and wealthier than you, and they are the most kindest and humble people I’ve met on the face of the earth. You know why I mention that, because they don’t let those attributes define them, they don’t go blasting their education or their bank account, they don’t go blasting their connections, they go and treat everyone, from the bus drivers, to their nanny’s with ultimate respect. I’ve seen this first hand and you, some idiot who tries to belittle people “just to get a reaction” is quite fucking pathetic. And yeah you’re right, I’m using profanity, because hell, I’m a fucking new yorker and we say what’s on our minds and don’t have qualms about who we say it to. I’m proud of who I am and what I do because I have nothing to prove to anyone. Also, maybe women yell at you, cause you’re a fucking creeper, it just shows how your masculinity is challenge and you mention they are the weaker gender, utter bullshit. Women are some of the strongest people I know, they have to deal with so much more crap than we do, and you just saying that just makes me wanna knock your fucking teeth out to show you a damn lesson. Yeah you’re right, this is a forum, this is the internet. But, I gahhh runnn teee you, if you ever pulled this shit IRL, you’d learn the lesson the hard way, consider yourself lucky. ---
**Author:** ![mirror\_sound](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mirror_sound/32/1884_2.png) [@mirror\_sound](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mirror_sound)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2011, 6:44am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/favorite-putative/43681/37 "2011-01-26T06:44:15Z")
o\_o lol we all have different perspectives so its all good. although i somwhat share views with CK. Having pheros is a great edge but we shouldnt get too consumed into this world. If you feel naked without your pheros. you know you depend on it to much. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Fedora](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dr.fedora/32/1193_2.png) [@Dr.Fedora](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Dr.Fedora)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2011, 7:42am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/favorite-putative/43681/38 "2011-01-26T07:42:53Z")
“Your job, education, status doesn’t define who you are as a person.” Totally agree. I am not impressed by money, titles, expensive posessions, social status, or degrees; I don’t find them to be a factor in determining an individual’s worth. The most impressive thing to me is a person’s spirit. back on topic. The only two Putatives I have used are [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) and P79. P79 seemed to make me emotional. I added bergamot oil to my P83 and it puts me in a better mood, while increasing the chances of physical affection. Double Rainbow, all the way. ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2011, 7:52am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/favorite-putative/43681/39 "2011-01-26T07:52:06Z")
> [@Dr.Fedora](#): > > “Your job, education, status doesn’t define who you are as a person.” > > Totally agree. I am not impressed by money, titles, expensive posessions, social status, or degrees; I don’t find them to be a factor in determining an individual’s worth. The most impressive thing to me is a person’s spirit. > > back on topic. The only two Putatives I have used are P83 and P79. P79 seemed to make me emotional. I added bergamot oil to my P83 and it puts me in a better mood, while increasing the chances of physical affection. Double Rainbow, all the way. [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) in oil, do you use higher concentrations?? What mcg do you typically use with oil vs spray? ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Fedora](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dr.fedora/32/1193_2.png) [@Dr.Fedora](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Dr.Fedora)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2011, 8:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/favorite-putative/43681/40 "2011-01-26T08:02:55Z")
> [@P51Mustang](#): > > P83 in oil, do you use higher concentrations?? > > What mcg do you typically use with oil vs spray? I use the 15mcg spray version of p83. I added eight drops of bergamot oil (Bergaptene free, so its safe on the skin) to the bottle to add an Aromatherapy quality to the self-effects. Bergamot is a natural anti-depressant and smells like Earl Grey Tea. It has a slight [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) quality to it. I’ve never actually OD’d from P83. I’ve used up to 4 sprays and noticed no change in my social environment from using only one. [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/favorite-putative/43681.md?page=1) [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/favorite-putative/43681.md?page=3)