# ff21 mx350 pseudojournal **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [November 8, 2009, 6:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ff21-mx350-pseudojournal/33921 "2009-11-08T18:57:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![jayarea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/48db29/32.png) [@jayarea](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jayarea)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2009, 6:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ff21-mx350-pseudojournal/33921/1 "2009-11-08T18:57:06Z")
my love for mx350 goes far back to when it wasn’t numbered so high and had a different scent. these new scents have proven to be trying but i’m determined to like and use at least this product, if not others. and that, unfortunately, is the hard part. ☹ .5s mx350 front neck just a little half spray to catch the scent and do some light testing while shopping. 2 min after app the familiar scent of ff21 came rolling in. i termed it “like a fine soap,” which is important to differentiate from my terming of ff22 as “like straight up laundry detergent.” can’t stand this one either, though it’s not as bad as ff22. it’s been an hour after app and i have a slight headache from the scent. it’s different in that it doesn’t repulse me like ff22 does; rather, i think it’s just too strong. this was only at .5s too. i can’t begin to imagine 1-3s. (author’s note) just paused typing to go scrub it off with a towel since i can’t shower right now. ick. i have a heavy day of hw to do and can’t focus with that scent banging on my head. decent results for how dead of a shopping day it was. one sales clerk came up to me to tell me about the specials and might have caught some of the mix, and when she opened a fitting room for me she was pretty friendly. stood behind a mom with a stroller and as she turned to navigate her stroller and leave, she was very friendly to me. i’ll give this another go with spraying it in my hair or on my hands or something, somewhere not near my nose. hopefully that might help. also, no matter what, it deserves a go or two with sarah to see if it gets the same results. ---
**Author:** ![jayarea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/48db29/32.png) [@jayarea](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jayarea)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2009, 7:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ff21-mx350-pseudojournal/33921/2 "2009-11-09T19:18:48Z")
after yesterday’s initial app, i spent the rest of day hanging out with the initial scent and i feel that i should include some clarifications so that my views get interpreted correctly. 1. primarily, while i may bitch and moan about these new scents, it’s not a gripe _against_ the scents that have been chosen. i’m sure the gang over at AD chose these scents wisely, and i remember a post from michael about them. i’m not saying these guys just picked the first three scents that fell off a truck. rather, this is my outlet to express the feelings of differences. for those of you who have not been able to experience the discontinued game scent, these are (and as always, in my opinion) drastically different scents. change is never easy. it’s as if your favorite drink was orange juice, and then suddenly you couldn’t have it anymore but you were offered other tasty and healthy drinks such as milk and apple juice. when you read through my clutter, that’s pretty much the gist of it. oh, ff21 smells like soap and ff22 smells like laundry detergent; game never smelled like that. how will this change things? etc. 2. in terms of ff21, the scent isn’t too bad. after about 4 hours, it smoothed out into something nice. i just think the initial blast is too strong. 3. ff22 mixed with ammo is my only real complaint. ff22 by itself is great. the addition of ammo changes the scent and makes it not pleasant to my nose. however, i don’t want this to discourage anyone from trying it out, especially new users wanting to get into ammo. ammo is a great product and its benefits outweigh any negatives. these are simply my reviews of old products with new scents, and if they should be kept to my journal or done through pm, i can do that. 4. the most important thing to keep in mind besides point #1 is that everyone’s nose is different. this is the reason for the discontinuation of game. too many people said it was unpleasant, while only a handful of fans like myself actually liked it. it is the same with these new scents; given such an objective factor, you can’t please everyone. what smells like soap or laundry detergent to me may smell like something amazing to you, and you’ll end up liking the product. go for it, try it out. i tried another .5s this morning on the backs of my hands. mostly to get used to the scent and see how this app point would play, and also to test. unfortunately the class schedule showed a boring topic today and i guess that’s why nobody came to class. the scent wasn’t too bad. i kept my hands away from me for the most part and didn’t really catch much of it. for social settings this should be ok, but it’s getting colder and i do put my hands in my pockets more, so this probably won’t work if i’m to go out. my next app test point is the back of my head, which seems ideal for both effects and scent control. ---
**Author:** ![jayarea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/48db29/32.png) [@jayarea](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jayarea)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2009, 4:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ff21-mx350-pseudojournal/33921/3 "2009-11-12T04:27:42Z")
ff21 mx350 mixed with sweat (or body heat?) smells ABSOLUTELY foul. 1s ff21 mx350 front neck the actual ff21 scent doesn’t bother me that much anymore. i think i just tuned it out. no hits in class, and after class i went to the gym. scent was ok until warmups. immediately as i started getting warm and perhaps breaking a little sweat, a huge wave of foul stench came at me. it was like really bad body odor. i’ve never smelled this before using any other phero or any other scent, or during other workouts. instead of going too much into it, i’ll just wait and see if anybody else experiences this. 4 hours after app now, 2 hours after workout, and no bad smell. ---
**Author:** ![Snoopyace](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/snoopyace/32/1727_2.png) [@Snoopyace](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Snoopyace)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2009, 5:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ff21-mx350-pseudojournal/33921/4 "2009-11-12T17:32:35Z")
> [@jayarea](#): > > ff21 mx350 mixed with sweat (or body heat?) smells ABSOLUTELY foul. > > 1s ff21 mx350 front neck > > the actual ff21 scent doesn’t bother me that much anymore. i think i just tuned it out. > > no hits in class, and after class i went to the gym. scent was ok until warmups. immediately as i started getting warm and perhaps breaking a little sweat, a huge wave of foul stench came at me. it was like really bad body odor. > > i’ve never smelled this before using any other phero or any other scent, or during other workouts. instead of going too much into it, i’ll just wait and see if anybody else experiences this. > > 4 hours after app now, 2 hours after workout, and no bad smell. Wild. I’ve only had one experience with MX350 but maybe I’ll take it for another spin later today and try to work up a sweat. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![djandarial](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/djandarial/32/1667_2.png) [@djandarial](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/djandarial)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2009, 7:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ff21-mx350-pseudojournal/33921/5 "2009-11-12T19:49:34Z")
damn and I want this to work too,… ---
**Author:** ![jayarea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/48db29/32.png) [@jayarea](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jayarea)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2009, 9:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ff21-mx350-pseudojournal/33921/6 "2009-11-12T21:26:24Z")
definitely wild and weird, hopefully a one-time or workout-only thing. given that it’s the same as mx203, it should still work out the same. no worries there. ff21, if the scent doesn’t bother you, then all good there too. if this happens again through testing, then i know to either not use it when i’m gonna sweat, or apply it where sweat can’t affect it. ---
**Author:** ![Snoopyace](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/snoopyace/32/1727_2.png) [@Snoopyace](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Snoopyace)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2009, 1:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ff21-mx350-pseudojournal/33921/7 "2009-11-13T01:57:33Z")
> [@jayarea](#): > > definitely wild and weird, hopefully a one-time or workout-only thing. > > given that it’s the same as mx203, it should still work out the same. no worries there. ff21, if the scent doesn’t bother you, then all good there too. if this happens again through testing, then i know to either not use it when i’m gonna sweat, or apply it where sweat can’t affect it. Okay, in the name of science I put this on earlier in the day and had a very good day at work. People were very social, and I seemed to get a lot of positive attention from people. After about 3 hours I applied another spray to my neck (already had on one to the neck and one split between the wrists) and started doing a ton of jumping jacks in my office to work up a sweat. All I smelled was a VERY strong FF21 scent but other than that, nothing really bad. This weekend I’m planning on wearing MX350 around my GF so I can find a better way to work up a sweat. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![jayarea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/48db29/32.png) [@jayarea](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jayarea)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2009, 8:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ff21-mx350-pseudojournal/33921/8 "2009-11-13T08:07:15Z")
> [@Snoopyace](#): > > Okay, in the name of science I put this on earlier in the day and had a very good day at work. People were very social, and I seemed to get a lot of positive attention from people. After about 3 hours I applied another spray to my neck (already had on one to the neck and one split between the wrists) and started doing a ton of jumping jacks in my office to work up a sweat. All I smelled was a VERY strong FF21 scent but other than that, nothing really bad. This weekend I’m planning on wearing MX350 around my GF so I can find a better way to work up a sweat. 😃 it could just be a very strong ff21 scent, and the fact that a very strong ff21 may not smell pleasant to me. as noted in my journal i used .5s tonight and got a little heated (don’t know about sweat) while dancing, no bad smells initially or after getting hot. hopefully it was just a one-time bad smell. full report tomorrow in my main journal and in the 3 PJ of the ingredients i used. ---
**Author:** ![jayarea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/48db29/32.png) [@jayarea](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jayarea)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2009, 3:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ff21-mx350-pseudojournal/33921/9 "2009-11-16T03:40:01Z")
(need to keep this quick since i have to take a call) finally got the chance to use this with my gf. she loves mx203. decent response, nothing outrageous. assuming that the formula is the same, i wouldn’t expect a drastic change of effects. no complaints about scent, so all good there.