# Finally, a night on the prowl with AMMO, TAC, and 83 as my guides **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [September 6, 2013, 8:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/finally-a-night-on-the-prowl-with-ammo-tac-and-83-as-my-guides/59949 "2013-09-06T20:37:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![sharkndragon](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sharkndragon/32/426_2.png) [@sharkndragon](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sharkndragon)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2013, 8:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/finally-a-night-on-the-prowl-with-ammo-tac-and-83-as-my-guides/59949/1 "2013-09-06T20:37:26Z")
6 SEP 13 Finally, a chance to tryout a club mix… I had read in someones journal or report that AMMO , TAC , and [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) = some insane rape mix. Combining the sexual attraction with comfort and loose inhibitions… so I gave it a shot. 9pm - 3 sprays AMMO SE forearms and neck 4 sprays 5mcg each TAC to wrists and sides of the neck - 20mcg total 4 sprays 12.5mcg each p83 to my neck - 50mcg total Went to a local dive bar that had a live band playing. Local rock/heavy metal band which is usually my scene, so I knew it’d be a perfect venue to at least hangout… even if there weren’t any hits. OH but there were… I made my way to an open spot on the bar, which happened to be next to an attractive 30-something black (possibly mixed race) woman. I ordered a beer and just listened to the music casually, occasionally looking around, trying to observe any eye contact etc. The 30 something left for the bathroom, and in her absence, a 60 something stepped up, tapped me on the shoulder and asked if I wanted to go meet her daughter who’s in town visiting. She motioned her head behind her, and pointed to an attractive blond, mid 20’s. It caught me so off guard that I literally laughed at her!! Then I pointed to my left ring finger and said Thanks, sorry. She looked distraught and went back to her daughter whimpering… General respect from most guys, moving themselves out of the way as I walked around, waiting next to me or behind me in line for a drink etc. Lots of looks from other girls. Hard to tell the reactions of the girls I walked by, since I didn’t turn around to observe, but when I was hanging out by the bar and looking, there were plenty looking back. The 30 something came back to her seat next to me. While I was figuring out what to order for my 2nd drink, I asked her how much the bottles were. She smiled at me immediately and said “Well, My heineken was $3.75, why? You buying my next round?” _Now, let me make one thing clear here. I’ve not opened anyone. I’ve not even smirked at anyone, and when I asked about the bottles, I didn’t even make eye contact with her. Basically, I had Zero game going on!_ So I smiled back and said “sure, I’ve got this one”. Then she asks me if I’ll save her a dance later. “You’re not going to run out on me, are you?” We haven’t even exchanged names yet, she doesn’t even have her beer yet! So I smiled, again, and just said let’s see how the night goes… At that point I had to use the bathroom, so I excused myself and asked her to watch my drink. She gave me a sly look and said “careful with that, wouldn’t want someone to rufee you”. So I just smirked and told her I was putting my faith in her. GD. 30 seconds into a conversation and she’s teasing me about date rape!!??😮 We exchanged names and the usual formalities. Since I wasn’t out to close on any targets, just experiment and test this combo, I made it a point to mention my Wife and family, she mentioned her husband and her family. We had some nice conversations throughout the night, enjoyed the music. She continued to elude to dancing, but the right kind of music never played. She also made some rather suggestive comments, which I thought was odd considering she made it a point earlier in the night to show me she was wearing a ring… likely the TAC and 83 doing their jobs… Eventually I considered the night a success and excused myself. Thought it was better I leave first, end on a high note. I told her I’d be back there Friday nights to see the bands, and she said she hoped to see me out again. Bottom Line: I had some serious help tonight using this combo. If I had gone out without mones on, and had stood there holding up the bar for three hours like I did, I highly doubt I would’ve gotten nearly as many looks, and certainly not as much open and flirtatious talk. I seriously did Nothing to move the night along. Zero Kino, and very little “game”. If I had had a different end goal in mind, I think things could’ve gotten interesting. Maybe another night… ---
**Author:** ![1Alpha](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/1alpha/32/190_2.png) [@1Alpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/1Alpha)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2013, 10:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/finally-a-night-on-the-prowl-with-ammo-tac-and-83-as-my-guides/59949/2 "2013-09-09T10:57:07Z")
[P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/) is an Awe inspiring molecule, that with the AMMO, just hit’s it out of the Park. The TAC is like a soft velvety feel, just wants to make the gals want to snuggle into your chest. 🙂 Thanks for that report, sharkndragon. 1Alpha . ---
**Author:** ![Pagodeiro](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pagodeiro/32/1226_2.png) [@Pagodeiro](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Pagodeiro)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2013, 12:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/finally-a-night-on-the-prowl-with-ammo-tac-and-83-as-my-guides/59949/3 "2013-09-09T12:00:25Z")
Dragon .. one question .. you really applied 200 mcg’s of [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/) … ?? thanks, **Pago** ---
**Author:** ![sharkndragon](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sharkndragon/32/426_2.png) [@sharkndragon](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sharkndragon)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2013, 12:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/finally-a-night-on-the-prowl-with-ammo-tac-and-83-as-my-guides/59949/4 "2013-09-09T12:59:14Z")
Good catch Pago, nope! It was 50mcg total (4 sprays of 12.5mcg) It’s been corrected 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Pagodeiro](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pagodeiro/32/1226_2.png) [@Pagodeiro](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Pagodeiro)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2013, 1:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/finally-a-night-on-the-prowl-with-ammo-tac-and-83-as-my-guides/59949/5 "2013-09-09T13:05:54Z")
50 mcg’s i figured out to be my upper limit with P83 … otherwise i overdose and it’s a bit effects reducing … peeps become a bit standoffish .. when P83 was applied on cloth i’m able to get a bit higher withe the dosage .. Chocolatini and [Akuto](https://a314.com/product-category/scented/akuto/) works best for me with P83 ! with TAC i can go higher .. but 20mcg still work nice .. works good in the hair for me as well .. **Pago** ---
**Author:** ![sharkndragon](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sharkndragon/32/426_2.png) [@sharkndragon](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sharkndragon)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2013, 1:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/finally-a-night-on-the-prowl-with-ammo-tac-and-83-as-my-guides/59949/6 "2013-09-09T13:13:26Z")
I likely will not go any higher than 50mcg for that reason. I knew I was pushing it… Curious, what were your signs of OD on p83? This mix, and the doses, were all derived from someone elses mix that worked out very well for them. I had an opportunity at a fun night out testing, so I figured I’d give it a shot myself. I didn’t notice anyone being standoffish, just the opposite infact… The woman that I was talking to was a married kindergarten teacher that never gets out with a set of two year old twins. If anyone is to be turned off by a stranger with too strong a mone signature, I’d think it’d be this woman, but she practically opened me! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![crashbandicoot](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/crashbandicoot/32/2321_2.png) [@crashbandicoot](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/crashbandicoot)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2013, 6:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/finally-a-night-on-the-prowl-with-ammo-tac-and-83-as-my-guides/59949/7 "2013-09-10T18:32:18Z")
Wonderful results. I feel like I was at the bar with you because your post was very clear. I’ve used ammo and p83 together before and it was really good. I think I need to add shine and p74 though. Never tried TAC but have two free samples so I’ll read up on it. Crash~ ---
**Author:** ![sharkndragon](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sharkndragon/32/426_2.png) [@sharkndragon](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sharkndragon)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2013, 6:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/finally-a-night-on-the-prowl-with-ammo-tac-and-83-as-my-guides/59949/8 "2013-09-10T18:38:27Z")
I appreciate that, Crash. I’ll try to keep that kind of reporting going, assuming I have the type of hits to warrant it. My guess is “Reporting User Status” requires this type of transparent descriptions. Good thing I carry a log book with me 🙂 So far TAC seems to be nothing but Good for me and my mixes. I’m still getting a grasp on its nuances, but it’s a background-worker-bee. Soother, relaxant etc. Congruent with most others’ posts. ---
**Author:** ![1Alpha](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/1alpha/32/190_2.png) [@1Alpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/1Alpha)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2013, 7:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/finally-a-night-on-the-prowl-with-ammo-tac-and-83-as-my-guides/59949/9 "2013-09-10T19:00:09Z")
Yes, RU status… That’s what you need! 🙂 I’m not sure how/who/when RU status is being issued now a days… but, you’re on the right track. I do enjoy your ‘transparent’ posts. 1Alpha . ---
**Author:** ![sharkndragon](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sharkndragon/32/426_2.png) [@sharkndragon](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sharkndragon)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2013, 7:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/finally-a-night-on-the-prowl-with-ammo-tac-and-83-as-my-guides/59949/10 "2013-09-10T19:16:02Z")
Well, having users with as much notoriety and experience as yourself on my side certainly helps! 🙂 I have a journal, but there’s only been a few tests so far that’ve warranted this type of detail. I’ll keep testing and keep taking notes and hopefully the “worthy” events will continue to roll in. ---
**Author:** ![Staggerlee](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/staggerlee/32/984_2.png) [@Staggerlee](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Staggerlee)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2013, 10:45am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/finally-a-night-on-the-prowl-with-ammo-tac-and-83-as-my-guides/59949/11 "2013-09-11T10:45:45Z")
> [@sharkndragon](#): > > I likely will not go any higher than 50mcg for that reason. I knew I was pushing it… Curious, what were your signs of OD on p83? I love [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/)’s effects at its sweet spot, it’s incredible what it does. For me it seems to have a sweet spot at about 3 sprays, or for what I got at 20mcg per spray, 60mcg. I don’t OD until I go over that. (I’m 36, 6’2 230lbs) My effects on OD of P83 (the one time I went 80mcg just to see what happens), is I don’t actually want to be around myself or anyone else, really, I just have a sudden feeling that I need to be alone and the people who ARE around me and hanging on like velcro hooks, start to annoy the shit out of me (even if they are close friends), and the fun of everything starts to lose its luster. It’s sort of depressing. Additionally, everything I was doing felt uncomfortable and forced until the point where I just needed to take a shower and get it all off and even then I was only back abut 65% and my brain felt burnt out at that point. Trying to make conversation seemed stunted and it didn’t go anywhere, I lacked depth and my body felt worn out and I just wanted to retreat, but didn’t feel like I would have any solace then because I still had myself to be with, and I wasn’t even happy in my own skin. I’d imagine it would be disastrous to take too much in a place where you can’t get away, in the club or venue. It’d leave me the brooding creepy guy with his lips perma-pressed to a beer, and totally unapproachable. It’s great up to a point, its sweet spot is amazing! People flock to be around you and personal space invasions happen with regularity. P83 is one of my very favorites that I’ve tried, but too much will kill your game completely. Just shut it down. Shut YOU down, really. ---
**Author:** ![Staggerlee](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/staggerlee/32/984_2.png) [@Staggerlee](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Staggerlee)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2013, 10:55am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/finally-a-night-on-the-prowl-with-ammo-tac-and-83-as-my-guides/59949/12 "2013-09-11T10:55:02Z")
> [@1Alpha](#): > > P83 is an Awe inspiring molecule, that with the AMMO, just hit’s it out of the Park. I couldn’t agree more. [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/) is incredible, and with that AMMO on your side as well you are indomitable. Adding a touch of Shine, or even IG (depending on the circumstance IE shine for a disco, or IG for a jazz club), I think would make this combination simply incredible. I am going to check out P74 next based on so many people’s interpretations, I like what I’m hearing about it. ---
**Author:** ![sharkndragon](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sharkndragon/32/426_2.png) [@sharkndragon](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sharkndragon)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2013, 5:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/finally-a-night-on-the-prowl-with-ammo-tac-and-83-as-my-guides/59949/13 "2013-09-11T17:45:25Z")
[P74](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p74/) certainly has its place in many a mix. I have mine in the mail, should hopefully arrive soon. That and p75 will be my new guinea pigs 🙂 I have a wedding to attend this Saturday, a perfect opportunity and venue to test out a strong sexual/social. I can’t wait! ---
**Author:** ![Staggerlee](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/staggerlee/32/984_2.png) [@Staggerlee](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Staggerlee)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2013, 6:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/finally-a-night-on-the-prowl-with-ammo-tac-and-83-as-my-guides/59949/14 "2013-09-12T06:51:17Z")
> [@sharkndragon](#): > > P74 certainly has its place in many a mix. I have mine in the mail, should hopefully arrive soon. That and p75 will be my new guinea pigs 🙂 > > I have a wedding to attend this Saturday, a perfect opportunity and venue to test out a strong sexual/social. I can’t wait! Weddings are great places to game, especially if there are lots of single women there. The women at weddings are already in an open, lovey-dovey mood, so adding a bit of P83 and [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) would, methinks, make them quiver. 😃 best of luck there, and please tell us all about your experiences! ---
**Author:** ![sharkndragon](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sharkndragon/32/426_2.png) [@sharkndragon](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sharkndragon)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2013, 7:22am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/finally-a-night-on-the-prowl-with-ammo-tac-and-83-as-my-guides/59949/15 "2013-09-12T07:22:48Z")
I’ll be going with my Wife, so I won’t be doing too much gaming, but it’ll be a great opportunity to observe others reactions. Ultimately I’ll be focusing it all on my Wife, see if I can slowly ramp up the intensity throughout the night, find out if TUTH lives up to its name. ---
**Author:** ![Staggerlee](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/staggerlee/32/984_2.png) [@Staggerlee](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Staggerlee)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2013, 7:29am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/finally-a-night-on-the-prowl-with-ammo-tac-and-83-as-my-guides/59949/16 "2013-09-12T07:29:44Z")
> [@sharkndragon](#): > > I’ll be going with my Wife, so I won’t be doing too much gaming, but it’ll be a great opportunity to observe others reactions. > > Ultimately I’ll be focusing it all on my Wife, see if I can slowly ramp up the intensity throughout the night, find out if TUTH lives up to its name. Gotcha, well your wife is a woman, she’ll not be immune to the open, lovey-dovey environment either, and you can game her steadily on up through the night. I wish I had some TUTH, but I’ve never seen it in stock since I joined. I would also be interested to see how that stuff works. My wife and I were at a wedding last weekend, and I let a few of my closest friends in on the ‘secret’ of pheros, and it was a riot watching them all run around trying to game the single ladies. I was just laughing because one of my friends especially, a natural ladies man anyway was just hamming it up, and waving his hat around to waft the mones into girls faces and watching them from afar, I could tell they were mostly intrigued by the smell. Some even followed him around a little. Have fun, let us know how it goes! ---
**Author:** ![sharkndragon](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sharkndragon/32/426_2.png) [@sharkndragon](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sharkndragon)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2013, 7:34am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/finally-a-night-on-the-prowl-with-ammo-tac-and-83-as-my-guides/59949/17 "2013-09-12T07:34:52Z")
That’s awesome! I’d love to observe from the 3rd person point of view, but I don’t have anyone close enough attending the wedding that I’d be willing to share my precious mones with 😉 Yes, she is in fact a Woman. Thank God. She’s responded very well so far… The first day I greeted her with mones on (Ammo, Shine, and TAC) she hugged me, smelled me, backed away and gave me the dirty eyebrow raises and said “Mmmmmm” like I smelled tasty. Talk about Overt hit! Then another time I had 1 spray of TUTH to my neck, I kissed her, and she said my face smelled like Sex! I don’t think she’s too fond of the Akuto, but she certainly likes the [Neroli](https://a314.com/product-category/scented/androtics-neroli/). I will definitely post back, and if it’s worth enough, I’ll just make a new Thread 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Staggerlee](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/staggerlee/32/984_2.png) [@Staggerlee](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Staggerlee)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2013, 8:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/finally-a-night-on-the-prowl-with-ammo-tac-and-83-as-my-guides/59949/18 "2013-09-12T08:26:30Z")
> [@sharkndragon](#): > > That’s awesome! I’d love to observe from the 3rd person point of view, but I don’t have anyone close enough attending the wedding that I’d be willing to share my precious mones with 😉 > > Yes, she is in fact a Woman. Thank God. She’s responded very well so far… The first day I greeted her with mones on (Ammo, Shine, and TAC) she hugged me, smelled me, backed away and gave me the dirty eyebrow raises and said “Mmmmmm” like I smelled tasty. Talk about Overt hit! Then another time I had 1 spray of TUTH to my neck, I kissed her, and she said my face smelled like Sex! I don’t think she’s too fond of the Akuto, but she certainly likes the Neroli. > > I will definitely post back, and if it’s worth enough, I’ll just make a new Thread 🙂 Your lady’s reaction was much like mine. Almost instant as soon as she was in the cloud. I wrote about it in my journal. She responded as well as could be expected. I know this stuff works, because she and I were in a bad spot in our marriage before I introduced her to these, and she’s said multiple times since then that it has “saved our marriage”. She’s on here too, lizincharge. She’s totally onboard, she wants to try out a few of the women’s products now because of how successful my phero combination was on her. ---
**Author:** ![Staggerlee](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/staggerlee/32/984_2.png) [@Staggerlee](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Staggerlee)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2013, 8:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/finally-a-night-on-the-prowl-with-ammo-tac-and-83-as-my-guides/59949/19 "2013-09-12T08:28:02Z")
> [@sharkndragon](#): > > I don’t think she’s too fond of the Akuto, but she certainly likes the Neroli. I’ve noticed that my cats absolutely HATE neroli and it makes sense if it’s a citrus smell. Cats HATE citrus. They avoid me like the plague when I wear neroli scented mones, and look at me like I’m Satan incarnate. It’s pretty funny! ---
**Author:** ![sharkndragon](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sharkndragon/32/426_2.png) [@sharkndragon](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sharkndragon)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2013, 9:42am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/finally-a-night-on-the-prowl-with-ammo-tac-and-83-as-my-guides/59949/20 "2013-09-12T09:42:14Z")
Ah yea, lizincharge! I just read her first few posts earlier today… journal and unborn baby. Seems even the baby digs your signature now! Best of luck to you both… [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/finally-a-night-on-the-prowl-with-ammo-tac-and-83-as-my-guides/59949.md?page=2)