# First batch received - need some help **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [December 30, 2009, 8:47am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-batch-received-need-some-help/35163 "2009-12-30T08:47:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 5\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![stomp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/71e660/32.png) [@stomp](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/stomp)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2009, 8:47am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-batch-received-need-some-help/35163/1 "2009-12-30T08:47:14Z")
Just got my first order, here’s what I got: CTTM,IShine,A314,IO,TUTH,IH,IJ I’d like to know what kind of mixes should I do for the following occasions: **Casual** - Normal everyday stuff, going to the bank and around town to take of business, sitting at the office (a lot of females come and go during the day there) **Clubbing** - Partying at the club I did my research on this forum, most suggest A134 + IShine for the casual occasions, I’d like to hear more suggestions. Also, I noticed that I mistakenly ordered a 4x strength [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) rather than the regular one. In most cases, 2x is the recommended dose, so how should I spray myself. Should I try and do half a spray only ? ---
**Author:** ![rhuang22](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/rhuang22/32/636_2.png) [@rhuang22](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/rhuang22)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2009, 9:18am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-batch-received-need-some-help/35163/2 "2009-12-30T09:18:06Z")
A314 + IShine is a good combo for casual. And you said how you have lots of females going in and out, well, IH might be a good addition to the mix. This is so because IH is a “quick bonder” so females will feel close to you even though it’s a short amount of time. For casual I usually use A314, CTTM2, and sometimes IS(running low). And I wouldn’t worry about the 4x strength… 1 or 2 sprays should be perfectly safe. As for the clubbing mix, I’ll let a more experienced user weigh in on this 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![stomp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/71e660/32.png) [@stomp](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/stomp)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2009, 5:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-batch-received-need-some-help/35163/3 "2009-12-30T17:28:29Z")
Thanks for the help, I was concerned that 1 spray of 4x strength IS might be too much. ---
**Author:** ![reddog](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/reddog/32/2091_2.png) [@reddog](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/reddog)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2009, 3:50am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-batch-received-need-some-help/35163/4 "2009-12-31T03:50:38Z")
IS has a very short 1/2 life compared to A314 … you might even consider refreshing IS after 2 hours… ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2009, 5:34am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-batch-received-need-some-help/35163/5 "2009-12-31T05:34:43Z")
Ok your gonna do what all of us did when we got our very first orders. Its a right of passage of sorts. We like to call it your phero baptism. You layer right away and run out into the world and look for effects. 😃 Some people find success right out of the gate with there baptism combos and some come back disappointed. Either way you will have no understanding or what worked or didn’t work because you wont be able to tell if it was the Ishine or the A314 etc etc. I strongly urge that you work with the products one by one before layering. Finding the best application points for each and the dosage and seeing exactly what they do for you and the kind of effects each one creates. Then move to layer just two of them and get to know those combos. This will give you a much better understanding and greater success with [pheromones](https://a314.com/) as you advance in using them to improve your self and life in general. Tisha