# First date pheromone report with Ammo World

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-date-pheromone-report-with-ammo-world/62138>\
**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [June 6, 2014, 9:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-date-pheromone-report-with-ammo-world/62138 "2014-06-06T21:50:01Z")\
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**Author:** ![TheAttractor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/theattractor/32/575_2.png) [@TheAttractor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TheAttractor)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2014, 9:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-date-pheromone-report-with-ammo-world/62138/1 "2014-06-06T21:50:01Z")

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I recently had a first date, with a girl I met on a dating site. Before going on the date, I put on the following pheromones.  
Ammo World: 3 sprays on neck  
[Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/): 2 sprays on wrists, one each  
Instant Shine: 2 sprays on wrists, one each  
P84: 1 spray on chest

Overall, the date went pretty well, although the final verdict is still up in the air. She’s about my age. The hits I got were pretty interesting, peppered with a good number of IOI’s throughout. Here at the hits I got.

**Self**  
Unlike with using Ammo Summer on a date, which I’ve done before, Ammo World had a more energizing self-effect, and even made me feel a little wound up. Although, the latter probably happened because I was going straight from work, and got caught in traffic, and was worried about being late. (I wasn’t.)

**Group of teenagers**  
When I got to the ice cream place, my date called me, and said she was stuck in traffic (how ironic!) and will be a little late. I found a bench half a block away, and sat down to read a newspaper. (Waiting on a bench somehow makes me feel less self-conscious than waiting inside at the table.) There was a group of teens on the adjacent bench, talking loudly and tossing small items into a garbage bin. I pretty much tuned them out. One guy threw a McDonald’s cup, but it bounced off the bin, landed on the ground, and spilled. That’s when I looked up from my newspaper with a “WTF!” look on my face. The kid looked clearly embarrassed, and said: “sorry, sir; I’ll pick it up”, and did just that. The whole group went quiet, until I stood up to go meet my date by the entrance.

**My date**  
It started out well. She looked more attractive in person than in her photos. I was greeted with a handshake, which I found overly formal (I usually do a light hug), but whatever. She apologized for being late, which I thought was a good sign, we got our ice creams, and sat down. Throughout the date, the conversation flowed very smoothly, with only one or two brief moments of awkward silence, which I was able to recover from. We talked more about her than me; plus, she moved around a lot, and I found it interesting. About halfway through, I started seeing what I believe to be IOI’s: she fiddled with her hair (neck length) a lot, and showed no discomfort when I touched her hand to emphasize a point. We talked for quite a while, and almost lost track of time; an hour passed since then. I remembered a rule I read in a book, about stopping a date while it’s still fun, as opposed to letting it run out of steam (and by extension, her interest). So I did just that. We parted ways with a hug, which I found kind of dry, but again, whatever. Maybe she’s just shy.

**Thoughts**  
This girl struck me as a little emotionally flat, so to speak, but that’s not a deal-breaker at all. I have a tendency to be like that myself. She didn’t show much inflection variation in her voice, even when we talked about things I knew she was into. In the past, my successful dates were quite animated emotionally, and even touchy-feely. But the IOI’s were really nice. I’m hoping for a second date.

What do you think? Was the hair-fiddling and the lack of discomfort with hand-touching actual IOI’s and/or pheromone hits? Or just her personality? Comments are welcome.

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**Author:** ![Mrdimes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/50afbb/32.png) [@Mrdimes](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mrdimes)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2014, 12:55am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-date-pheromone-report-with-ammo-world/62138/2 "2014-06-07T00:55:06Z")

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What do u feel the diffrence between world and summer for you?

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**Author:** ![TheAttractor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/theattractor/32/575_2.png) [@TheAttractor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TheAttractor)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2014, 3:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-date-pheromone-report-with-ammo-world/62138/3 "2014-06-07T15:38:41Z")

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The difference is this:

[Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) World is pretty much like regular Ammo, only with a more floral smell. People described it as kind of burly. It gives you a sexy, masculine vibe, and causes women around you to react accordingly. I generally got good reactions from people when wearing Ammo World. Women acted affectionate with me, and men talked to me with respect, with only occasional ball-busting here or there.

Ammo Summer has two extra molecules that the other versions of Ammo don’t have. It smells great, but is “soft”. Women under age 26 reacted well to it; they smiled and even acted a little skittish in a cute way. Other demographics, not so much. Older women showed only basic politeness, and men busted my balls a lot. Having said that, I love the self-effects. It’s like anti-anxiety meds in vaporizer form.

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**Author:** ![BigEasy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/dc4da7/32.png) [@BigEasy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/BigEasy)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2014, 4:36am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-date-pheromone-report-with-ammo-world/62138/4 "2014-06-12T04:36:04Z")

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Sounds like you had a good date. If she lets you touch her hand without any discomfort or pulling away your pretty much golden. Just keep escalating from there!

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**Author:** ![TheAttractor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/theattractor/32/575_2.png) [@TheAttractor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TheAttractor)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2014, 5:17am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-date-pheromone-report-with-ammo-world/62138/5 "2014-06-13T05:17:16Z")

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> [@BigEasy](#):
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> Sounds like you had a good date. If she **lets you** touch her hand without any discomfort or pulling away your pretty much golden. Just keep escalating from there!

If I learned nothing else about dating in the past 5 years, it’s that there’s a BIG difference between a woman _letting_ me be affectionate with her, and having an enthusiastic counter-response. In my case, it started out very well, or so I thought: there was a second date. During that date, I actually tried escalating: first holding her hand, then playing with her hair, then a kiss on the lips. She seemed cool with holding hands and when me playing with her hair (which felt good to me, and hopefully to her too). _However_, I got no counter-responses when I did those things: no pressing her hand into mine, and no head on my shoulder during the hair-playing. So I pretty much had it coming when she rebuffed the kiss. To be honest, I only tried it to spare myself the wondering. I’m now 100% sure she only wants to be friends, which is her right, but the limited affections feel like a proverbial lap dance: a big tease, where more action is impossible.

In my past experiences, if a girl was romantically interested in me, I got a real kiss by the second date at the absolute earliest, onlookers be damned. OR… she was affectionate with me strictly as a friend right off the bat, and her intentions and boundaries were crystal clear. OR… I’d get the hint to stop right away, and no harm, no foul.
