# First date...To pay or not to pay **URL:** \ **Category:** Lounge\ **Created:** [April 2, 2007, 7:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-date-to-pay-or-not-to-pay/2867 "2007-04-02T07:09:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![MarkL](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/markl/32/825_2.png) [@MarkL](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MarkL)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2007, 5:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-date-to-pay-or-not-to-pay/2867/103 "2007-04-24T05:15:05Z")
> [@Phoenix](#): > > Do you do this every dinner date though? > Sounds like it might become repetitive too. > I think it should be occasional. > But you posted some really good tips, thanks. If I invite the person to dinner, I **always** make sure that I make arrangements for payment in advance. No, I don’t have flowers delivered for every dinner date, nor a capella groups performing table side, or crystal goblets to keep; but I do try to make an effort to make every dinner special, somehow. Often, it’s just working out something with the kitchen in advance: an off-the-menu appetizer or dessert. Especially dessert, because so many people say they don’t want to order dessert – either they are trying to spare your wallet, or they are making an effort to control diet and don’t want some enormous sugar monster to be plated in front of them. But a small (shared) sweet ending to a dinner often “feels right.” (But not if your guest really is struggling to make/keep weight.) Just for fun: most better Greek restaurants have lamb testicles battered and ready to fry, a well-loved appetizer, but one that almost never makes it into print on the menu in the USA. They are often ordered as “sweetbreads” (though, strictly speaking, only the thymus and pancreas of an animal under 1 years old are true sweetbreads.) Or, if it’s a big night on a tight schedule (dinner followed by a performance with a definite start time) then I might make sure the head knows this, and I preorder an apertif + appetizer to save time. The gestures don’t have to be big, just graceful … even whimsical: $4 of chiffon material draped to turn a chair into a Throne, a $3 sparkly comb as a Tiara, and a waiter who played along and used “Your Highness” all through the evening – that was a riot! Even grownup girls like to play Princess sometimes. I have a black tanned leather ‘belly’ … very soft, like glove leather, a couple feet square. I plan to dose it with some [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) and use it at a prop for a dinner next Month with a slightly kinky theme, lol. If you invite someone to dinner and don’t have fun, I’d say it’s your fault. For me, a dinner is always susceptible to being “a production”, just a little bit larger than life. Perhaps it’s because I’m a foodie, heh! Maybe I should write the e-book. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![toilofday](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/toilofday/32/371_2.png) [@toilofday](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/toilofday)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2007, 5:52am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-date-to-pay-or-not-to-pay/2867/104 "2007-04-25T05:52:46Z")
> [@MarkL](#): > > Yep, saraunne, you’re the first person that’s explicitly noticed toil’s new photo in a thread. I agree – I’d consider having his mug an asset. > > Just watch: he’s moving to LA, and the next time you see him, it will be as the central figure in a reality show on cooking gourmet food as a dating method… haha Thanks! I don’t realy know what to say. Gourmet food as a dating method is right up my ally 2nd date kind of thing though…maybe 3rd. ---
**Author:** ![Nunya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ac8455/32.png) [@Nunya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Nunya)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2007, 11:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-date-to-pay-or-not-to-pay/2867/105 "2007-04-25T11:26:25Z")
so is there a 2nd or 3rd date happening with airplane girl? what’s up? ---
**Author:** ![toilofday](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/toilofday/32/371_2.png) [@toilofday](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/toilofday)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2007, 2:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-date-to-pay-or-not-to-pay/2867/106 "2007-04-25T14:10:12Z")
HAHAHAHA I totaly got blown off. oh well…live and learn ---
**Author:** ![Nunya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ac8455/32.png) [@Nunya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Nunya)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2007, 9:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-date-to-pay-or-not-to-pay/2867/107 "2007-04-25T21:11:53Z")
ex to the next. that’s a damn shame - for her. ---
**Author:** ![toilofday](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/toilofday/32/371_2.png) [@toilofday](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/toilofday)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2007, 10:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-date-to-pay-or-not-to-pay/2867/108 "2007-04-25T22:01:08Z")
🆒 just what I was thinking yeah…I realy don’t know what happened…I think she may have seen my [pheromone](https://a314.com/shop/) journal. That probably did it. A list of chemical references and such, plus she was in it..haha ---
**Author:** ![Nunya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ac8455/32.png) [@Nunya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Nunya)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2007, 10:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-date-to-pay-or-not-to-pay/2867/109 "2007-04-25T22:12:36Z")
doh! you need to keep that under lock and key. ---
**Author:** ![toilofday](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/toilofday/32/371_2.png) [@toilofday](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/toilofday)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2007, 11:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-date-to-pay-or-not-to-pay/2867/110 "2007-04-25T23:24:10Z")
it was in my center console and I had to go into a gas station for a bathroom break yeah…she definately read it. ---
**Author:** ![sigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dec6dc/32.png) [@sigma](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sigma)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2007, 5:05am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-date-to-pay-or-not-to-pay/2867/111 "2007-04-27T05:05:47Z")
> [@toilofday](#): > > it was in my center console and I had to go into a gas station for a bathroom break > > yeah…she definately read it. ouch! Thats why as much as possible, I try to keep specific people out of my posts here. I’ve only done it a few times to better describe my results. I also have a habit of keeping my [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) in the car. I used to keep them in my glove box…now I stick them in a discreet compartment in the trunk. lol it would really suck if someone found my massive stash of pheros ---
**Author:** ![bblder](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bblder/32/591_2.png) [@bblder](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bblder)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2007, 11:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-date-to-pay-or-not-to-pay/2867/112 "2007-04-28T23:14:21Z")
if you have been chasing her-u pay If it’s more of a mutal thing split it. “-Tip: Grab **the** check, rip it half, and tell that girl to pay her half… Believe me, she’ll be impressed at your ballz and your refusal to be like every other AFC out there.” [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-date-to-pay-or-not-to-pay/2867.md?page=5)