# First Day of School Mix.....NOT GOOD. **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [September 2, 2008, 6:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-day-of-school-mix-not-good/18699 "2008-09-02T18:38:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![lakerman34](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lakerman34/32/1663_2.png) [@lakerman34](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/lakerman34)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2008, 6:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-day-of-school-mix-not-good/18699/1 "2008-09-02T18:38:46Z")
So, it’s the first day of school. I put a drop of A314 on my wrists, and spread it behind my ears and neck. Then, 1 spray of Ammo to the chest. Then, 2 sprays of MX203, one on each side of my neck. Then, 2 sprays of Instant Shine 4X (the MX288 version) on my head. Then, 2 sprays of Instant Openness 2X, one per each arm crank. Ghost effect GALORE. I felt like I was being COMPLETELY anti-social, no one was talking to me, almost avoiding me. And I felt kind of DEPRESSED, so the two shots of Instant Shine didn’t seem to be working out for me. ☹ BIG TIME loner effect. Thoughts and HELP would be appreciated. Tomorrow I think I am going to replace the A314 with [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/), and no Ammo, and see what happens. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2008, 7:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-day-of-school-mix-not-good/18699/2 "2008-09-02T19:00:21Z")
First day of school and people are nervous already. Your wearing an alot of mones there. Scale back, sometimes more is not better. [MX203](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/mx203/) has alot of anol in it already and your using IO 2x. That can leave people stunned and cause them to go blank which could look like the ghost effect. I would suggest 1 drop of A314 1 spray of Ishine 4X and either 2 sprays of IO or MX203 but not both together. With the regular strength products you want to stay close to a 3 to 1 ratio to bring the intimidation factor down. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![lakerman34](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lakerman34/32/1663_2.png) [@lakerman34](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/lakerman34)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2008, 8:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-day-of-school-mix-not-good/18699/3 "2008-09-02T20:58:42Z")
Thank you Tisha. Thing is, I have A LOT of friends (I was on freakin prom court lol) But, today, IDK, I just felt anti-social, and in the past, kids usually said “HEY JOHN! HOW’S IT GOIN?” Today I seemed like people were avoiding me at all costs. Hell, I even heard one kid say during a study hall “Look at John, sitting all alone.” That’s just not me. ---
**Author:** ![mockingbird](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mockingbird/32/1790_2.png) [@mockingbird](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mockingbird)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2008, 5:52am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-day-of-school-mix-not-good/18699/4 "2008-09-03T05:52:45Z")
Looks like a friendly and relatively light mix for anything social, so im not sure whats wrong. Tisha is probably right by saying that you wore too much [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/): something like 1 spray of ammo, 1 ishine 4x and 2 io should be good 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![LifeT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e8c25b/32.png) [@LifeT](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/LifeT)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2008, 7:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-day-of-school-mix-not-good/18699/5 "2008-09-03T07:26:10Z")
it may be safer to just drop ammo and mx203 all together. i think -none is just too risky in a school environment no matter how tiny the amount. the P93 in the mx203 also has a tendency to create a ‘high status’ effect that’s quite anti-social, coupled with none it can’t be good. (not to mention the P93 is an instant asian-repeller) if u have [P74](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p74/) make sure to use that, can’t go wrong with instant mr.cool effect and it’s hard to OD on it. ---
**Author:** ![ProtoJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7feea3/32.png) [@ProtoJay](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ProtoJay)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2008, 8:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-day-of-school-mix-not-good/18699/6 "2008-09-03T08:57:32Z")
> [@LifeT](#): > > it may be safer to just drop ammo and mx203 all together. i think -none is just too risky in a school environment no matter how tiny the amount. the P93 in the mx203 also has a tendency to create a ‘high status’ effect that’s quite anti-social, coupled with none it can’t be good. (not to mention the P93 is an instant asian-repeller) > > if u have P74 make sure to use that, can’t go wrong with instant mr.cool effect and it’s hard to OD on it. I too am wondering why you would have such an anti-social effect but I am sure that they are right, try to reduce the mix a bit in terms of none and come gradually. When you are trying new environments sometimes a little experimentation is neccesary… ---
**Author:** ![Phya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/94ad74/32.png) [@Phya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phya)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2008, 9:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-day-of-school-mix-not-good/18699/7 "2008-09-03T09:00:00Z")
I think dropping any -none products is a good idea. Were you treated as a ghost when you approached? IG has a warmer quality to it, not a bad idea to switch it in. If all else fails, go with IG and IO. What is mx288? ---
**Author:** ![lakerman34](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lakerman34/32/1663_2.png) [@lakerman34](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/lakerman34)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2008, 6:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-day-of-school-mix-not-good/18699/8 "2008-09-03T18:09:32Z")
Thank you guys! MX288 is the new [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) 4X, the experimental version Funny thing, today I TOTALLY forgot to put on pheromones! HAHA A LIL better than yesterday with nothing though. So, I’m going to try A314, instant openness, and instant shine. should i bring some with me to re-apply during lunch? ---
**Author:** ![Phya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/94ad74/32.png) [@Phya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phya)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2008, 6:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-day-of-school-mix-not-good/18699/9 "2008-09-03T18:16:12Z")
How is mx288 different from regular IS? ---
**Author:** ![lakerman34](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lakerman34/32/1663_2.png) [@lakerman34](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/lakerman34)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2008, 6:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-day-of-school-mix-not-good/18699/10 "2008-09-03T18:37:26Z")
I think it’s supposed to be slower release. ---
**Author:** ![tfer15](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tfer15/32/711_2.png) [@tfer15](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tfer15)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2008, 4:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-day-of-school-mix-not-good/18699/11 "2008-09-04T04:19:57Z")
yeah. im tryin my instant openness in high school now. but i havent got JACK. ill finish up my testing of it all by it self this week but idk. cant seem to find a good amount to get decent hits off of it. really makn me mad. also i want to try IFM too. and [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/). how has mx203 worked for you? want to get that or IG next ---
**Author:** ![Wolfy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wolfy/32/965_2.png) [@Wolfy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Wolfy)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2008, 5:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-day-of-school-mix-not-good/18699/12 "2008-09-04T05:27:28Z")
> [@lakerman34](#): > > Tomorrow I think I am going to replace the A314 with Instant Gentleman, and no Ammo, and see what happens. I think you will have better luck with that combo. All else fails put on two shots of IO to your skull just above each ear (one spray each side) and go for the day. then try adding a shot of ammo to your chest. remember younger women have better smell receptors in their noses, so less maybe more with them. one drop A314 on your foot may be just about enough. ---
**Author:** ![lakerman34](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lakerman34/32/1663_2.png) [@lakerman34](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/lakerman34)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2008, 10:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-day-of-school-mix-not-good/18699/13 "2008-09-09T22:14:45Z")
SO the A314, [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/), and Instant Shine mix have been working out quite nicely. I also tried some MX103 (smells like barf), and covered it with Abercrombie Fierce. That worked well also. I also liked the effect MX273 instead of the MX103 had. Still, I have to say, I was MUCH more social last year. IDK what is going on… ---
**Author:** ![ProtoJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7feea3/32.png) [@ProtoJay](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ProtoJay)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2008, 11:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-day-of-school-mix-not-good/18699/14 "2008-09-09T23:01:20Z")
> [@lakerman34](#): > > So, it’s the first day of school. > > I put a drop of A314 on my wrists, and spread it behind my ears and neck. > > Then, 1 spray of Ammo to the chest. > > Then, 2 sprays of MX203, one on each side of my neck. > > Then, 2 sprays of Instant Shine 4X (the MX288 version) on my head. > > Then, 2 sprays of Instant Openness 2X, one per each arm crank. > > Ghost effect GALORE. I felt like I was being COMPLETELY anti-social, no one was talking to me, almost avoiding me. And I felt kind of DEPRESSED, so the two shots of Instant Shine didn’t seem to be working out for me. ☹ > BIG TIME loner effect. > > Thoughts and HELP would be appreciated. > > Tomorrow I think I am going to replace the A314 with Instant Gentleman, and no Ammo, and see what happens. I noticed you said school, perhaps your too young and already have a high -none signiture and that just pushes it over the edge… I suggest you concentrate on the socials anyway, maybe A314 is ok… ---
**Author:** ![lakerman34](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lakerman34/32/1663_2.png) [@lakerman34](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/lakerman34)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2008, 11:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-day-of-school-mix-not-good/18699/15 "2008-09-09T23:40:28Z")
I want to try the [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/), but it’s going to run out before the school day is over anyways, and I don’t want to lug that big bottle around lol. If a kid/teacher sees it in my backpack, I am going to have LOTS of splainin’ to do. ---
**Author:** ![capone](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/capone/32/587_2.png) [@capone](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/capone)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2008, 3:10am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-day-of-school-mix-not-good/18699/16 "2008-09-10T03:10:50Z")
I know it could seem a nonsense, but so many sprays and adding covering cologne could have lead people to mark you as the “cologne guy”, specially in a classroom or other closed places where your mates are many hours surrounding you. There is a slight possibility IMO that the ghost effect you perceive is really that people get overhelmed by all those scents on you in a closed place for so many hours and try to avoid it not being close (specially if you heard that commentary about you being alone). It’s just an idea but, believe me, I have lived the “cologne guy situation” in both sides and it’s sometimes exactly as you are telling us 😉. ---
**Author:** ![lakerman34](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lakerman34/32/1663_2.png) [@lakerman34](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/lakerman34)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2008, 6:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-day-of-school-mix-not-good/18699/17 "2008-09-10T18:17:20Z")
Good point, capone, BUT I even asked people, and they said they didn’t smell a thing. LOL ---
**Author:** ![capone](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/capone/32/587_2.png) [@capone](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/capone)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2008, 7:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-day-of-school-mix-not-good/18699/18 "2008-09-10T19:11:32Z")
Hahaha, well done 😃. So we only have the -none issues left. Ah, there’s another version of ghost effect that is related to a non-congruent signature or a very strange phero sig, in some posts was stated that target brain seems to disconnect from the phero information that does not understand and this leads people to ignore your phero sig or to ignore you… Anyway IMO that is not much related with your mix… I have never tested so high doses of TAA, by the way, but there are no known problems about it, as far as I know… Could be a real life issue, merely coincident? Anyway pheros should have helped… um… how are your experiments going nowadays? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Wrlprchnx](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wrlprchnx/32/1360_2.png) [@Wrlprchnx](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Wrlprchnx)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2008, 7:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-day-of-school-mix-not-good/18699/19 "2008-09-10T19:15:49Z")
Personal experience [MX203](https://a314.com/product/mx203/) and -none don’t mix well (Especially AMMO and MX203) - Found that I got a kinda worst of both worlds type effect - Didn’t see nearly same the calming/happy effects from MX203 and it felt like the -none irritability was amplified ---
**Author:** ![lakerman34](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lakerman34/32/1663_2.png) [@lakerman34](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/lakerman34)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2008, 8:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-day-of-school-mix-not-good/18699/20 "2008-09-10T20:38:14Z")
Better, but last yr. it was easier for me to talk to people, and I was smiling a lot more (last year didn’t wear pheromones, just Pherlure). This year, I just don’t feel very confident I guess. I stutter, mumble, don’t look at people in the face, and I try to say “hey, what’s going on” (for some reason, this problems only w/ the girls, not the guys) but like, have problems doing it. Very awkward. [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-day-of-school-mix-not-good/18699.md?page=2)