# First day using mones! Back to the drawing board! Suggestions? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [March 13, 2015, 7:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-day-using-mones-back-to-the-drawing-board-suggestions/64003 "2015-03-13T07:02:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 5\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![RussH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/9de053/32.png) [@RussH](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RussH)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2015, 7:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-day-using-mones-back-to-the-drawing-board-suggestions/64003/1 "2015-03-13T07:02:22Z")
So my shipment came today before I went into work. I sprayed two shots of [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) on my head (extremely low haircut). 1 spray of A314a on the back of my neck. 2 sprays of Ammo 2x, one on my forearm and one on the front of my neck. I wear a lab coat at work so I wanted to spray on exposed surfaces. My observations are: I experienced no out of the normal treatment by women. The woman (36yo) that I’m “dating” at work acted no differently. She actually stated that I smell like women’s perfume lol 😃 I literally let her smell the forearm that I sprayed on Ammo 2x on. So here’s what I’m thinking: 1. Should I spray on more? 2. I sprayed myself about 15 mins before work. Should I put more time in between the sprays and going to work? 3. I’m thinking of spraying my normal colonge on my clothes to try and mask the scents. 4. I have TUTH also, but I was advised not to use it in a work setting. Any suggestions? ---
**Author:** ![mrseeker](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mrseeker/32/5177_2.png) [@mrseeker](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mrseeker)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2015, 10:04am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-day-using-mones-back-to-the-drawing-board-suggestions/64003/2 "2015-03-13T10:04:16Z")
Well, [Neroli](https://a314.com/product-category/scented/androtics-neroli/) is originally a “woman’s scent”. If she thinks that you smell like a woman, then that means she is smelling the Neroli. Most female scents are neroli-based actually. Ammo is more manly, so maybe you could try a bigger dosage of Ammo or change the location where you spray them? My neck is a great one, so is my chest. Exposed areas tend to diffuse the spray faster, however since its exposed it also is cooler. Akuto (A314) is the best to smell like a “real man”. The first 30-60 minutes is the most obvious time someone will complain that you are smelling “too hard”. After that, it is not obvious but people will still detect the smell. Spraying on your normal cologne does work, does not alter your spray in any way. TUTH is quite the aggressive one. I don’t use it at work because it gets all the guys hyped up and aggressive. Unless you are in a funky vibe and like to provoke some awkward moments, then try it out in a very low dosage (1-2 sprays) 😉 ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2015, 11:38am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-day-using-mones-back-to-the-drawing-board-suggestions/64003/3 "2015-03-13T11:38:13Z")
Two sprays heavy Ammo is actually quite a forward dose - more suited to social environments than work. It cold be that you are getting ghosted because of it. It also contains 10mcg of Alphanol, which will impact negatively on your A314. Maybe drop to one spray of Ammo and see how that goes. Also remember that workplaces are often not where people want to feel particularly aroused, but it depends on the environment/social dynamics. So again you might actually do better with A314/IS and only add the Ammo when you get out of work? As well as status, A314/IS will still convey good solid attractive qualities. Spraying you normal cologne won’t help Ammo greatly - it would take a very potent cologne to cover Ammo, complementing it is more your best option. [Neroli](https://a314.com/product-category/scented/androtics-neroli/) however is easy to cover as it fades nicely after thirty mins or so. TUTH is difficult at work - I occasionally wear it on quiet days to shake things up a bit ut overall, its not an everyday work phero - again I save it for after. ---
**Author:** ![RussH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/9de053/32.png) [@RussH](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RussH)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2015, 5:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-day-using-mones-back-to-the-drawing-board-suggestions/64003/4 "2015-03-13T17:12:23Z")
Thanks guys for the responses. So I’m going to use both your suggestions and see which works out better for me. Today I’m going use mrseeker’s ideas and add additional spray of ammo. Next day I’ll follow mobocaster’s guidelines and tone it down a bit, only using A314 and Instant shine. I have really dry skin, even after applying lotion. I’m not sure if that makes a difference or not. I’ll keep at it and see what’s best for me. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2015, 5:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-day-using-mones-back-to-the-drawing-board-suggestions/64003/5 "2015-03-13T17:50:12Z")
If you have dry skin, then lotion is essential as it will likely absorb the pheros more readilly. Just leace the lotion to settle-in before you spray. You might need a bit longer with A314/IS - that one delivers best with time and there is an element of settling into the signature. You may also need to take steps to be more sociable/speak-up around your colleagues. Even one spray of /a has quite a presence as it is dosed for impact and they may initially step back from you but will warm again when you signal you are still approachable. IS should help make it more team-oriented though. Also check the contents of the lotion - if it contins triclosan or other antibacterials, they can destroy pheros very effectively. Good quality lotions tend to be the better bet but always check!