# First experiences w/ Ammo and Instant Shine **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [January 12, 2008, 2:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-experiences-w-ammo-and-instant-shine/8244 "2008-01-12T14:56:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![littlesthobo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/41988e/32.png) [@littlesthobo](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/littlesthobo)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2008, 2:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-experiences-w-ammo-and-instant-shine/8244/1 "2008-01-12T14:56:34Z")
Here’s my first report on my experiences so far with these pheromone products,over the December period…Not that I’m being cynical,but I’ll try to factor in Instant Shine: damn,I could get high on this stuff 😃 when the package arrived (3 days with DHL..woot!!),I applied a couple of sprays to my wrists and once dried off took a big sniff…kinda made me feel all high and giggly for about ten minutes (if anyone has taken Ecstasy before, this kinda felt like a really really mild version of this..)…Spent time a couple of hours later round a friends house,and the conversation was generally perky and upbeat, not much in the way of complaining/bitching (we both work with austistics/people with learning disabilities,and at times it can get you down a fair bit…).. 2 x Instant shine: sprayed to wrists,then rubbed on face/neck area 2 x Ammo: 1 spray to chest, 1 to neck/rubbed along cheeks I tried to get them more on the face/neck area as I was wearing a thick,heavy winter coat,so it kinda made sense to me to apply to those areas for maximum effect One thing I noticed with the Ammo,was a feeling of being ‘pumped’ or ‘aggro’ or about 10/15 mins after application not sure of the best words to describe the effect,but I guess a little more manly 🙂 felt a slight unease with this,as I thought if this was how it’s going to be all the time with Ammo, then it’s not for me really (makes me wonder about that A314 though )…the effects wore off so I’d didn’t give it much thought after that… I decided to see what happened with this mix while out doing my Christmas shopping: Again this IShine really does seem to perk me up,and feel more carefree… I went into a perfume store to stock up on some new cologne… the store wasn’t too crowded,but busy.. I’m fairly confident in social environments,but I have a tendency to be apologetic when pumping into people,or trying to slide past them/move them aside… Whether it was the ‘Christmas spirit’ (ie: Outta my way,I’m doing all my shopping today,foo’ !!) or the 'pheromones,I didn’t have much thought for it,and just pushed my way up to the counter/directly infront of some of the salesgirls (both looked about mid 20s)… First salesgirl was very helpful,even though she had a bit of an ‘ice queen’ vibe about her,tight pout ,watching over the shoppers a bit hawk-like rather than focusing on the customer at hand (me 🙂),quite to the point and direct…I asked for something similar in smell to ‘Givenchy Primal Instinct’ ,as that’s my fave mansmell… spent about 10-15 minutes going through diffferent products (I was expecting a quick in/out sale,what with it being the run up to Christmas),but a couple of times while doing this she kept referring back to the Givenchy,even though it was one of the cheapest on offer…didn’t notice any IOIs ,a couple of times she kept stroking the nape of her neck (her hair was scraped back in a ponytail,fwiw..) …one thing that did really stand out was the other salesgirl..for pretty much the whole time,she had been stood just to the right of my peripheral vision, with a ‘deer in the headlights’ look on her face, blatantly staring at me…I smiled and said ‘hi’ to her,no reply ,just a smile (for a point of reference she looked like that girl who plays ‘Ugly Betty’ ,not the character,the actor..or the musician Kaki king, so a hottie in my book) and a step back 😃 dunno what to make of that… In another shop (again for perfumes),I decided to push my luck a bit.. asked a blonde assistant for help in selecting a perfume for a female friend (I’d already decided on what I wanted,I just wondered how helpful she would be)… again,maybe it was because of the Christmas period,but she was really helpful, going over various different brands,a little bit of hair twirling and kinda a swaying (?? again ,I don’t know best how to describe this,but a swaying of her hips/rolling back and forth on feet slightly)…made a little bit of conversation about my plans for going out/celebrating over the Christmas period,but nothing memorable (I’ve been meaning to do a write for a couple of weeks now,but haven’t got around to it until now…hopefully the next one will be more precise/in depth)… Got a really interesting experience after that though..I’d bought a sandwich and sat down to take a break from shopping,and a girl doing charity campaigning kinda caught my eye as I was people watching… I smiled and gestured for her to come over and sit down (I don’t mind having a chat with street campaigners,etc,as I feel they get a bit fed up being ignored loads)…maybe it was the closer proximity,but this girl showed some definite IOIs…first off,as we got to talking about the work she does, she started touching my arm/wrist a lot,this proceeded to the point where she had her hand rested on my wrist and was stroking my arm with the other 😃 really direct ,close up eye contact the whole time,and she was spent a real long time talking about herself,hopes and aspirations rather than the charity work (I already donate to said charity and work for one myself,so maybe that was why there was more openness too..) ..a fair bit of hair stroking and lip biting,she was quite open about giving me her contact details (work contact number),how long she’d been doing this sort of work,her heritage (Italian/Dutch…girl was a dead ringer for Bahar soomekh, the persian girl in ‘Crash’ ,and Saw 3,i think) …seemed to be really apologetic about the fact that she hadn’t spoken much about the charity and more about herself,but we finished up talking (She wanted to do conservation work in Borneo or something,IIRC,so I put her onto [justgiving.com](http://justgiving.com), a good site for generating funds for this sort of thing)…got a hug and was on my way… Al these experiences involved me parting with my cash though, so maybe that was a factor in them,but I think the pheromones enhanced or influenced the actions of the people involved … 2 x Instant Shine 1 x Ammo I was working a day shift but had planned to go out later after finishing… A fellow worker who I get on well with seemed to be affected by this.. She’s late 40’s (but serious looks early 30s,pretty lady),we have a good rapport,and are both kinda flirty/laid back and open for the most part… Today she was really quite full on about delving into my past relationships,the longest relationship I’d been in,reasons for breakups etc,and current attitude towards sex and promiscuity 🙂 ..lots of slow hair stroking (again mainly around the nape),and sly sideways glances when there were breaks in conversation… later on in the day,as we were just watching rubbish on the TV,I noticed she was kinda sprawled out on the sofa,with on leg kinda draped over the arm of it,and it really made me think she wanted to be ‘taken’ ,for lack of a better term…😉 Went out with an ex in the evening,and applied an extra spray of IShine to the wrists…(we didn’t split on harsh terms,so there’s no animosity between us)…kinda got a few DIHL moments from her,and a few weird looks like she didn’t know what was going on (maybe down to the 'pheromones changing my usual ‘scent’ ,and it confusing her a bit)…she got a bit sarcastic/clingy too when I spent too much time talking to the barmaid 9not usual for her,she has a tendency to play it ‘too cool for school’ or like she isn’t phased by other women giving me attention…)… Walking her home she was really clinging to me and kept wrapping her arms round me for a kiss and a cuddle along the way (She’s in the ‘friend zone’ with me now,so I’m not interested on taking it further anytime soon 😛)… Another occasion with the Ammo/IShine is with a girl I’m casually seeing at the mo…can’t remember the dosage,sprayed to the chest though,but we have a pretty open down to earth thing going on (good company and sex,basically 😛) …hadn’t been round her house more than ten minutes and she’d flung her top/bra off, pounced on me with a ‘come on littlesthobo,you know I’m not shy!!’ …again,were pretty open about what this relationship is about,but I think the ‘Ammo’ added a sense of urgency/extra friskyness to the mix…really quite clingy/cuddly afterwards,kinda tried to coil herself around me/lock her legs round mine before she fell asleep (not unusual I think,but buried her head into my chest/nuzzled it a lot) Haven’t had much chance to try them in a club environment yet,due to work,and kinda forgetting to use them (over the Christmas period,all my drinking/partying plans were made at the last minute…)… I’ve tried to be slightly cynical in my report or at least describe the situation as best as i remember,as I think other factors are playing a part in this,but from the few times I’ve used them,there definitely adding something to the mix,and enhancing moments/taking them in a direction that wouldn’t have occured without them… I’ll post more reports when I’m out and about next ,and pay more attention to peeps reactions…(off out tonight to see a friends band,so I might try the ‘Ammo’ there 😛😛)… Quite interesting stuff though,I must say,thinking of trying the [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/) and either Instant Honesty/Openness next… One query I have though,has anyone else experienced the aforementioned ‘aggro’ feeling when first applying Ammo ??? kinda makes me wonder what A314 would do 😛😛 ---
**Author:** ![flamingo776](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/flamingo776/32/336_2.png) [@flamingo776](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/flamingo776)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2008, 10:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-experiences-w-ammo-and-instant-shine/8244/2 "2008-01-12T22:59:59Z")
Great report, thanks for sharing! I hope I get some hits like these when my stuff arrive 🙂 I don’t know very much about this (yet 🙂), but I’d venture to suggest that the ammo self-effect is from detecting the [pheromone](https://a314.com/shop/) signature of an -none enhanced male. In other words, you’re getting the effect that other males would notice from you - aggression. Except you’re getting the effects from close up - especially considering that it’s applied so close to your nose. As for A314 - it’s reputed to have great self-effects. I recall someone (renny?) recently mentioning that they put a drop under their nose (in combination with a usually applied mix on the body), just for the self-effect. ---
**Author:** ![queixada](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/97f17d/32.png) [@queixada](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/queixada)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2008, 11:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-experiences-w-ammo-and-instant-shine/8244/3 "2008-01-12T23:42:14Z")
thanks for the down to earth report. i honestly think a lot of posters when reporting their experiences tend to think that anything that goes their way is due to the [pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/) [give yourselves some credit! 😉] or they might blow slight things out of proportion but hey, you never know. ---
**Author:** ![LaIntencion32](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/laintencion32/32/1362_2.png) [@LaIntencion32](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/LaIntencion32)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2008, 2:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-experiences-w-ammo-and-instant-shine/8244/4 "2008-01-13T02:51:37Z")
It happends (blowing things up) …, but on the same token, the advance users already know their limitations and boundaries in and on social skills, and they know the products so well they can immediately catch any “glitches” in the environment that let them decipher what, how and why. You will also see must of us remind people to focus on Oneself and not on the products, they just enhance a situation, depends on the skill we carry can lead to “fantastic adventures” … Great report Primo, very nice. Now that Christmas is over, you can go back and re-visit your steps see if you find any difference … Stay cool be safe. PS: read Mark-In-Dallas report, this guy is an old dog (of pheromones) he knows what his doing, check it out. > [@A night at a new club with no hits: why pheromones don't work without effort](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/phero-fueled-failure/8206): > > Hey folks, I just thought I’d write a little example of how [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/) aren’t one stop cure all magical bullets. Several members have done an excellent job of welcoming new members and pointing out that using pheromones is not going to have the opposite sex falling at your feet, or begging for sex, and that pheromones will only work if you are willing to put some effort in yourself. Well this post is intended to drive that point home. As many of you may know, I have had some great successes wit… ---
**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2008, 12:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-experiences-w-ammo-and-instant-shine/8244/5 "2008-02-04T12:20:21Z")
I just read your report.. it was very good reading! thanks.. ---
**Author:** ![renny](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/renny/32/2104_2.png) [@renny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/renny)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2008, 6:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-experiences-w-ammo-and-instant-shine/8244/6 "2008-02-04T18:47:43Z")
> [@flamingo776](#): > > Great report, thanks for sharing! I hope I get some hits like these when my stuff arrive 🙂 > > As for A314 - it’s reputed to have great self-effects. I recall someone (renny?) recently mentioning that they put a drop under their nose (in combination with a usually applied mix on the body), just for the self-effect. Not everyone gets self effects and consistant use will decrease the likelyhood of self effects. If you like the self effects of something make sure you use it only once or twice a week. Also keep in mind that there is a bit of a lucky charm effect going on. I don’t mean to say that it’s all placebo. What I mean is that if you find a little trick that makes you feel better-rally caps in the dugout- there is nothing wrong with that. Yes, a drop of a314 to my chin and upper lip is my lucky charm. 😃 I didn’t invent it though, several others have posted about doing the same thing. Hey, works for me. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![bkshilo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3da27b/32.png) [@bkshilo](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bkshilo)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2008, 1:01am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-experiences-w-ammo-and-instant-shine/8244/7 "2008-02-19T01:01:28Z")
Great report, thanks for the details.