# First experinces with my introduction package **URL:** \ **Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\ **Created:** [November 3, 2014, 5:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-experinces-with-my-introduction-package/63150 "2014-11-03T17:33:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![DocStray](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@DocStray](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/DocStray)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2014, 5:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-experinces-with-my-introduction-package/63150/1 "2014-11-03T17:33:51Z")
Its been about a month since I recieved my package of phermones, included in it other than whats listed it comes with was P102, which was nice for self use, it gave me a focused almost euphoric feeling when applied 1 spray above lip and one on each sides of my jaw line…So Im not a patient person and am rather compulsive, when I got home one night to find my phermones had arrived I sprayed every single one on and went out 🙂 I felt great alittle aggresive and confident. I get looks from women anyway but my added confidence got me more…I have a girl Ive been seeing for a long while but were not exclusive, we do love eachother though. One night I had her come over and was wearing IH IO [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) IS and of course A314 which is one that I spray on always now with addition of 1 or 2 more depending on what I’m doing. Anyhow next time I’m going to do A314, IO and turn up the heat in addition to whatever I order next. I noticed she was feeling very comfortible like really really comfortible, we were in bed talking, I had picked her up to bring her over and the mones did there thing on the ride home, she all the sudden says she has gas just to let me know, I’m like wtf! Usually she wouldnt say that and if she let out a silent one she would have a really cute embarresed ashamed look and not say anything but nope she warned me this time, so I dont talk about that kinda thing with girls, I had a girlfriend in high school I use to fart on but the relationship got to comfy seeing that side of eachother so now if I’m digging a girl I pretend I dont even fart or anything. So then she proceeds to want me to fart for her and go poop infront of her, I’m thinking oh boy to much IO and IH ratio to other stuff, I didnt realize this till after, so I’m going to keep it edgy with tuth, io and a314 and theres a few putatives I"ve been reading about I want to try…I’m my sales job I noticed my coworkers are alot closer to me, im a likible guy but alot closer it seems and I have alot moretrust honesty and openess from my customers, I sell cars btw. At work I use IO IH and A314… I would appreciate any feed back on ways to test which mones are best for me in which doses, what I might wear to make my girl chase me alittle more and feel like I could be the one who got away but not to insecure and really turn her on, we get pretty kinky but I want her to do whatevers lurking in the dark corners of her mind to me in bed. Also its easy for me to read the forum but I have dyslexia and need to know where to go to right about different mones. Thankyou ~DocStray ---
**Author:** ![Miss\_Dragon](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/miss_dragon/32/866_2.png) [@Miss\_Dragon](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Miss_Dragon)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2014, 6:11am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-experinces-with-my-introduction-package/63150/2 "2014-11-04T06:11:26Z")
You definitely overdid it with the IO around your lady. Try focusing on ammo and a314 around her, but leave IO completely out of the picture. If you want her to get crazy with you, you need to look into p83. ---
**Author:** ![DocStray](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@DocStray](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/DocStray)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2014, 5:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-experinces-with-my-introduction-package/63150/3 "2014-11-04T17:35:53Z")
> [@Miss\_Dragon](#): > > You definitely overdid it with the IO around your lady. Try focusing on ammo and a314 around her, but leave IO completely out of the picture. If you want her to get crazy with you, you need to look into p83. Hi Miss Dragon thankyou very much I’m ordering p83 right now… ---
**Author:** ![DocStray](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@DocStray](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/DocStray)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2014, 5:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-experinces-with-my-introduction-package/63150/4 "2014-11-04T17:39:08Z")
> [@Miss\_Dragon](#): > > You definitely overdid it with the IO around your lady. Try focusing on ammo and a314 around her, but leave IO completely out of the picture. If you want her to get crazy with you, you need to look into p83. Oh I do have a question, can I effectively wear ammo,a314 and p83 together? ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2014, 6:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-experinces-with-my-introduction-package/63150/5 "2014-11-04T18:42:11Z")
Ammo/A314/P83 is an excellent combo. I’d suggest you use less A314 alongside Ammo compared to the amounts you have been using up to now. TBH, I think you have been drowning the A314 with IO. These are two I avoid using together in mixes because of the way IO weakens A314 in all ways - If you read **right down** the store page, you will see that IO is indeed the product AD advises to tone-down A314. IME if you feel the need to use them together, Less A314 is the better way to go. At 31, a mature “adult” alternative to IO is IH/IS - Which has al the right conversation properties with a heap of bonding/sharing as well - and no dimunition of A314’s status. TUTH is also very usable as the IH/IS will help balance the mix nicely. A314/TUTH is a good mature (ie 30+) status/sexual - maybe not for an evening at home but when you go-out, it will add status and sexual impact - in ways that may be appreciated later. Here, more A314 and less TUTH is usually the way to go - TUTH essentially becomes a steering component to turn A314 sexual. P83 will be a useful secondary to all of these and I’ll suggest you get it in the 10-15mcg concentration, so you can cover a wide dose range of approx 20-80mcg with a relatively few sprays. IME you usually need less P83 with social-heavy mixes but more with overt sexual and status/sexual. Also get yourself some TAC - Again, this is a useful secondary that helps a lot when it comes to letting-go in bed. About 20mcg on many mixes increases the “go-for-it” factor substantially. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Kelsey](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/kelsey/32/8468_2.png) [@Kelsey](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kelsey)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2014, 6:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-experinces-with-my-introduction-package/63150/6 "2014-11-04T18:57:28Z")
\*\*Welcome to our community Doc! We’re super happy to have you join us. Thanks for stopping by and sharing. I hope to see more of you around here in the next few weeks! This is a quick note to let you know I’ve issued your gift certificate. It’s burning a hole in your email box as you read this! Have fun!" _~_~_~_~_~_\*\* ---
**Author:** ![DocStray](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@DocStray](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/DocStray)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2014, 7:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-experinces-with-my-introduction-package/63150/7 "2014-11-04T19:10:48Z")
> [@mobocaster](#): > > Ammo/A314/P83 is an excellent combo. > > I’d suggest you use less A314 alongside Ammo compared to the amounts you have been using up to now. > > TBH, I think you have been drowning the A314 with IO. These are two I avoid using together in mixes because of the way IO weakens A314 in all ways - If you read **right down** the store page, you will see that IO is indeed the product AD advises to tone-down A314. IME if you feel the need to use them together, Less A314 is the better way to go. > > At 31, a mature “adult” alternative to IO is IH/IS - Which has al the right conversation properties with a heap of bonding/sharing as well - and no dimunition of A314’s status. > > TUTH is also very usable as the IH/IS will help balance the mix nicely. > > A314/TUTH is a good mature (ie 30+) status/sexual - maybe not for an evening at home but when you go-out, it will add status and sexual impact - in ways that may be appreciated later. Here, more A314 and less TUTH is usually the way to go - TUTH essentially becomes a steering component to turn A314 sexual. > > P83 will be a useful secondary to all of these and I’ll suggest you get it in the 10-15mcg concentration, so you can cover a wide dose range of approx 20-80mcg with a relatively few sprays. IME you usually need less P83 with social-heavy mixes but more with overt sexual and status/sexual. > > Also get yourself some TAC - Again, this is a useful secondary that helps a lot when it comes to letting-go in bed. About 20mcg on many mixes increases the “go-for-it” factor substantially. 😉 Thanks alot for the info 🙂 Its very helpful. What would tuth, p83, ih do? Also what are the differences with IH and IS? Thanks again ---
**Author:** ![DocStray](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@DocStray](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/DocStray)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2014, 7:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-experinces-with-my-introduction-package/63150/8 "2014-11-04T19:12:44Z")
> [@kelsey](#): > > \*\*Welcome to our community Doc! > > We’re super happy to have you join us. Thanks for stopping by and sharing. I hope to see more of you around here in the next few weeks! > > This is a quick note to let you know I’ve issued your gift certificate. It’s burning a hole in your email box as you read this! > > Have fun!" > > _~_~_~_~_~_\*\* Thankyou very much, I already used the gift certificate you sent me when I got on here for the first time actually today 🙂 I wont take advantage and use a second one. Thankyou DocStray ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2014, 11:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-experinces-with-my-introduction-package/63150/9 "2014-11-04T23:45:05Z")
> [@DocStray](#): > > Thanks alot for the info 🙂 Its very helpful. What would tuth, p83, ih do? Also what are the differences with IH and IS? Thanks again That’s a very valid sexual/physical mix, yes. [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/) helps with physical contact/engagement/closeness no-end IS is a more happy/feelgood product that has little by way of moderating properties whilst IH is mainly betanol and encourages a trusting, close, sharing, bonding feel - however the synergy between IS and IH is remarkable and its well worth pairing them - not least because it helps avoid the “too-deep” effects of IH - which can maybe be its only issues. ---
**Author:** ![DocStray](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@DocStray](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/DocStray)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2014, 2:39am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-experinces-with-my-introduction-package/63150/10 "2014-11-06T02:39:26Z")
> [@mobocaster](#): > > That’s a very valid sexual/physical mix, yes. P83 helps with physical contact/engagement/closeness no-end > > IS is a more happy/feelgood product that has little by way of moderating properties whilst IH is mainly betanol and encourages a trusting, close, sharing, bonding feel - however the synergy between IS and IH is remarkable and its well worth pairing them - not least because it helps avoid the “too-deep” effects of IH - which can maybe be its only issues. I just received p83 in the mail to go with the rest, they threw in molecule c…Do you know what it does I cannot find anything? Thankyou your super helpful..🙂 ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2014, 10:31am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-experinces-with-my-introduction-package/63150/11 "2014-11-06T10:31:36Z")
[Molecule C](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/molecule-c/) is TAC - Plenty of threads. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![DocStray](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@DocStray](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/DocStray)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2014, 12:10am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-experinces-with-my-introduction-package/63150/12 "2014-11-08T00:10:29Z")
🙂🙂🙂 Sweet…Thankyou