# First few days... **URL:** \ **Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\ **Created:** [July 27, 2013, 5:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-few-days/59658 "2013-07-27T17:13:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 3\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![unquietminds](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/b38774/32.png) [@unquietminds](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/unquietminds)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2013, 5:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-few-days/59658/1 "2013-07-27T17:13:55Z")
Here goes: So I ordered a few things on a whim - I’d been curious to try pheromones ever since I bought a supremely stinky [pheromone cologne](https://a314.com/shop/) from some sex shop in Toronto. And that’s a story on its own, but the gist is: It was truly awful-smelling. So much so that I would bring the little lighter-sized spray bottle around to have women smell it. That usually went like this: “Hey, smell this” _Smells, wrinkles up face_ “EEEEEEW.” … “Wait, let me smell it again… EEEEW” … “One more time.” But it was too terrible to wear. So I never, ever used it on me. So this time around, I ordered: 1 Summer Ammo to go 1 1x IS 1 1x IO 1 1x IH 1 1x IG I also received a free P74, which is one I had on my list for later if any of these worked. But more about my experiences later. In any case, I’m in my late 30s, but look like I’m in my early 20s. I’m like Harrison Ford before his age really caught up to him or something. So this means I generally date people my age or younger, and by younger I mean my last serious relationship was with a girl in her early 20s (although I was a couple years younger at the time.) An aside: I can say I’ve dated a stripper, but she didn’t start dancing until after I took her to her first strip club right after we started dancing. Does it count if it’s your fault she dances? I like smart women with a “healthy” does of crazy (and I mean healthy, not deep end) and a sense of excitement about their lives. I date yoga teachers, actresses, bartenders, dancers, doctors, writers, painters, etc. But - especially the part about not having given up and started settling for their lives - usually means I’m more attracted to women in their mid-20s. And thankfully, my youthful appearance (with a bit of professorial demeanor) means those are the women most often attracted to me. I’m more married to the qualities above than their ages, though. But I figure I just want to enhance what already works. Seemed like the stuff I bought would be a decent testbed before I dive in deeper. So, wore 2x IG on my forearms, 1x IS on my hair the first day. Went to work. Main thing I noticed: girl co-worker was much more chatty. Seemed to light up when we talked, and was very passionate and engaged. Also noticed I was very alpha, take-charge, and focused the whole day. 2nd day: Ammo 2x chest (meant that to be 1 spray, but, oops.) 1x IS. At work, same co-worker slightly less chatty, but tended to stand VERY CLOSE when we were talking in a group. Like invading personal space close. Later on, met up with a friend at a bar, and it’d been over 6 hours so I applied more Ammo (1x under chin, and 2 to the chest for 3x, and 2x IO to the forearms). I know you’re supposed to try them individually, but I was excited, so shoot me. Interesting effect: felt like I was experiencing what you all call ‘ghosting’, but women sitting nearby me invariably leaned toward me even if they were facing the other way and talking to other people. No interactions, but just this odd sense that women were feeling physical effects incongruent with their conscious thought process (i.e., girl is animatedly talking to this guy she came in with, but just about leaning back on me.) So… I’m going to blame the Ammo for that effect, since I wore the IS both days. Day 3: Wore IG/IS combo again, added one more spray of IG. Again - felt fairly alpha, similar level of chatty interaction. Other things going on at work, so I didn’t really pay much attention. Day 4: 3x IG (1x each forearm, 1x sprayed onto finger and dabbed under earlobe, and 2x IS to hair, and 1x P74 to neck just for shits and giggles) Immediately told by the girl checking me out at the liquor store that I looked much younger than my ID says. Then, waiting for some grilled corn on the cob outside of an organic grocery store, an early-30s blonde and her “rich lady” dog park walk up next to me, “invade personal space” distance despite the fact that we were standing on an empty sidewalk, and starts to ask me about the food and what I was getting and all. She was good-looking, quite fit and all, but I wasn’t attracted so I just made small talk and petted her puppy. Personal space thing felt like when I wore the Ammo, so maybe the shine has something to do with it. Overall I like the IG/IS effect. I’m going to try IG on its own next week. Seems like I might need to work with the Ammo a little more to see what’s not enough and what’s too much. I think that I’m OD’ing VERY easily on Ammo - what would that mean? (Am I still producing way too many -nones? Because with my sex drive, I could have told you that…) Things I’m interested in trying out: CTTM replacement mix P83 P79 TUTH A314 … whatever else people suggest might work nicely. So… for a late 30s guy attracting smart, slightly weird, fit and adventurous 20-somethings (and who has pretty good luck with that w/o the pheros)… what suggestions? ---
**Author:** ![monesmadedoit](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/monesmadedoit/32/325_2.png) [@monesmadedoit](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/monesmadedoit)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2013, 5:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-few-days/59658/2 "2013-07-27T17:49:26Z")
Hello Unquiet! Since AMMO is really the one you’re having issues with, let me help you with that. -eNone can linger up to 24 hours. I have used pure androstenone ExperiMone from Androtics. Probably the purist and rawest stuff used by [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) companies. You have 2.5 mcg of this in every spray of AMMO. Even with buffers, 10 micros is too much for many women. After six hours, lingering amounts of it will be on your skin. So what you wound up with is way more than just 5 micros in two sprays. You have None build up. You would have to shower thoroughly to remove the residual before adding more sprays. People avoiding you is directly None OD. 5 mcg of None is really plenty unless your over 40 (really I’d say over 50, but opinions differ). Read the store description for IJ. That is what 10 m c g of None is! > [@Can you OD on AMMUNITION?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-you-od-on-ammunition/52644): > > Can you OD on AMMUNITION? How many sprays should be used? ---
**Author:** ![Kelsey](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/kelsey/32/8468_2.png) [@Kelsey](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kelsey)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2013, 1:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-few-days/59658/3 "2013-08-01T13:45:12Z")
Welcome Uniquetminds, This is a super informal and not so tailored response if you will. I would luuuuuuuv to spend more time assisting you especially since you are a newbie. We are short staffed and these gift certificates are done manually. It takes a great deal and I am back logged. I am hoping that when I catch up on my work, I can start answering these intro threads the way I use to In fact, I am hoping that soon, someone more experienced than me can come in so I get to do what I am great at, customer service. Thank you for giving [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/) a chance. Your gc was issued!