# First Mixes - NPA and A-1

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-mixes-npa-and-a-1/40973>\
**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [August 21, 2010, 5:35am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-mixes-npa-and-a-1/40973 "2010-08-21T05:35:34Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 11\
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**Author:** ![thegentleman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/thegentleman/32/1770_2.png) [@thegentleman](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/thegentleman)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2010, 5:35am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-mixes-npa-and-a-1/40973/1 "2010-08-21T05:35:34Z")

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Not together. 😉  
After posting, I realised this isn’t really a “mix,” per se…

Basic info: 43, caucasian, overweight, personality roughly 70% alpha - 30% beta.

Please correct my numbers if I’m wrong.  
Atomizer #1  
Following the A-1 guide togo #'s, using the 3 ML Sephora Atomizer. I went with 1ml A-1 + 2ml of PA (my own cologne) = 50mcgs?

Atomizer #2  
NPA I’m starting with a 1:2 ratio, and then I will adjust according to testing.  
1 NPA drop : 2 cologne sprays into Sephora Atomizer.

I could probably go with something like a 3:4 ratio because of my weight and age, but will wait until after testing to see what kind of results I get.

Thanks in advance for any suggestions, or corrections.

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**Author:** ![crashbandicoot](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/crashbandicoot/32/2321_2.png) [@crashbandicoot](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/crashbandicoot)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2010, 6:49am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-mixes-npa-and-a-1/40973/2 "2010-08-21T06:49:51Z")

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I’ve worn these two for a long time. Covering is tough. A1 sort of buffers the NPA but I feel this combo still lacks something. I might consider adding alot of nols. Still this combo has the tendency to ghost due to the none. Best hits came after 5 hours of applying, even better the next day. Very mysterious combo, Npa adds sex appeal while the A1 adds a sense of closeness but the A1 made me very introverted and kind of blue. I usually get A1 from L-S and mix.  
I have found that a dab of npa with the dropper still on on the chin and 1-2 drops of A1 spread on neck covered with a few sprays of something strong like Kouros has yielded good results. Im not using this combo anymore due to the inconsistency of Npa on me personally and am experimenting with plain alpha nols for a while which I have never worn alone.  
Good luck to you.

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**Author:** ![thegentleman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/thegentleman/32/1770_2.png) [@thegentleman](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/thegentleman)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2010, 7:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-mixes-npa-and-a-1/40973/3 "2010-08-21T07:00:36Z")

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Actually, this is not a combo mix. I hoped to have made that clear when I said “not together.”

What I have done is created two different sephora atmoizers.  
1 with NPA, the other with A-1.

My plan for usage is to add the A-1 in my mix with A314 and IH as I try to reconnect and repair a damaged relationship.

The NPA is for amping things up later, I’m talking about taking this slow with her. Long story almost 2 year relationship on the rocks, we’re barely speaking.

However, I am moving forward with my life and if I meet other women with the NPA on, then its on like Donkey Kong.

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**Author:** ![funtimes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/f08c70/32.png) [@funtimes](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/funtimes)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2010, 7:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-mixes-npa-and-a-1/40973/4 "2010-08-21T07:07:04Z")

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ok what is a-1? and what is npa? i am so out of the loop. by the way why do you want her back?

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**Author:** ![crashbandicoot](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/crashbandicoot/32/2321_2.png) [@crashbandicoot](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/crashbandicoot)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2010, 7:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-mixes-npa-and-a-1/40973/5 "2010-08-21T07:09:27Z")

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a1 is androstadienone . and Npa is(new [pheromone](https://a314.com/) additive) a none from another place.

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**Author:** ![thegentleman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/thegentleman/32/1770_2.png) [@thegentleman](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/thegentleman)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2010, 7:34am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-mixes-npa-and-a-1/40973/6 "2010-08-21T07:34:27Z")

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> [@funtimes](#):
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> ok what is a-1? and what is npa? i am so out of the loop. by the way why do you want her back?

> [@I have a relationship question for the ladies](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-have-a-relationship-question-for-the-ladies/40854):
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> Me and my girl have had some rocky times in the past, but usually we make up rather quickly. About 3-4 weeks ago, we had another pretty good falling out. She says she still loves me, but doesn’t know if she can forgive me, and she does not trust me. During our argument, it got ugly and we both said a few rather hurtful things to each other. I apologized which she accepted, but as she said she doesn’t know if she forgives me. She hasn’t apologized, but I have already told her that I know she…

I love her, dearly. It was a stupid disagreement, I should have handled it better regardless of what occured.  
The issue became more focused on my behavior in how the issue was handled rather than the issue itself.

I see a light at the end of the tunnel, I will be updating soon. We did start talking again. It’s all kind of shallow surface issues, but it’s a start. I know her far too well, and she knows me. She doesn’t really want this to be over, she just wants me to be stronger, and I can be. It’s just not happening as fast as she’d like, but I’m only human.

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**Author:** ![smartypants](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e8c25b/32.png) [@smartypants](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/smartypants)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2010, 8:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-mixes-npa-and-a-1/40973/7 "2010-08-21T08:09:26Z")

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My NPA arrived within the past couple of days, but I haven’t tried it, yet. I’m hoping for some obvious reactions, for better or worse. 🆒 It will be interesting to see your results, too.

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My journal: A Kick in the Pants

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**Author:** ![K-Train](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/k-train/32/2253_2.png) [@K-Train](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/K-Train)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2010, 2:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-mixes-npa-and-a-1/40973/8 "2010-08-21T14:42:42Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Following the A-1 guide togo #'s, using the 3 ML Sephora Atomizer. I went with 1ml A-1 + 2ml of PA (my own cologne) = 50mcgs?

Your calculations are a little off I’m afraid. When I wrote the A1 dilution ratios, I based them off of the to-gos sold here at Androtics, not the Sephora Atomizers.😉

Judging from what I’m reading, there’s a good chance you’ll be getting _less_ than what you’re currently getting because the to-gos here at androtics hold 5ml versus the 3ml in the Sephora Atomizer.

You’re still going to be able to use your Atomizer, but just keep in mind that you’re dosage isn’t exact. If you want to follow my guide more closely, I advise you grabbing a few to-go bottles (they’re cheap 🙂) and then whip up another more precise batch if you want to.

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**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2010, 4:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-mixes-npa-and-a-1/40973/9 "2010-08-21T16:53:34Z")

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> [@thegentleman](#):
>
> Not together. 😉  
> After posting, I realised this isn’t really a “mix,” per se…
> 
> Basic info: 43, caucasian, overweight, personality roughly 70% alpha - 30% beta.
> 
> Please correct my numbers if I’m wrong.  
> Atomizer #1  
> Following the A-1 guide togo #'s, using the 3 ML Sephora Atomizer. I went with 1ml A-1 + 2ml of PA (my own cologne) = 50mcgs?
> 
> Atomizer #2  
> NPA I’m starting with a 1:2 ratio, and then I will adjust according to testing.  
> 1 NPA drop : 2 cologne sprays into Sephora Atomizer.
> 
> I could probably go with something like a 3:4 ratio because of my weight and age, but will wait until after testing to see what kind of results I get.
> 
> Thanks in advance for any suggestions, or corrections.

K-Train makes a good point, since it’s 3ML’s in a sephora atomizer I would fill it with 3ML and spray out everything and see what you’re getting.

Lets say it’s 40 for a 5ML (In my tests its around 42) and sephora sprays out a 3ML in 40 sprays. You have a significant amount of less [pheromones](https://a314.com/) that are being delivered per spray if you use K-Train’s guide on A-1 based on AD’s to-go bottles.

Test it out and post back, I can try and do the math and someone proof it out here.

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**Author:** ![JAYCEE1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b4bc9f/32.png) [@JAYCEE1](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/JAYCEE1)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2010, 5:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-mixes-npa-and-a-1/40973/10 "2010-08-21T17:38:20Z")

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One of my favorite combos is SOE + TE. I even like the sandlewood version of The Edge, which most people hate.

TE is just a diluted version of NPA and harder to OD on.

If you need to buffer NPA, you really can’t go wrong with SOE.

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**Author:** ![thegentleman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/thegentleman/32/1770_2.png) [@thegentleman](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/thegentleman)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2010, 5:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-mixes-npa-and-a-1/40973/11 "2010-08-21T17:50:24Z")

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> [@P51Mustang](#):
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> K-Train makes a good point, since it’s 3ML’s in a sephora atomizer I would fill it with 3ML and spray out everything and see what you’re getting.
> 
> Lets say it’s 40 for a 5ML (In my tests its around 42) and sephora sprays out a 3ML in 40 sprays. You have a significant amount of less pheromones that are being delivered per spray if you use K-Train’s guide on A-1 based on AD’s to-go bottles.
> 
> Test it out and post back, I can try and do the math and someone proof it out here.

I’ll definitely get on that. Thx!
