# First order arrived: Instant Openness smells like pee to me, can I cover it? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [May 16, 2007, 2:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-order-arrived-instant-openness-smells-like-pee-to-me-can-i-cover-it/3698 "2007-05-16T14:34:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![alessio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@alessio](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/alessio)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2007, 2:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-order-arrived-instant-openness-smells-like-pee-to-me-can-i-cover-it/3698/1 "2007-05-16T14:34:34Z")
Ok. Thanks to [Androtics Direct](https://a314.com/) yesterday my first order arrived. I bought [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/), [Turn Up the Heat](https://a314.com/product/turn-up-the-heat-tuth/) and Instant Openess. I have to say i really really really REALLY liked the tester that came with my package (ammonition and [instant shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/)). I have a little bit of question to do to all of you and I think we all can learn much from this post. I tried [turn up the heat](https://a314.com/product/turn-up-the-heat-tuth/) and instant openess. I work in close contact with women, so I tried to wear 1 spray of instant openess on the top of each wrist, but I couldn’ t see the effect… but the main problem is that smells like pee to me (my sister smelled it and said it smelled like parfum…), so I am thinking about covering it with my parfum, but I don’ t know if it can cover the effects too. Anyone can help me with this? 🙄 My second main problem is WHERE apply it. I stayed a little bit with my girl this morning and I was wearing [Turn Up the Heat](https://a314.com/product/turn-up-the-heat-tuth/). The heat turned up, but I think in the same way it always turn up. I was wearing 2 sprays on my chest and I put on a shirt. 😉 So i thought a little ranking based on the position to where apply [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/) based on the effects on the others and effects to myself. In order: chest, hair, wrists, arms, back of neck, back of ears, neck and face. Am I right? 😕 I have some more question to ask, but let’ s begin clarifying these points first. Thank to all this wonderful community. 🙂 P. S.: Please forgive my English! ---
**Author:** ![alessio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@alessio](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/alessio)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2007, 1:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-order-arrived-instant-openness-smells-like-pee-to-me-can-i-cover-it/3698/2 "2007-05-17T13:33:55Z")
Today I tried 3 sprays of instant openess and I had some positive results. Moreover I am getting used of the smell of mones, and I have a more positive attitude to them. This afternoon I am going to exit with an old friend of mine, I will test with her effectiveness of instant openess + instant female magic + turn up the heat. I will report you soon! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2007, 1:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-order-arrived-instant-openness-smells-like-pee-to-me-can-i-cover-it/3698/3 "2007-05-19T13:33:55Z")
I think covering turn up the heat with cologne could affect its diffusion but still.. I would check it out, probably it will still work! ---
**Author:** ![alessio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@alessio](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/alessio)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2007, 4:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-order-arrived-instant-openness-smells-like-pee-to-me-can-i-cover-it/3698/4 "2007-05-21T16:01:05Z")
Ok. Yesterday I tried 3 sprays of regular strenght tuth. Awesome! I am getting used of the smell of [pheromone products](https://a314.com/shop/) and now i fell pretty comfortable with them. Getting lots of ioi!!! I would like to know the main pheromones used in: instant shine, ammo and instant female magic. Thank you. ---
**Author:** ![Jasmin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jasmin/32/287_2.png) [@Jasmin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jasmin)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2007, 4:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-order-arrived-instant-openness-smells-like-pee-to-me-can-i-cover-it/3698/5 "2007-05-21T16:12:33Z")
All are spiked with a phero blend to enhance effects, but I’ll list the main notes: [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/): Primarily TAA Ammo: Androsterone/none/nol IFM: Androstadienone ---
**Author:** ![nbully79](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c68b51/32.png) [@nbully79](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/nbully79)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2007, 4:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-order-arrived-instant-openness-smells-like-pee-to-me-can-i-cover-it/3698/6 "2007-05-21T16:27:16Z")
> [@Jasmin](#): > > All are spiked with a phero blend to enhance effects, but I’ll list the main notes: > > Instant Shine: Primarily TAA > Ammo: Androsterone/none/Androstenol > Instant Female Magic: Androstadienone Jas, while you are here, what is the difference between [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) 1.0 and 1.5? I am surprised you wouldn’t list TAA as one of the primary ingredients of Ammo. ---
**Author:** ![Jasmin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jasmin/32/287_2.png) [@Jasmin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jasmin)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2007, 4:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-order-arrived-instant-openness-smells-like-pee-to-me-can-i-cover-it/3698/7 "2007-05-21T16:32:00Z")
> [@nbully79](#): > > Jas, while you are here, what is the difference between Ammo 1.0 and 1.5? I am surprised you wouldn’t list TAA as one of the primary ingredients of Ammo. Haha, bully my dear, that is because the shipping version of Ammo is 1.0, which contains mostly those three mentioned molecules. Ammo v1.5 is a version that contains some TAA. You can also try Ammo v1.1 - v1.4, which all have different varying ratios between those 4 molecules. If anyone is interested in them, I can make sure they’re back in the cart. These haven’t been in vogue since before we even had to go’s available on the site, so maybe some newbies might like to try different flavors of Ammo. Off the top of my head,_I_ don’t even know the differences between them, ratio/[pheromone](https://a314.com/shop/)-wise. So don’t ask! 😉 If I were to resurrect the Ammo experiment, it would be in the spirit of trying them out like an MX 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![nbully79](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c68b51/32.png) [@nbully79](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/nbully79)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2007, 7:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-order-arrived-instant-openness-smells-like-pee-to-me-can-i-cover-it/3698/8 "2007-05-21T19:07:05Z")
> [@Jasmin](#): > > Ammo v1.5 is a version that contains some TAA. I guess I was wrong all along. I thought Ammo 1.0 was -nol, none and TAA and Ammo 1.5 was with added -rone. I think I got that info from one of Michael’s post. I have been spreading that info to so many newbies I feel guilty about it. I apologize to anyone who was misinformed!🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2007, 8:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-order-arrived-instant-openness-smells-like-pee-to-me-can-i-cover-it/3698/9 "2007-05-21T20:11:45Z")
> [@Jasmin](#): > > Ammo v1.5 is a version that contains some TAA. In fact I only add instant shine as a rule to v1.0, except for my rock star mix where I added shine anyway… > [@nbully79](#): > > I guess I was wrong all along. I thought Ammo 1.0 was -Androstenol, none and TAA and Ammo 1.5 was with added -Androsterone. I think I got that info from one of Michael’s post. > I have been spreading that info to so many newbies I feel guilty about it. I apologize to anyone who was misinformed!🙂 I think you got it from this quote: > [@MHarris](#): > > v1.5 does indeed more Alpha Androstenol than 1.0 In fact Jasmin had mentioned the shiney aspect of v1.5! here’s the quote: > [@Jasmin](#): > > v1.5 being more “Shiney” and v1.0 being more sexy Lor mentioned it too! > [@Lor](#): > > now, if the 1.0 has 'Androsterone where 1.5 doesnt (i heard that somewhere 😕 ) then i would definately have to get both. 'Androsterone is not to be underestimated,lol. > a guy wearing 'Androsterone is pretty much the boss of me. > id like to say though that the 1.5 _is_ shiny, i have always maintained the anti-depressant feeling that goes with it, but its still _way_ sexier than just [instant shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) alone . And Lor was wrong too as both have the -rone… but in different doses… ---
**Author:** ![capone](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/capone/32/587_2.png) [@capone](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/capone)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2007, 4:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-order-arrived-instant-openness-smells-like-pee-to-me-can-i-cover-it/3698/10 "2007-05-22T04:57:06Z")
Wow, i was nearly sure 1.0 had TAA too… nbully, dyou remember we were discussing this a few days ago? it is good to know, lets see then if my Shine arrives home and I can combine with Ammo 1.0 😉